airstream said:great route. best since 2006
And we can always count on airstream to say something different. Airstream is hipster
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airstream said:great route. best since 2006
no, i'm just a realist and prefer to be content with it rather than to be happy because of bloody hard stages in order to wonder how stage profiles don't match expectations in may.LaFlorecita said:And we can always count on airstream to say something different. Airstream is hipster
So you think this route is better than 2010?airstream said:no, i'm just a realist and prefer to be content with it rather than to be happy because of bloody hard stages in order to wonder how stage profiles don't match expectations in may.
SafeBet said:I'm surprised this thread hasn't been invaded yet by the "racers-make-the-race" mafia.
airstream said:no, i'm just a realist and prefer to be content with it rather than to be happy because of bloody hard stages in order to wonder how stage profiles don't match expectations in may.
mountain part is weaker certainly, but there's a decent flat tt which potentially widens the list of possible contenders. everyone was sated with the climbs this year. it's high time to change something that rcs did.Netserk said:So you think this route is better than 2010?
thats strange. i always understand you despite on having far less knowledgeLaFlorecita said:And once again I have no idea what you're saying. Oh well.
DominicDecoco said:Why would a pure sprinter participate in this..?
Descender said:I feel like either you don't pay attention to what people tell you or you don't want to pay attention.
Eshnar exposed it very well (for the gazillionth time). It's not (only) about attacking on the descent, it's about variety and balance. A complete rider must be able to climb, to ride on the flat and to descend. And that tour you mentioned succeeded in being a balanced route, in that it exposed the descending weaknesses of certain riders.
You've already made up your mind that descents mean nothing, and you just won't budge no matter how hard reality slaps you in the face.
The Vuelta 2006 was won on a mountain stage finishing after a descent (Granada, Valverde-Vinokourov-Kasheshkin, look it up). In the Giro 2010 we had one of the most exciting stages in the Mortirolo-Aprica day, with the eventual winner attacking and distancing the leader, then almost ruining it all in the descent. That same year, Nibali won the stage and gain time after attacking on a descent. TdF, Gap and Pinerolo stages last year... etcetera, etcetera.
And that's despite the fact that there are so few mountain stages finishing after a descent (or after a descent+easy climb, a là Mortirolo+Aprica or Finestre+Sestriere).
the asian said:To carry water bottles.
airstream said:in point of fact, we don't tell each other anything new. perhaps, we are just looking into different things. you are all for exciting racing in any its embodiment and dramaturgy. i'm all for gc grand battles. to me, relatively speaking, to watch who wins from the break garzelli or nieve is interesting in a minimal way. i wasn't saying descents mean nothing. imo, one more proper mtf is preferable instead of a descent stage.
DominicDecoco said:The chances of winning anything are definitely limited to say the least.
Hugo Koblet said:I'm a bit torn. I look forward to the Pescara stage, the Firenze stage and stage 20. That's about it.
Not very many stages that are really interesting but on the other hand there aren't many that look truly dull.
Descender said:You have tons of MTFs in every GT. Why on earth would you want yet another MTF instead of one (one!) descent finish?