Giro D'Italia 2015

[Eshnar]

Now it's a broken link. If you people have it still open, save it!

 

[Netserk]

As for graphic fails, check out the ITT. Apparently the last rise consists of three parts all with 12.2% avg gradient (While the max is 10%)

edit: I can only download the first page :/

 

[SafeBet]

Saved it just in time! Thank you.

 

[Eshnar]

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As for graphic fails, check out the ITT. Apparently the last rise consists of three parts all with 12.2% avg gradient (While the max is 10%)

edit: I can only download the first page :/

Yeah I tweeted about stage 14 to them too. Now there's only the first page, so maybe they're correcting it

 

[Eshnar]

But on stage 4 the fail was epic. It's one thing to get one graphic wrong, but if you repeat the mistake on the written description means you have no idea of the actual stage...

 

[Jack_89]

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As for graphic fails, check out the ITT. Apparently the last rise consists of three parts all with 12.2% avg gradient (While the max is 10%)

edit: I can only download the first page :/

too. how do you people to read it all?

 

[Kokoso]

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The thing is, Porte's team is SO much better than Contador's team.

Rogers has showed absolutely nothing this year, Basso is old, Kreuziger is demoralized and under observation.. then what's left? A lot of B-climbers and rouleurs. Is there anybody who even knows the final team?

Porte has Nieve, König, Lopez, Seb Henao and perhaps Siutsou. They will be 5 when Contador is alone.

Demoralized Kreuziger is still very good, fifth at Liege and strong at all Ardennes. One wonders if he really is demoralized...

Yes, Kreuziger being allowed to race and apparently in decent form is huge for Contador. Roman would be a podium contender if he was on another team.

As for the ITT, I would pick Porte to take it. Amazing form all year, including MTT win in Paris-Nice and national time trial title at Australian championships. Wouldn't expect major differences between he, Contador and Uran though. Alberto is still a very good time triallist. Last year he did some good ones and even in the 2013 TDF he finished second on the hilly one. Overall for the Giro I'd pick Contador, but it's still a little up in the air given the issue of form. Richie is firing on all cylinders, but can he hold that through the whole event? And are there enough difficult stages early to take advantage of if the other contenders are more looking at a third week peak? Probably not. As a fellow Australian, I'd be happy to see Porte make the podium, or even top five. Perhaps a key will be whether that is his mindset too.

Should be an excellent GT.

I'd say König for ITT when I look what he was able to do last TdF ITT with proconti material, he'll improve this year.

 

[lemon cheese cake]

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The thing is, Porte's team is SO much better than Contador's team.

Rogers has showed absolutely nothing this year, Basso is old, Kreuziger is demoralized and under observation.. then what's left? A lot of B-climbers and rouleurs. Is there anybody who even knows the final team?

Porte has Nieve, König, Lopez, Seb Henao and perhaps Siutsou. They will be 5 when Contador is alone.

Demoralized Kreuziger is still very good, fifth at Liege and strong at all Ardennes. One wonders if he really is demoralized...

Yes, Kreuziger being allowed to race and apparently in decent form is huge for Contador. Roman would be a podium contender if he was on another team.

As for the ITT, I would pick Porte to take it. Amazing form all year, including MTT win in Paris-Nice and national time trial title at Australian championships. Wouldn't expect major differences between he, Contador and Uran though. Alberto is still a very good time triallist. Last year he did some good ones and even in the 2013 TDF he finished second on the hilly one. Overall for the Giro I'd pick Contador, but it's still a little up in the air given the issue of form. Richie is firing on all cylinders, but can he hold that through the whole event? And are there enough difficult stages early to take advantage of if the other contenders are more looking at a third week peak? Probably not. As a fellow Australian, I'd be happy to see Porte make the podium, or even top five. Perhaps a key will be whether that is his mindset too.

Should be an excellent GT.

I'd say König for ITT when I look what he was able to do last TdF ITT with proconti material, he'll improve this year.

He was riding riding a Fuji last year, so even if he'd stayed with that team (Bora Argon 18) his TTing would be better as Argon 18's bikes just look more aero than the Fuji ones.

 

[Eshnar]

The Garibaldi is online again. Now the graphics have a *** resolution. And they haven't corrected the description of stage 4. Can't tell about the graphics because of the resolution

 

[Miburo]

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The Garibaldi is online again. Now the graphics have a **** resolution. And they haven't corrected the description of stage 4. Can't tell about the graphics because of the resolution

can you link it?

 

[Eshnar]

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The Garibaldi is online again. Now the graphics have a **** resolution. And they haven't corrected the description of stage 4. Can't tell about the graphics because of the resolution

can you link it?

http://www.gazzetta.it/Giroditalia/2015/download/Garibaldi2015.pdf
same as before.
Also the graphics
But it has more pages, no clue what they added.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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The Garibaldi is online again. Now the graphics have a **** resolution. And they haven't corrected the description of stage 4. Can't tell about the graphics because of the resolution

WTF, all I see is pixels

 

[Netserk]

Is there 10, 6 & 4 bonus seconds on all stages again this year?

 

[Eshnar]

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Is there 10, 6 & 4 bonus seconds on all stages again this year?

I think so

 

[greenedge]

Contador
Uran/Porte
Porte/Uran

 

[phil-i-am]

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WTF, all I see is pixels

You have a 11 MB version. 80MB is far better

Here you are (third post):
http://www.ilnuovociclismo.com/forum/Thread-Giro-d-Italia-pubblicato-il-Garibaldi-dell-edizione-2015

 

[LaFlorecita]

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WTF, all I see is pixels

You have a 11 MB version. 80MB is far better

Here you are (third post):
http://www.ilnuovociclismo.com/forum/Thread-Giro-d-Italia-pubblicato-il-Garibaldi-dell-edizione-2015

thanks my friend, appreciate it

 

[May0maniac]

The startlist:
http://www.tuttobiciweb.it/index.php?page=news&cod=78917&tp=n

 

[Miburo]

Contador's team is stacked as ***. If all of them are on decent shape contador will have 4 guys with the last 20,30 riders.

Kreuziger is in really good shape, he can easily top 5 if he rode for himself.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Contador's team is stacked as ****. If all of them are on decent shape contador will have 4 guys with the last 20,30 riders.

Kreuziger is in really good shape, he can easily top 5 if he rode for himself.

Hmm 3 I guess, which is still very good of course

 

[DFA123]

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Contador's team is stacked as ****. If all of them are on decent shape contador will have 4 guys with the last 20,30 riders.

Kreuziger is in really good shape, he can easily top 5 if he rode for himself.

Yep, it looks very strong. You could say the same about Sky as well though - some very strong riders there. Etixx look significantly weaker than those two, so Uran could be very vulnerable if he has to try to defend the Maglia Rosa after the time trial.

 

[gregrowlerson]

finally Il Garibaldi is online http://www.gazzetta.it/Giroditalia/2015/download/Garibaldi2015.pdf
EDIT: Lol I already spotted an epic fail in stage 4 description and graphics

Stage 9 looks so **** good, holy ****!

That's why the giro will always be better than the tour, you almost never get stages like that in the tour.

Stage 4, 9, 11 and 12 are nothing short than great. When I studied them for my analysis I realized they're even better than I thought at first.
Crosara is one big wall. Not the same side as 2013.

Yes, relooking at the parcours, it's impressive. Initially I felt a little meh about many of the early stages, but it's pretty well balanced, and there might be more there for the GC then first thought. That could only help Porte. I figure that he will enter the race with peak - or close enough to - form, whereas his rivals are going to look to go into it a little underdone with the view to limiting losses and then causing carnage in week three. But there are many lumpy stages in the first two weeks where things could happen.

What are the gradients on the mountain top finishers on stages 5 & 8? Do these climbs only average about 4% or are they over 6% with some steeper sections? I think that Sky need to get the train happening if possible on these climbs. Even if Porte can just jump away in the last km or two and gain 10-20 seconds on those stages, that could be very important for self belief as well as for real time, as this could end up being a very close GC. And whilst this Giro is still typically back ended, there isn't a single high mountain stage that is an absolute beast. There are very hard stages, but not one that totally makes your jaw drop. Another really difficult climb on stage 16 or 20 for example, before Mortirolo or Finestre, that's what Contador would love.

 

[SafeBet]

What are the gradients on the mountain top finishers on stages 5 & 8? Do these climbs only average about 4% or are they over 6% with some steeper sections?

You can find answers to most of your questions here, I believe: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=29315

 

[May0maniac]

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Contador's team is stacked as ****. If all of them are on decent shape contador will have 4 guys with the last 20,30 riders.

Kreuziger is in really good shape, he can easily top 5 if he rode for himself.

Yep, it looks very strong. You could say the same about Sky as well though - some very strong riders there. Etixx look significantly weaker than those two, so Uran could be very vulnerable if he has to try to defend the Maglia Rosa after the time trial.

I have to agree, Uran's team is much weaker, Astana on the other hand should also be very strong in the mountains.

 

[DBotero]

Seems like Grosu didn't make it to the Giro after all.I'm glad that Tvetcov got his chance.Impressive team for Sky,i wasn't expecting both Sioutsou and Kyryienka,poor Viviani got only Puccio.Very weak team for Uran,i don't think he's to happy