Giro 2017, stage 19: S.Candido/Innichen - Piancavallo 191 km

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Irondan said:
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I meant him devouring a croissant in one bite whilst making strange noises. :D
 
May 5, 2010
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lenric said:
Kwibus said:
lenric said:
Such an exciting stage


So there was 40km of extreme hard racing in which the gc leader almost got shelled and its still boring.
What do you want to happen at this stage of the stage?

I'd rather have a better designed route for the 100th Giro instead of the crap they did.

Today's attack was stupid, because with such an enormous amount of flat kms after the mountains, the differences would have been annulled.

It might seem stupid now, since it obviously didn't work. However, it might have, so you just gonna try. :D
 
Nov 29, 2010
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Meh, while I agree this stage is lacking something we don't need it to finish on the Zoncolan. It hasn't been at all interesting the last couple times we have been up it.
 
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Escarabajo said:
saneguy said:
Seems like everyone has already surrendered the Giro to TD. No action at all!
Because they don't attack in the flat part?

They arent even riding - they're peddling on the 19th stage of a GC. I thought we could have had a better route for sure.
 
Jul 12, 2012
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BigMac said:
Sorta predictable with _/\_______/ kind of routes.
As you said, sorta. It was fairly close to being rather epic. If the GPS gaps were right, and Yatesy wasn't really itching for another white jersey (not that I blame him, he was riding his race) we might've gotten it.

I don't think the GPS was right when the footage started. I counted around 40s between the groups from the one long heli shot they showed in the valley, yet the GPS said it was almost 2 minutes.
 
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wolvie15 said:
I expect lots of action in the break. If they stay together, they will be handing the victory to Rui Costa or to Sanchez

Nah. None of them can handle the Landa in 13 km at 8%.

The only issue is how well recovered is Landa from yesterday.
 
Jul 27, 2009
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King Boonen said:
BigMac said:
King Boonen said:
Does anyone know why the starting town is named after a shrub?

Ni!

:D
Probably pure fantasy by the Italian fascists back in the day. The correct name is Innichen. In fact there are very few towns in South Tyrol with real Italian names.

Our local boy knows better of course.
 
May 5, 2010
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saneguy said:
Escarabajo said:
saneguy said:
Seems like everyone has already surrendered the Giro to TD. No action at all!
Because they don't attack in the flat part?

They arent even riding - they're peddling on the 19th stage of a GC. I thought we could have had a better route for sure.

What are they peddling? :p Gels? Bottles?
JK... I know typos can happen. Though, don't you usually need to pedal in order to ride a bike? Except for the downhills, of course.


dgodave said:
How much sand river is there in Italy???

It might be the same...
 
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Why aren't the opponents of TD pick up the pace. They had him isolated in the first climbs. And, now for more than 50 kms, they let the Sunweb team relax and recuperate.

If they had picked up the pace, they might have had Dumoulin isolated early on on the climb. Now, he probably will be to have help in the most difficult part of the climb. Then, it will be too late to make up significant time . Are they forgetting they need at least 2 minutes up on Dumoulin if they want to win ?

I getthe feeling they have given up , and that Nibali and Quintana are simply protecing their place on the podium. If it is so , then i hope , like Dumoulin said, that they get knocked off the podium
 
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Over/under on the amount of time the Sunweb uniforms are seen in the bunch once we hit the climb? Four minutes?
 
Jul 25, 2012
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staubsauger said:
King Boonen said:
BigMac said:
King Boonen said:
Does anyone know why the starting town is named after a shrub?

Ni!

:D
Probably pure fantasy by the Italian fascists back in the day. The correct name is Innichen. In fact there are very few towns in South Tyrol with real Italian names.

Our local boy knows better of course.

I took some artistic licence with the name so it's possible it isn't named after a North America shrub... :D
 
May 19, 2014
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RedheadDane said:
lenric said:
Kwibus said:
lenric said:
Such an exciting stage


So there was 40km of extreme hard racing in which the gc leader almost got shelled and its still boring.
What do you want to happen at this stage of the stage?

I'd rather have a better designed route for the 100th Giro instead of the crap they did.

Today's attack was stupid, because with such an enormous amount of flat kms after the mountains, the differences would have been annulled.

It might seem stupid now, since it obviously didn't work. However, it might have, so you just gonna try. :D

No. With a 60 kms flat stint after the mountains it would be stupid nonetheless. Especially considering that crosswinds weren't considered a factor for this stage.
 
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at this point - I only hope & pray that LuLu wins the stage and whatever happens seems the same as yesterday. :(
 
Aug 4, 2014
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lenric said:
No. With a 60 kms flat stint after the mountains it would be stupid nonetheless. Especially considering that crosswinds weren't considered a factor for this stage.
You don't need crosswinds if you have a 20 second gap coming off that climb and more riders in the front group than the chasing group.
 
Feb 18, 2015
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lenric said:
RedheadDane said:
lenric said:
Kwibus said:
lenric said:
Such an exciting stage


So there was 40km of extreme hard racing in which the gc leader almost got shelled and its still boring.
What do you want to happen at this stage of the stage?

I'd rather have a better designed route for the 100th Giro instead of the crap they did.

Today's attack was stupid, because with such an enormous amount of flat kms after the mountains, the differences would have been annulled.

It might seem stupid now, since it obviously didn't work. However, it might have, so you just gonna try. :D

No. With a 60 kms flat stint after the mountains it would be stupid nonetheless. Especially considering that crosswinds weren't considered a factor for this stage.
But what if dumoulins group hadn't been strong enough to catch the first group? In that case the flat would have been a huge problem for a group without domestiques
 
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Ataraxus said:
wolvie15 said:
I expect lots of action in the break. If they stay together, they will be handing the victory to Rui Costa or to Sanchez

Nah. None of them can handle the Landa in 13 km at 8%.

The only issue is how well recovered is Landa from yesterday.

The first 6 kms are hard. After that , it gets under 6 % . And there will be lots of time to catch up a rider that would be foolish enough o go early.

I know Landa is hungry for a stage victory . But Sanchez is a good tactical rider. 3 or 4 years ago, i would have chosen him. Now , i don't think he has the legs.

If Landa goes early, his main competition will be Pierre Rolland
 
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What's happened to Formolo on the last two stages? Is he saving himself for tomorrow's stage and go for the win or is he just spent?
 
May 19, 2014
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carton said:
lenric said:
No. With a 60 kms flat stint after the mountains it would be stupid nonetheless. Especially considering that crosswinds weren't considered a factor for this stage.
You don't need crosswinds if you have a 20 second gap coming off that climb and more riders in the front group than the chasing group.

Irrelevant by itself. What matters the most are who are riders that are on the front and behind, not the amount. Plus, their rouleur skills and ability to organize themselves to distance who's behind. The same can be said about those who were behind.

Either way, with the last mountain of the day and tomorrow's stage they had to conserve their energies instead of doing desperate attacks.
 
Jun 22, 2010
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Either Dumoulin cracks on the final climb or he cracks everyone in the final part of the climb. I can't see anything in between.
 

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