Giro d'Italia 2015 Stage 7: Grosseto – Fiuggi 264 kms

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SkyTears said:
Mozart92 said:
Contador is a hero. This is why cycling is a sport for true men, not like those football players that roll on the ground and cry like kids just because they got touched.

Contador is a good actor. Like his broken leg that healed in 1 week. You must be naive to believe anything regarding injury statuses in Contador's case.

Just like Aru's health problems...
 
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Lexman said:
SkyTears said:
Mozart92 said:
Contador is a hero. This is why cycling is a sport for true men, not like those football players that roll on the ground and cry like kids just because they got touched.

Contador is a good actor. Like his broken leg that healed in 1 week. You must be naive to believe anything regarding injury statuses in Contador's case.

Just like Aru's health problems...
And Porte's weight loss program!
 
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I partly agree with the fact Contador real injury isn't as bad as they suggested. Otherwise you can't ride the way he did today.
 
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Arredondo said:
I partly agree with the fact Contador real injury isn't as bad as they suggested. Otherwise you can't ride the way he did today.
The way who suggested? Ive only heard them say it was a dislocated shoulder
 
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Arredondo said:
I partly agree with the fact Contador real injury isn't as bad as they suggested. Otherwise you can't ride the way he did today.

Dislocated shoulder is not a injury but rather a condition . Of course, if you are unlucky you could get injured related to it (ligaments, nerves et.al) but if that was the case Contador wouldnt have started today (let alone finish).
 
Is there some reason Eurosport uses Juan Antonio Fletcha as an english speaking correspondent? His mastery of the english language is fine, but laboring. Not to mention that he already doesn't sound like the sharpest tack in the box. I know I'm going to catch flack for saying this but seriously, of all the guys that have thick accents on Eurosport, his is the absolute worst...
 
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Eagle said:
Arredondo said:
I partly agree with the fact Contador real injury isn't as bad as they suggested. Otherwise you can't ride the way he did today.
The way who suggested? Ive only heard them say it was a dislocated shoulder

If you dislocate your shoulder twice (as he said in an interview), you can't ride the way he did today in 262 km stage (standing and sprinting on the bike multiple times).
 
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Squirbos_19 said:
Bushman said:
Lampre played it very well. Doing a leadout for Modolo while having Ulissi sit on the wheel of Gerrans and wait.

Ulissi came from the left hand side of the road, he wasn't on Gerrans' wheel.

Just when Lampre came around Orica for Modolo, you could see Ulissi in Gerrans' wheel. Dont know if he found another wheel after that though.
 
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Bushman said:
Squirbos_19 said:
Bushman said:
Lampre played it very well. Doing a leadout for Modolo while having Ulissi sit on the wheel of Gerrans and wait.

Ulissi came from the left hand side of the road, he wasn't on Gerrans' wheel.

Just when Lampre came around Orica for Modolo, you could see Ulissi in Gerrans' wheel. Dont know if he found another wheel after that though.

Actually I think you're right, but on the overhead view he was on the left while Gerrans was still on the right, that footage could have started after he started his sprint though. I'll have to watch it again.
 
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SkyTears said:
Mozart92 said:
Contador is a hero. This is why cycling is a sport for true men, not like those football players that roll on the ground and cry like kids just because they got touched.

Contador is a good actor. Like his broken leg that healed in 1 week. You must be naive to believe anything regarding injury statuses in Contador's case.

You and your loony clan with their conspiratorial imaginings have my sympathies. It's a petty and sad frame of mind that you all possess.
 
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Mozart92 said:
damian13ster said:
Mozart92 said:
Contador is a hero. This is why cycling is a sport for true men, not like those football players that roll on the ground and cry like kids just because they got touched.

You are delusional. He was simulating worse than a football player after yesterday;s stage...
Everybody in the right mind and who went through shoulder dislocation knew how it feels, and knew that it is nothing serious. Kind of like dislocating a finger for a football player if you insist on making a comparison and I saw football players play through a multiple, dislocated fractures in their feet.

Because of people like you athletes pull crap like that yesterday's post-stage mockery. All PR

So football players are as tough as cyclists in your opinion? By the way I don't think he was simulating, considering the way he rides it can be annoying for him.

Some footballers are as tough as the toughest cyclist yes, Stuart Pearce comes to mind

On the post you where replying to, I very much doubt Contador was simulating
 
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Arredondo said:
Eagle said:
Arredondo said:
I partly agree with the fact Contador real injury isn't as bad as they suggested. Otherwise you can't ride the way he did today.
The way who suggested? Ive only heard them say it was a dislocated shoulder

If you dislocate your shoulder twice (as he said in an interview), you can't ride the way he did today in 262 km stage (standing and sprinting on the bike multiple times).

Thank you Doctor Arredondo. Your extensive studies in the field of medicine will serve us all well in spotting the injury poseurs in the peloton. :D
 
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Angliru said:
Arredondo said:
Eagle said:
Arredondo said:
I partly agree with the fact Contador real injury isn't as bad as they suggested. Otherwise you can't ride the way he did today.
The way who suggested? Ive only heard them say it was a dislocated shoulder

If you dislocate your shoulder twice (as he said in an interview), you can't ride the way he did today in 262 km stage (standing and sprinting on the bike multiple times).

Thank you Doctor Arredondo. Your extensive studies in the field of medicine will serve us all well in spotting the injury poseurs in the peloton. :D

I will send you my honor thesis concering dislocated shoulders :p
 
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Arredondo said:
Angliru said:
Arredondo said:
Eagle said:
Arredondo said:
I partly agree with the fact Contador real injury isn't as bad as they suggested. Otherwise you can't ride the way he did today.
The way who suggested? Ive only heard them say it was a dislocated shoulder

If you dislocate your shoulder twice (as he said in an interview), you can't ride the way he did today in 262 km stage (standing and sprinting on the bike multiple times).

Thank you Doctor Arredondo. Your extensive studies in the field of medicine will serve us all well in spotting the injury poseurs in the peloton. :D

I will send you my honor thesis concering dislocated shoulders :p

I'll be sure to proof it for you. :p
 
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Mozart92 said:
damian13ster said:
Mozart92 said:
Contador is a hero. This is why cycling is a sport for true men, not like those football players that roll on the ground and cry like kids just because they got touched.

You are delusional. He was simulating worse than a football player after yesterday;s stage...
Everybody in the right mind and who went through shoulder dislocation knew how it feels, and knew that it is nothing serious. Kind of like dislocating a finger for a football player if you insist on making a comparison and I saw football players play through a multiple, dislocated fractures in their feet.

Because of people like you athletes pull crap like that yesterday's post-stage mockery. All PR

So football players are as tough as cyclists in your opinion? By the way I don't think he was simulating, considering the way he rides it can be annoying for him.

I am not generalizing. There are some cyclists tougher than some football players, and some football players tougher than some cyclists. There is bunch of football players that wouldn't cry about dislocated shoulder, that caused no further damage. The yesterday's debacle was a joke and the reaction by some people including several users here was laughable. But it doesn't matter now. Time to come back to actual racing.
 
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Angliru said:
Arredondo said:
Angliru said:
Arredondo said:
Arredondo said:
I partly agree with the fact Contador real injury isn't as bad as they suggested. Otherwise you can't ride the way he did today.

I will send you my honor thesis concering dislocated shoulders :p

I'll be sure to proof it for you. :p

It's a medical term. I don't blame you for not knowing it :p ;)
 
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damian13ster said:
Mozart92 said:
damian13ster said:
Mozart92 said:
Contador is a hero. This is why cycling is a sport for true men, not like those football players that roll on the ground and cry like kids just because they got touched.

You are delusional. He was simulating worse than a football player after yesterday;s stage...
Everybody in the right mind and who went through shoulder dislocation knew how it feels, and knew that it is nothing serious. Kind of like dislocating a finger for a football player if you insist on making a comparison and I saw football players play through a multiple, dislocated fractures in their feet.

Because of people like you athletes pull crap like that yesterday's post-stage mockery. All PR

So football players are as tough as cyclists in your opinion? By the way I don't think he was simulating, considering the way he rides it can be annoying for him.

I am not generalizing. There are some cyclists tougher than some football players, and some football players tougher than some cyclists. There is bunch of football players that wouldn't cry about dislocated shoulder, that caused no further damage. The yesterday's debacle was a joke and the reaction by some people including several users here was laughable. But it doesn't matter now. Time to come back to actual racing.

Look your thesis that he was "acting" as the worst footballer is simply ridiculous. On the one hand footballers "act" to try and condition a favorable outcome from the referee, given that most contact is prohibited in the sport (thus not because they are cry babies) and, on the other, when a cyclist goes down it is always a call for concern.

All the more so when you are the race leader and need to perform optimally over a three week race. His shoulder went out during the crash and then again when he went to put on a clean jersey.

Naturally the sensation is not comforting when you have to get up and race again for the next two weeks.

The Spaniard's concern and reaction was thus completely warrented and comprehensible.

Cycling is painful enough without injuries.
 
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Arredondo said:
Eagle said:
Arredondo said:
I partly agree with the fact Contador real injury isn't as bad as they suggested. Otherwise you can't ride the way he did today.
The way who suggested? Ive only heard them say it was a dislocated shoulder

If you dislocate your shoulder twice (as he said in an interview), you can't ride the way he did today in 262 km stage (standing and sprinting on the bike multiple times).

I've had so many incidents that I can dislocate my shoulder and pop it back in with only minor discomfort.

AC did not look like someone who tore their rotator cuff or even separated their shoulder but you can dislocate your shoulder without doing these things.

That said, AC lies about his form, training, and injuries every year. Its a tradition.
 
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Arredondo said:
Eagle said:
Arredondo said:
I partly agree with the fact Contador real injury isn't as bad as they suggested. Otherwise you can't ride the way he did today.
The way who suggested? Ive only heard them say it was a dislocated shoulder

If you dislocate your shoulder twice (as he said in an interview), you can't ride the way he did today in 262 km stage (standing and sprinting on the bike multiple times).

maybe this wil answer all the comotion about he is not struggling.

“Bueno, I’m happy that I got through the day. I knew I was not feeling great and I suffered, even if things seem to be getting better. We raced for more than seven and a half hours and after four hours I was struggling with my hand. The only thing I want to do now is put some ice on my shoulder and recover from the long stage,” he said on Italian television, opting not to attend the post-race press conference.

“Tomorrow the finish up to Campitello Matese will in theory be a difficult day for me, even if it should have been a good day for me. We’d hoped I’d be able to attack but now we’ll see how I feel, stay relaxed and go on the defensive. I hope to get better day after day.”