Giro 2017 Field Discussion/Speculation

[Anderis]

I think one rider will end up trying to ride a good GC (presumably Formolo), the rest will try to attack a lot.

 

[SafeBet]

I like the team, much better than what we guessed in the past month.
Bettiol is probably set to ride the Tour.

 

[Valv.Piti]

So we basically only need Katusha now.. are we surprised by some of the selections?

 

[Leffe_Bruin]

Katusha:
Ilnur ZAKARIN (RUS), Maxim BELKOV (RUS), José GONÇALVES (POR), Robert KIŠERLOVSKI (CRO), Pavel KOCHETKOV (RUS), Viacheslav KUZNETSOV (RUS), Alberto LOSADA (ESP), Matvey MAMYKIN (RUS), Angel VICIOSO (ESP)

 

[May0maniac]

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Katusha:
Ilnur ZAKARIN (RUS), Maxim BELKOV (RUS), José GONÇALVES (POR), Robert KIŠERLOVSKI (CRO), Pavel KOCHETKOV (RUS), Viacheslav KUZNETSOV (RUS), Alberto LOSADA (ESP), Matvey MAMYKIN (RUS), Angel VICIOSO (ESP)

Taaramäe not riding the Giro is a bit of a surprise, at the start of the season he was supposed to ride the Giro as a climbin domestique and TdS as a protected rider, probabl alonside Spilak.

 

[MADRAZO]

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Katusha:
Ilnur ZAKARIN (RUS), Maxim BELKOV (RUS), José GONÇALVES (POR), Robert KIŠERLOVSKI (CRO), Pavel KOCHETKOV (RUS), Viacheslav KUZNETSOV (RUS), Alberto LOSADA (ESP), Matvey MAMYKIN (RUS), Angel VICIOSO (ESP)

Taaramäe not riding the Giro is a bit of a surprise, at the start of the season he was supposed to ride the Giro as a climbin domestique and TdS as a protected rider, probabl alonside Spilak.

Taaramae has been riding so horible bad all season that I suppose it made no sence to put him in the Giro now. Hopefully now he can find some form for the Tour or Vuelta.

 

[lenric]

Rolland for the GC.

 

[Vesica]

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Not the best leadout for Gaviria, but it's even better for him I think, because most certaintly he will go too early if Richeze is at the front.

Not the best lead-out? With Keisse, Martinelli and Richeze. What would you expect more?

 

[May0maniac]

Gaviria always has Martinelli and Richeze, it's his usual train and Richeze is just a world class leadout man.

 

[Valv.Piti]

Liking Cannondale's team, Formolo for the GC, Woods can do well on the hilly stages in week one, but the trio of Dombro, Carthy and Rolland will be great to watch if they are going well. Expecting them to infiltrate every god damn break.

 

[deValtos]

Wow with that team from Cannondale they might, might, just finally get that elusive world tour win. Get in every break in the mountains and I think they should be able to pick one up. Then again ...

Solid team from Katusha, better support for Zak than Orica/Lotto.

 

[SafeBet]

Wilier: Pozzato, Amezqueta, Belletti, Busato, Godoy, Koshevoy, Mareczko, Martinez, Rodriguez.

 

[Vroome.exe]

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Not the best leadout for Gaviria, but it's even better for him I think, because most certaintly he will go too early if Richeze is at the front.

Not the best lead-out? With Keisse, Martinelli and Richeze. What would you expect more?

Keisse is often doing work early in the race, I don't remember when he was in the leadout. Richeze is world class in this area, but I'm not so sure about Martinelli, he might be too weak for this competition. And Gaviria needs much more than 3 teammates dedicated for him, but only Devenyns could do something on the flat.

 

[May0maniac]

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Not the best leadout for Gaviria, but it's even better for him I think, because most certaintly he will go too early if Richeze is at the front.

Not the best lead-out? With Keisse, Martinelli and Richeze. What would you expect more?

Keisse is often doing work early in the race, I don't remember when he was in the leadout. Richeze is world class in this area, but I'm not so sure about Martinelli, he might be too weak for this competition. And he needs much more than 3 teammates dedicated for him, but only Devenyns could do something on the flat.

MArtinelli did the same job for Kittel in Dubai, so the level of competition shouldn't be a problem for him, but the guy has never ridden a gt before, that could be a problem.

 

[yaco]

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Not the best leadout for Gaviria, but it's even better for him I think, because most certaintly he will go too early if Richeze is at the front.

Not the best lead-out? With Keisse, Martinelli and Richeze. What would you expect more?

Keisse is often doing work early in the race, I don't remember when he was in the leadout. Richeze is world class in this area, but I'm not so sure about Martinelli, he might be too weak for this competition. And Gaviria needs much more than 3 teammates dedicated for him, but only Devenyns could do something on the flat.

None of the teams with sprinters have strong lead-outs because they are looking at GC.

 

[klintE]

Canondale with no leader; hunting for stages and points.

 

[DNP-Old]

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Wilier: Pozzato, Amezqueta, Belletti, Busato, Godoy, Koshevoy, Mareczko, Martinez, Rodriguez.

Androni sitting at home for this ****.

 

[Armchair cyclist]

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Wilier: Pozzato, Amezqueta, Belletti, Busato, Godoy, Koshevoy, Mareczko, Martinez, Rodriguez.

Not according to what Willier announced 4 hours before you posted this:
Pozzato, Amezqueta, , Busato, Koshevoy, Mareczko, Martinez, Rodriguez, Fonzi, Zhupa (not Belletti or Godoy)

Not that it'll make much difference to the results.

 

[portugal11]

Tejay said that he didn't do any type of train at altitude. Another failure is coming soon... how the hell was this guy leader of bmc for 4 years...

 

[Akuryo]

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Tejay said that he didn't do any type of train at altitude. Another failure is coming soon... how the hell was this guy leader of bmc for 4 years...

What has altitude training to do with doing well in the GC? This rumor is quite persistent. Just look at for instance Jungels last year who didn't do any specific training before and ended up 6th (in a weaker field, but still).

 

[Ikbengodniet]

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Tejay said that he didn't do any type of train at altitude. Another failure is coming soon... how the hell was this guy leader of bmc for 4 years...

What has altitude training to do with doing well in the GC? This rumor is quite persistent. Just look at for instance Jungels last year who didn't do any specific training before and ended up 6th (in a weaker field, but still).

Jungels trained in Sierra Nevada before last year's Giro. Better example is Dumoulin who did no specific altitude training for Vuelta 2015. But in my opinion skipping altitude camp before a GT is a major setback.

 

[HelloDolly]

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Tejay said that he didn't do any type of train at altitude. Another failure is coming soon... how the hell was this guy leader of bmc for 4 years...

Yes BMC have sent no one to altitude this year or even to a training camp ....seems to be working for them so far but wonder at their decision for TJ

SK sprent 3 weeks at altitiude and of course Quintana was at altitiude at home .and Thomas was in an altitude camp also in April

Maybe TJ doesnt get any benefit from altitude training

 

[Hugo Koblet]

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Tejay said that he didn't do any type of train at altitude. Another failure is coming soon... how the hell was this guy leader of bmc for 4 years...

Yes BMC have sent no one to altitude this year or even to a training camp ....seems to be working for them so far but wonder at their decision for TJ

SK sprent 3 weeks at altitiude and of course Quintana was at altitiude at home .and Thomas was in an altitude camp also in April

Maybe TJ doesnt get any benefit from altitude training

It doesn't seem like TJ gets any benefit from training altogether. Or perhaps he doesn't train and that's the issue

 

[glassmoon]

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Tejay said that he didn't do any type of train at altitude. Another failure is coming soon... how the hell was this guy leader of bmc for 4 years...

Yes BMC have sent no one to altitude this year or even to a training camp ....seems to be working for them so far but wonder at their decision for TJ

SK sprent 3 weeks at altitiude and of course Quintana was at altitiude at home .and Thomas was in an altitude camp also in April

Maybe TJ doesnt get any benefit from altitude training

Is that even physically/biologically possible?
Yeah, I too sense another GT fail with this guy.

 

[SafeBet]

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Wilier: Pozzato, Amezqueta, Belletti, Busato, Godoy, Koshevoy, Mareczko, Martinez, Rodriguez.

Not according to what Willier announced 4 hours before you posted this:
Pozzato, Amezqueta, , Busato, Koshevoy, Mareczko, Martinez, Rodriguez, Fonzi, Zhupa (not Belletti or Godoy)

Not that it'll make much difference to the results.

You're right. I thought the Giro website was updated but obviously not.