Giro del Trentino 2012

[Ryo Hazuki]

How is he overrated? I don't get it. Nobody speaks about him as a top favourite anywhere. In fact nobody speaks much about him at all. That given, he has some decent results this season showing good form. And yeah, Giro is the main goal now and I think podium is definitely possible.

this is what I mena. hilarious to think that. that's why he's overrated and you are not the only one

 

[Kokoso]

this is what I mena. hilarious to think that. that's why he's overrated and you are not the only one

ok, but tell why it shouldn't be so?

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

he's never EVER been close to a podium in a gc. not even top 5.

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

he's never EVER been close to a podium in a gc. not even top 5.

he was 5th last years giro if you don't count for Alberto, so to say that he is far away is just plain wrong

 

[Kokoso]

he's never EVER been close to a podium in a gc. not even top 5.

What? He was top five last year, beating Rujano for instance. And he's still very young, not even 26 years old. And he's getting better step by step. This year showing better form than last year in every race he stepped in.
Often compared to Nibali, who was third at Giro in age of 25 years 7 months and won Vuelta 4 months later, not so much younger than Roman is now. Before that Nibali was nowhere near gc podium, yet he managed to make it.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

he wasn't top 5 last year. he finished 6th and was lucky rujano got sick or he would've been 7th. ands yes he's 26 and has improved in years. he already won mountainstages and itt's at age 22 that he can't win anymore

 

[markene2]

he wasn't top 5 last year. he finished 6th and was lucky rujano got sick or he would've been 7th. ands yes he's 26 and has improved in years. he already won mountainstages and itt's at age 22 that he can't win anymore

Want to have an avatar bet? If Kreuziger get's top 5 you will take a Kreuziger avater for 1 month, if he doesent i will take someone from Colombia Coldeportes for 2 months?

 

[Froome19]

he wasn't top 5 last year. he finished 6th and was lucky rujano got sick or he would've been 7th. ands yes he's 26 and has improved in years. he already won mountainstages and itt's at age 22 that he can't win anymore

The field is weaker this year.
That must count for a few extra placings

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Want to have an avatar bet? If Kreuziger get's top 5 you will take a Kreuziger avater for 1 month, if he doesent i will take someone from Colombia Coldeportes for 2 months?

I will take a kreuziger avatar for a full year and you of rujano for a full year if you dare

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

The field is weaker this year.
That must count for a few extra placings

the field doesn't have contador. but is has new riders like uran, henao and quintana that are better

 

[markene2]

I will take a kreuziger avatar for a full year and you of rujano for a full year if you dare

I dare, though i know Rujano will smash in this years giro, but Kreuziger will still finish top five

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

ok it's on then

 

[Froome19]

the field doesn't have contador. but is has new riders like uran, henao and quintana that are better

You may think they are better and they may very well be but what are realistically the chances that all 3 are going to make impacts on GC all for the first time in a GT.?

 

[Netserk]

You may think they are better and they may very well be but what are realistically the chances that all 3 are going to make impacts on GC all for the first time in a GT.?

Uran? First time?? Did you see the tour last year?

 

[cineteq]

ok it's on then

Any avatar bet you do will be cursed, that means you'll win every bet every time, since andy and the dolphin want to stay there with daddy

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

You may think they are better and they may very well be but what are realistically the chances that all 3 are going to make impacts on GC all for the first time in a GT.?

well at least 1 or 2 of them should make an impact. so contador out 1 or 2 riders and hopefylly 3 that are in. and I don;t even count pozzovivo because I expect him to have peaked earlier. but there are enough riders that are/can do better than kreuziger

 

[Martina]

well at least 1 or 2 of them should make an impact. so contador out 1 or 2 riders and hopefylly 3 that are in. and I don;t even count pozzovivo because I expect him to have peaked earlier. but there are enough riders that are/can do better than kreuziger

Jeez, Ryo, did Kreuziger bit you or what?
It seems you are (from all the riders) jumping by this name all the way to the ceiling... I just don't get it, why do you react this way, only something very personal has to be in the background - did you got bankrupt betting on him or what?
I also have some riders I'm not so fan of, but why to be touchy?

 

[El Pistolero]

Kreuziger implied Rujano was doping, so that explains the hatred.

 

[will10]

Kreuziger hasn't really progressed in the last few seasons but is a reliable top 10 bet in GTs. Considering the field for this coming Giro and the parcours, barring problems, he's a safe bet for a top 10 and could definitely finish in the top 5.

 

[karlboss]

Kreuziger hasn't really progressed in the last few seasons but is a reliable top 10 bet in GTs. Considering the field for this coming Giro and the parcours, barring problems, he's a safe bet for a top 10 and could definitely finish in the top 5.

In 2011 he changed his schedule instead of the Tour Vuelta, chose to ride the Giro as sole leader. I'm not sure his style suits Giro climbs especially when the pace is being set by a superb Contador.
I think he'd do better to work on his TT and focus on the Vuelta and Tour rather than Giro.

 

[Kokoso]

Kreuziger implied Rujano was doping, so that explains the hatred.

What? Where? Haven't seen it

 

[jens_attacks]

What? Where? Haven't seen it

on his site back last year during the giro.i'm a big astana fan but also kreuziger lost my support that day.

 

[Kokoso]

he wasn't top 5 last year. he finished 6th and was lucky rujano got sick or he would've been 7th. ands yes he's 26 and has improved in years. he already won mountainstages and itt's at age 22 that he can't win anymore

Maybe you haven't noticed the fact that Contador is no longer in the results So Rujano stated that he was sick, but whatever that was it didn't change outcome and I can still see Kreuziger ahead of Rujano by this time he's still 25, not 26. Can you tell me what itts he won? Cause I can't see it anywhere. In fact his time trial abilities are almost the same or of I'm strict maybe just little bit worse then they used to be, but really almost unnoticeable. If you judge it on the basis of Tirreno TT, than yes, that was really bad, but he hadn't many race kms in his legs by that time. And it was only one. Romandie prologue was just fine.

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

well at least 1 or 2 of them should make an impact. so contador out 1 or 2 riders and hopefylly 3 that are in. and I don;t even count pozzovivo because I expect him to have peaked earlier. but there are enough riders that are/can do better than kreuziger

He can never handle the GT enviroment, always gets sick or something.

Still, I will maintain hope pozz can do it at the giro

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Maybe you haven't noticed the fact that Contador is no longer in the results So Rujano stated that he was sick, but whatever that was it didn't change outcome and I can still see Kreuziger ahead of Rujano by this time he's still 25, not 26. Can you tell me what itts he won? Cause I can't see it anywhere. In fact his time trial abilities are almost the same or of I'm strict maybe just little bit worse then they used to be, but really almost unnoticeable. If you judge it on the basis of Tirreno TT, than yes, that was really bad, but he hadn't many race kms in his legs by that time. And it was only one. Romandie prologue was just fine.

and zomegnan already said and the rcs they won't change the result contador is the winner and he is the winner in almost everyone's eyes. I'm not counting rujano as winning on the etna now either. that is just pathetic