Giro 2017, stage 9: Montenero di Bisaccia - Blockhaus 149 km

[TommyGun]

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Sooo much hype about Dumoulin, supposedly the only and one rival of Quintana..
afaik Pinot is still a stronger climber that Dumoulin : did you see Dumoulin attack once during the climb ? If he was behind Quintana's wheel as Pinot was, he would have blown up big time.
And let's not forget that Dumoulin has not really proven that he can hold this level of shape for 3 weeks, on the contrary of Pinot.
I am quite sure Dumoulin will crack when the multi-climb Dolomitic stages arrive.

Dumoulin led a vuelta the entire way up until the last stage, that he hadn't prepared for, in which his best mountain domestique was Big John Degenkolb

He will be fine

Well, let's talk about it in 10 days

 

[Alexandre B.]

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24 might not sound much, but it seems hard to imagine that Quintana could have gone much faster... he was going absolutely flat out.

But Quintana becomes a stronger climber relative to everyone else in the world in the third week.

That's not blatant since his Tour 2015.

 

[Richeypen]

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so apparently G went down because a rider in front of him crashed into a moto, ala Porte/Froome last year...... well, I guess is time for Landa to go for stage hunting then....

You know Landa went down, too? And he's much worse off. I wouldn't be surprised if he DNF's.

did he too? :surprised: damn it!!!

Got up pretty quickly but something was pretty badly wrong, is Giro is over.

 

[WheelofGear]

Remember when Pozzovivo beat everyone but Cancellara and Tony Martin in a lumpy time tiral.

Wonder if "micro man" can re-find that TT shape.

 

[TomLPC]

LOL

"How are you feeling Tom?"

"I'm feeling ***"

 

[Rollthedice]

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24 might not sound much, but it seems hard to imagine that Quintana could have gone much faster... he was going absolutely flat out.

But Quintana becomes a stronger climber relative to everyone else in the world in the third week.

Apparently he climbed today at Alpe level 2015. That is alien. There are no words to describe what Dumoulin did today in relation to this.

 

[dacooley]

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Mollema, Dumoulin and Pinot would be happy with that. Quintana would have been hoping for more.

I imagine Quintana is delighted with the outcome of the stage. Half the 'contenders' are now out of contention; it's basically now a fight between him Pinot, Nibali, Mollema and possibly Dumoulin. And he already has a nice advantage over all of them and knows his climbing shape is good enough to drop them all fairly comfortably. All that, without even having had a multi climb stage yet.

you are putting it as though once quintana wants he easily puts 1-2 minutes on any rider in the field on multimountain stage.

Well, based on his perfomances of the past and the climbing level of his rivals, it's actually a quite accurate theorem.

I for myself didn't see any stage when quintana distanced the whole field by 1-2 minutes on a single mountain day, barring the scandalous stage to Val Martello. All the more so, people make an emphasis on him beating the opponents easily, fairly combortably, effortlessly and so on.

 

[BigMac]

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Sky back to stage winning now?

If i were them Id pull out completely. A statement needs to be sent about the motos **** up races

They aren't quitters.. They'll try to win a stage.

They wont quit because of their Italian sponsors. They will stay in and nothing will change.

If Sky, Orica & Sunweb pulled out it might be the start of something.

I do agree that Sky should pull out completely but why on earth Orica and especially Sunweb will pull out? It is a ****** situation but just calm down

It's not just a ****** situation, this is very serious. It's because people play down this outrageous incidents that everything stays the same. Just throw a sad face, say ''a shame it happened'', and never ask for change and accountability. This is unacceptable, and the fact that whoever's in charge just doesn't care makes me wanna start punching faces.

 

[deValtos]

The Sunweb and BMC rider on the front should've signaled that Motorbike better I think. As bad as it was from the motorbike driver it should have been avoidable. Still outrageous though.

 

[DanielSong39]

Tough luck for Sky, and it was an unfortunate incident that I hope is not repeated.

With that said, kudos to the race organizers for not neutralizing the stage.

 

[Mr.White]

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Again Movistar shows that they are team without moral, it's okay they are leading but after the crash the push the pace even further, but okay if that is the only way that loser team can win let them.

There's another 10 contenders for GC? Movistar has to beat? Because one crashed we stop? What if it was a sprinter instead of the all important Thomas?

Movistar did nothing wrong. Sky got pilloried on here a few years ago when they carried on the pace at the Vuelta when a Movistar rider went down though.

Check again. Sky didn't carried the pace, Sky went exactly when Movistar riders fell. And it was a leader of the race who fell.

 

[IndianCyclist]

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Sooo much hype about Dumoulin, supposedly the only and one rival of Quintana..
afaik Pinot is still a stronger climber that Dumoulin : did you see Dumoulin attack once during the climb ? If he was behind Quintana's wheel as Pinot was, he would have blown up big time.
And let's not forget that Dumoulin has not really proven that he can hold this level of shape for 3 weeks, on the contrary of Pinot.
I am quite sure Dumoulin will crack when the multi-climb Dolomitic stages arrive.

Dumoulin led a vuelta the entire way up until the last stage, that he hadn't prepared for, in which his best mountain domestique was Big John Degenkolb

He will be fine

TD lost Vuelta as his team was not capable of defending
Kelderman is injured in this stage. may turn to same situation However this time last stage is TT of 29k which is in his favour

 

[staubsauger]

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Movistar push on. Nice

The race was already on. They're just continuing the pace the already had going. After all, they were at the front.

They're doing this **** ever since provoking Leipheimer to crash twice at 13 PN, but started whining massively when Sky let them pay the check for it later that year. ****'em!

Where was your outrage when Valverde crashed while wearing yellow and Sky pressed on?

That's actually the case I mentioned above.

 

[Robert5091]

Good for Tom D & Pinot ... otherwise shame a moto interefered again.

 

[Richeypen]

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Tough luck for Sky, and it was an unfortunate incident that I hope is not repeated.

With that said, kudos to the race organizers for not neutralizing the stage.

Repeat to fade.....

 

[movingtarget]

Disappointing ride by Steven K.

 

[Guybrush]

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Thomas has an excuse for quitting. Since he hurt his shoulder and Froome needs him in the Tour.

But Landa CAN'T quit. They need to win something in this Giro and he is still have a good chance on winning the Stelvio stage from a break or something.

if he does it, his GT career as leader is over

 

[Arredondo]

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Mollema, Dumoulin and Pinot would be happy with that. Quintana would have been hoping for more.

I imagine Quintana is delighted with the outcome of the stage. Half the 'contenders' are now out of contention; it's basically now a fight between him Pinot, Nibali, Mollema and possibly Dumoulin. And he already has a nice advantage over all of them and knows his climbing shape is good enough to drop them all fairly comfortably. All that, without even having had a multi climb stage yet.

you are putting it as though once quintana wants he easily puts 1-2 minutes on any rider in the field on multimountain stage.

Well, based on his perfomances of the past and the climbing level of his rivals, it's actually a quite accurate theorem.

I for myself didn't see any stage when quintana distanced the whole field by 1-2 minus on a single mountain day, barring the scandalous stage to Val Martello. All the more so, people make an emphasis on him beating the opponents easily, fairly combortably, effortlessly and so on.

Not against Contador, Froome or Nibali, you're right.

But if he wants, he can put 2 minutes on guys like Mollema and Dumoulin in a multiple mountain stage, like the Bormio one. But he doesn't have too really. It's sufficient to deliver 3/4x like he did on Blockhaus today. Because apart from Dumoulin, he will not lose any time on the other GC rivals in the TT's. Even Nibali isn't a clearly better timetrialist anymore.

 

[WildspokeJoe]

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If I were the riders, I would consider boycotting the rest day press conferences. Tell them they need to write about the fact there are too many motos on the road.

Quintana rode great today. Too bad crash overshadows his amazing performance.
Worse still crash destroyed my fantasy team.

 

[WheelofGear]

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Tough luck for Sky, and it was an unfortunate incident that I hope is not repeated.

With that said, kudos to the race organizers for not neutralizing the stage.

Yeah. It was the right decision.

I just hope they will go stage hunting now. Quitting is stupid unless they are badly hurt.

 

[jaylew]

Someone mentioned Kelderman is out of the race. Not sure if that's been confirmed but if so, there goes Dumo's only real mountain help. Is that Landa just finishing?

 

[BigMac]

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Tough luck for Sky, and it was an unfortunate incident that I hope is not repeated.

With that said, kudos to the race organizers for not neutralizing the stage.

This is what I'm talking about. See, it was not ''unfortunate'', it was bloody disgraceful. I'm tired of this crap. Do something. Why are people not outraged and utterly pissed off by this sort of thing? It will happen again and again and again and all we'll hear and read are lamentations. To hell with this. Geting really fed up with the pro level of this sport.

 

[Laplaz]

Dumourain really strong today, and Tuesday he will wear pink.

 

[movingtarget]

Sky can't seem to escape problems in the Giro.

 

[BigMac]

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Thomas has an excuse for quitting. Since he hurt his shoulder and Froome needs him in the Tour.

But Landa CAN'T quit. They need to win something in this Giro and he is still have a good chance on winning the Stelvio stage from a break or something.

if he does it, his GT career as leader is over

What, why? I mean...?