Giro 2014 Field Speculation

[Ryo Hazuki]

Yeah, good one. Horner and Porte are better than Purito.

Quintana and Purito are the two topfavorites. Porte is the dark horse, in terms of leading a team in a GT. Horner is a interesting outsider.

horner won't be doing the giro. he already said multiple times he wil only do the vuelta

 

[MatParker117]

Is it safe to assume Deignan, Puccio & Cataldo will be riding the Giro?

 

[Arredondo]

horner won't be doing the giro. he already said multiple times he wil only do the vuelta

http://velonews.competitor.com/2014/01/news/horner-linked-to-lampre-deal_313765

Here he says something different.

 

[gospina]

I for one am immensely put off by the inflamed nationalism most Colombian riders display, and I don't think that time when people from an entirely different team went out of their way to help Betancur was anything but a disgrace.

This is more common than you think. Horner himself when riding for Trek helped other americans in races after his job was done. He stated later that he wanted to help the US get more points for the worlds.

Sanchez has helped out Contador as well many times and we have seen Valverde help out Purito & Contador in races. Not so much last year, but in prior years.

We also have seen Australians state that they love seeing each other in races and look out for one another.

Colombians are a bit over the top now, but most of it is because they weren't around in the World Tour for many years. 5 years ago, Only Soler and Uran were getting slim WT points. Every now and then Duque and Ardila would see each other in races. Now, there is just so many, 95% of them under 26, that they all kind of grew up together and know each other as friends.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

in general latin americans help each other. famously when edwin avila became world champion(he was the strongets still) points race it was luis sepulveda from chile who helped him in the final and he later admitted to rather having a fellow south american become world champion

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

doing somre predeicison for my eurotour I came up with this probable movistar team. I could post others too

nairo quintana
igor anton
jonathan castroviejo
john gadret
eros capecchi
adriano malori
giovanni visconti
andrey amador
sylvester szmyd

this would be absolute killer team, also very strong for ttt, is there one?

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

vs sky:

richie porte
dario cataldo
danny pate
joshua edmondson
philip deignan
xabier zandio
bernhard eisel?
salvato puccio
????

 

[Arredondo]

doing somre predeicison for my eurotour I came up with this probable movistar team. I could post others too

nairo quintana
igor anton
jonathan castroviejo
john gadret
eros capecchi
adriano malori
giovanni visconti
andrey amador
sylvester szmyd

this would be absolute killer team, also very strong for ttt, is there one?

Yes, first day in Belfast (21.7 km)

 

[MatParker117]

vs sky:

richie porte
dario cataldo
danny pate
joshua edmondson
philip deignan
xabier zandio
bernhard eisel?
salvato puccio
????

Pete Kennaugh?

 

[jens_attacks]

sky team really seems poor . is that it? richie will be in trouble big time if that's it

 

[Dazed and Confused]

sky team really seems poor . is that it? richie will be in trouble big time if that's it

yea, looks like Sky is selling him short.

Needs Vasil and Henao. Add Knees for flats.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Pete Kennaugh?

I'm sure he will do the tour, maybe kiriyenka, but I think they may want him for tour

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

yea, looks like Sky is selling him short.

Needs Vasil and Henao. Add Knees for flats.

henao is 100% tour, knees probably too

 

[The Hitch]

sky team really seems poor . is that it? richie will be in trouble big time if that's it

like porte needs a team. Like Movistar won't just train him any stage his helpers aren't up to the task.

 

[slosada]

I for one am immensely put off by the inflamed nationalism most Colombian riders display, and I don't think that time when people from an entirely different team went out of their way to help Betancur was anything but a disgrace.

Although I agree nationalism doesn't have a place in Professional sports, you have to consider if they were also friends, and the particular circumstances: Marentes was losing contact with the group (not that he waited for him) and Betancur was coming back (and IIRC, Saxo started pulling right after the flat which is not right either).

Betancur is at the back again asking for his team car assistence. Time is running out and he knows while changes his bike. In front Saxo starts pulling to drop him and defend Majka's jersey. Not very sporty, let me say.

Now, regarding the Colombian Armada (as per the Spanish Armada who tried and failed at TdF), discard any Colombians riding for a team with GC ambitions, I don't see any Lampre, Trek or Garmin leaving their leaders to support a fellow compatriot. It's only what Uran or Quintana might agree upon during mountain stages, and the limited support Colombia can provide without risking their own chances of stage results.

 

[gospina]

henao is 100% tour, knees probably too

We were all wondering how Sky will be ever taken down. All it takes is time.
#1 Wiggins kind of gives up on road
#2 Froome becomes the best rider in the world, focuses on Tour.
#3 Uran leaves to another team
#4a Porte now becomes leader for Giro
#4b Henao was leader at Vuelta, may continue to be leader.

You had 2 that were favorites at every Grand Tour with 3 or 4 options as super domestiques.
Now you have the best rider in Froome, but only 1 choice as super domestique.

 

[Gloin22]

Well excatly. As Wiggins and ( EBH might ) leave the team next year that is MASSIVE chunk of budget out of the way. Those two can give way for two massive transfers for Sky.

 

[The Hitch]

Well excatly. As Wiggins and ( EBH might ) leave the team next year that is MASSIVE chunk of budget out of the way. Those two can give way for two massive transfers for Sky.

So they can spend it all on JTL

 

[Butterhead]

that would be great for team spirit wouldn't it? you guys have been really good so far this year!... give me your blood cause you are probably cheating...
teams can't function without trust between riders and management.

Vino, if its to good to be true....
Point is, if anyone knows the riders true potential its the team and its trainers and medical staff.
If the team is run like its supposed to, the medical staff would know about it.

Trust is not an option if suspicious performances and results overmatch the real potential. Teams needs to keep a critical approach, and in Di lucas case I would say he already lost his right to be trusted years ago.
My point is, no team can not be aware if a rider dopes, at least if they live up to their responsibility. But I think we better stop the discussion here, admin says it belong in the clinic.

 

[Butterhead]

lol. you think teams can test their own riders for doping and know it the same day? he was only entered into the team 1 week before the giro, so they had no idea about values or anything. of course scinto resented it that's why he managed to stop it for months until the sponsor right before the giro threatened to leave the team immediately. you have no idea what you are talking about. I know my stuff unlike you and not it's not naive. it's more hilarious to think you actually believe scinto lets his riders dope and then has the risk of not losing his riders in the giro but his actual job and with him that of countless others.

Doping doesnt take 1 day....but you can take a blood sample and have the result 1 or 2 days later if needed.

You think I dont know anything about doping?
You know, assumptions is the mother of all **** ups!!

The rest of your post...oh dear.

 

[Eshnar]

I said stop the Clinic talk.
edit: Wanna be banned?

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Doping doesnt take 1 day....but you can take a blood sample and have the result 1 or 2 days later if needed.

You think I dont know anything about doping?
You know, assumptions is the mother of all **** ups!!

The rest of your post...oh dear.

I can't believe you are even allowed to post your bull**** in this forum. there's a special place for you and other nutcases that live in their bubble called clinic. I rather stick to facts. good day

 

[JorgeZZ]

What about Mikel Nieve?

 

[Flamin]

What about Mikel Nieve?

Tour

10 char

 

[JorgeZZ]

Tour

hmm... i can count about 15 riders for the Tour

Sivtsov for Tour?