Giro d'Italia 2015 stage 19: Gravellona Toce–Cervinia 236km

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IamIronMan said:
Is this year's race an experiment or something with these MTF stages? They are putting the hard climbs first, then finishing on some lame big ring climb. I don't like it, IMO the stages should finish with a legit MTF, not these false flat climbs.
Will that do:
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IamIronMan said:
I have to admit, Landa is playing the teammate role very well. Much better than Stick Insect Froome did in 2012 to Wiggins. Clearly Landa could and should be second in the race, but he seems content to let Aru have it, and to babysit him.

it is not like that.

Landa attacked in the only hard slope of the climb...but contador was there, so..Aru atacked and Landa must be at contador wheel, other thing is has no sense...

Tomorrow will be another day, more if rain. If Aru goes... Contador could do like today, but with that he could lose 10 minutes, it would be a moment that Contador shoul put a hard pace

But for Landa an Astanagood day, they `put time on his rivals. The podium today is more likely for both of them, and the stage was for Astana aswell... that was the objetive.
 
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Rough KOM guide.

Visconti: 125
Kruijswijk: 108
Intxausti: 107
Landa: 75
Betancur: 68
Aru: 61
Geshke: 53
Contador: 49

Intxausti to go into the break tomorrow.
 
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TourOfSardinia said:
IamIronMan said:
Is this year's race an experiment or something with these MTF stages? They are putting the hard climbs first, then finishing on some lame big ring climb. I don't like it, IMO the stages should finish with a legit MTF, not these false flat climbs.
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Sestriere is an easy climb.
 
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Aru was typical in his usual way, hard luck to ryder didn't have it Contador would not fall or astana plan to at least tire him out
 
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IamIronMan said:
Ataraxus said:
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Contador might as well have taken a nap. Another fail from Astana.

Nap or no I don't kno
All I kno he is close to getting zero stage wins.

P.S. Kangert Aru and Landa and Contador isolated. What about you Basso man and rogers helping Contador?
When I say don't become like Taxus i mean it.

Is this all the Contador haters have left? He didn't win a stage? LOL he's up 5' in GC, who cares?! Yes, in 10 years when we look back we're going to say "oh remember that Giro where Astana won 4 stages, wow incredible! Who won the whole race though, I forget..." Not.


Haters always have more, they can just reach into the bottomless pit of their @$$es and pull out as much as they want whenever they want for any reason they want.

'He couldn't drop Rasmussen in 07' no matter how hard he tried...attacked Andy while he figured out the intricacies of SRAM Red shifting under power... Attacked Astana when they tumbled like dominoes....and of course 'Doper' '

The stupidity is endless.
 
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irondan said:
Andro said:
irondan said:
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irondan said:
Landa the biggest loser of the stage?

Eh, no? He didn't lose anything.
No? I think losing 2nd is something. Maybe he gets it back tomorrow?

Are you aware that the riders are riding on teams and it isn't every man for himself?
Thanks for helping me with that. I don't know what I was thinking! Riders from the same team have absolutely, positively never raced each other before when on the same team. Right Greg?

I was merely asking who the biggest loser of the day was. Simple question.

Well, you seem incapable of understanding that riders on the same team typically work together and help each other. :)

It was a good day for Astana - including Landa. Landa didn't go full out and yet still gained time on Amador while his teammate won the stage and secured the double podium.
 
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IamIronMan said:
Is this year's race an experiment or something with these MTF stages? They are putting the hard climbs first, then finishing on some lame big ring climb. I don't like it, IMO the stages should finish with a legit MTF, not these false flat climbs.

Weel, you have the Vuelta fot that.. all for you :D , I prefer Giro, when you can have a batle from far.

Today the second climb was very windym, but the stage was ok... maybe wind help in the flat stage, but today that second climb would have to make more pain.

The stage was ok, for a finish of Giro.

Topmorrow is perfect ok, who want to win, must do it in Finestre and keep in Sestrieres.

Maybe you are nwe in cycling, other way I cant understand your post
 
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LaFlorecita said:
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Astana trying to make sure that Contador never gets official stage win in Giro?? (Official record and myself don't count wins when caught and suspended for doping)
Lol why would they care... unless they despise him... lol

Because if he wins a stage it means that they won't :D and it looks like the planned to win as many as possible.
 
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No_Balls said:
Could you guys please stop quoting Taxus sockpuppet Ataraxus. I loses braincells every time i see his texts.

I have to admit, the posts are hilarious. I'd like to know what ac ever did to them? Refuse an autograph or something?
 
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Andro said:
Well, you seem incapable of understanding that riders on the same team typically work together and help each other. :)

It was a good day for Astana - including Landa. Landa didn't go full out and yet still gained time on Amador while his teammate won the stage and secured the double podium.
2nd is better than 3rd, especially to a guy that's in a contract year. Same team or not, greed prevails... and you think I don't get it? lol
 
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damian13ster said:
LaFlorecita said:
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Astana trying to make sure that Contador never gets official stage win in Giro?? (Official record and myself don't count wins when caught and suspended for doping)
Lol why would they care... unless they despise him... lol

Because if he wins a stage it means that they won't :D and it looks like the planned to win as many as possible.
Yes after their failed attempt to take advantage of Alberto's mechanical, they obviously realized he's too good no matter the misfortune facing him. They seem content to get the bread crumbs for themselves, which is understandable.
 
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I am glad Aru took this stage. It was a very hard week for such a young rider so I hope he can go out of this giro with a smile
ps: guys, don't be disappointed about this stage. If this would be a tour stage we would say it was great... :eek:
 
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Landa is the biggest loser of this stage. That will be a bitter pill to swallow as he was the strongest. I think he is already out of Astana for next year.
 
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Lol, if 5 stage wins and 2 podium spots with cyclists that aren't even strongest in the team are bread crumbs then I guess you are right :D
 
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Sasquatch said:
damian13ster said:
Astana trying to make sure that Contador never gets official stage win in Giro?? (Official record and myself don't count wins when caught and suspended for doping)

I don't think Contador gives a ****. He didn't win a stage in 2008 and it won't bother him that he didn't win a stage here. Stages are secondary. Winning a GT is the most important thing.

First: Contador gives a little bit of *** when it comes to winning stages. The interviews from his team talking about where to focus on his stage win, clearly demonstrate that.
Second: I'm not a Contador hater. I praised him yesterday and I've praised him in the past. My previous posts demonstrate that. All I dislike is the blind Contador fanboyism(the second part is not addressed to you. The people who this is addressed to know who they are. And i couldn't care less about responding to them)