Giro d'Italia 2017 rumours - Il Centesimo

[Brullnux]

It should be Milan. Not because of bias, but because it's the birthplace of la gazzetta and so the Giro, where the first Giro started and ended. Rome's great, but Milan should be the fnish place.

 

[jsem94]

Really disappointed so far. But the riders will make the race. Plenty will be motivated.

 

[42x16ss]

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I highly doubt Kittel is gonna be at the Giro anyway. Since he messed up his Tour preparation this year when he hit his absolute peak shape at the Giro rather than the Tour. Same goes for Greipel who's certainly gonna be on a low-level at the Giro like in 2015. As Cofidis ain't likely to get a Giro wildcard I expect Gaviria to be the major sprint force in next year's race. Actually he could very well go for the pink jersey on stage 1 as well as for the stage win in stage 3. And he'd stay in the race until the very end in order to win the red jersey. So Etixx's certainly gonna give him a decent train to work for him. He's a great prospect after all and he's ready to rumble next spring.

The advantage for Gaviria is that he isn't the best sprinter of his team. Etixx doesn't need him for the Tour so they will probably let him ride the whole giro while Kittel will go to the tdf.

Yes, exactly. Against Modolo, Nizzolo, Viviani and a weak Greipel (or Hofland) he should be the favorite in the sprints. At least on paper!

It may also depend on what Ewan is doing and how may resources Orica put toward GC.

 

[Sciocco]

For the first three days I don't really mind it as the expectations could have easily been two very flat stages and a TTT. I will hold out some hope that stage two will have slight modifications done between now and May 6th (?) that'll lead to a more interesting final 50km or so.

 

[gregrowlerson]

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For the first three days I don't really mind it as the expectations could have easily been two very flat stages and a TTT. I will hold out some hope that stage two will have slight modifications done between now and May 6th (?) that'll lead to a more interesting final 50km or so.

This.

Not sure what else people were expecting. The dolomites on the first weekend?

All looks okay to me.

 

[yaco]

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I highly doubt Kittel is gonna be at the Giro anyway. Since he messed up his Tour preparation this year when he hit his absolute peak shape at the Giro rather than the Tour. Same goes for Greipel who's certainly gonna be on a low-level at the Giro like in 2015. As Cofidis ain't likely to get a Giro wildcard I expect Gaviria to be the major sprint force in next year's race. Actually he could very well go for the pink jersey on stage 1 as well as for the stage win in stage 3. And he'd stay in the race until the very end in order to win the red jersey. So Etixx's certainly gonna give him a decent train to work for him. He's a great prospect after all and he's ready to rumble next spring.

The advantage for Gaviria is that he isn't the best sprinter of his team. Etixx doesn't need him for the Tour so they will probably let him ride the whole giro while Kittel will go to the tdf.

Yes, exactly. Against Modolo, Nizzolo, Viviani and a weak Greipel (or Hofland) he should be the favorite in the sprints. At least on paper!

It may also depend on what Ewan is doing and how may resources Orica put toward GC.

Think the Giro is the most likely option for Ewan in 2017 - Dovetails well with him riding more of a classics program in 2017 - Big resources will go into the TDF and a 2016 Vuelta parcours will rule out Ewan.

 

[Miburo]

When will giro route be announced?

 

[Eshnar]

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When will giro route be announced?

October 25th

 

[Miburo]

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When will giro route be announced?

October 25th

Wow that long? After the tour? Any reason why?

 

[Eshnar]

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When will giro route be announced?

October 25th

Wow that long? After the tour? Any reason why?

nothing official, besides the obvious speculation "RCS recently changed owner and everything got messed up/delayed"

 

[Eshnar]

A local article today claimed that the finish in Bagno di Romagna (that I haven't heard anything about anymore, so I was starting to doubt it) will be on May 17th, which means stage 11. According to the same source, stage 12 will be Forli' - Reggio Emilia.

All in all I'm pretty sure the Giro will finish in the east. Not 100% though. The ITT is still very unsure, but I'm not confident at all about Franciacorta anymore. It might be on stage 9-10 instead, in central Italy. Many sources agree on the penultimate weekend being Tortona - Oropa - Bergamo, so I would rule out anything else in the west. Tortona might even be a ITT though.
In the east, there was an article claiming the stage after Piancavallo, starting from Pordenone, will be flat, and the following stage will start from Sedico and head into the Dolomites. If that's the case, I would think Piancavallo might come the day after the Stelvio. Still not sure about the additional Dolomite stage. I'll go for the Tre Cime atm.

1 Alghero - Olbia *****
2 Olbia - Tormoli' *****
3 Tormoli' - Cagliari *****
rest
4 ??? - Messina ***
5 ??? - Terme Luigiane ***
6 Terme Luigiane? - Alberobello ***
7 Molfetta - Peschici **
8 ??? - Terminillo ***
9 ??? - Pistoia ***
rest
10 ??? - Gualdo Tesino? ITT? **
11 Perugia - Bagno di Romagna ***
12 Forli' - Reggio Emilia ***
13 ??? - Tortona ITT? ****
14 Castellania - Oropa ****
15 Andorno - Bergamo ****
rest
16 ??? - Stelvio ****
17 ??? - Piancavallo ****
18 Pordenone - Treviso? **
19 Sedico - Tre Cime? **
20 ??? - Pordoi ****
21 Venezia ITT? **

 

[The Hitch]

Terminillo stage 8. That brings back some memories. the worst stage of the best gt

 

[Eshnar]

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Terminillo stage 8. That brings back some memories. the worst stage of the best gt

true

 

[mikii4567]

How certain are you that the end will be in Venice? Given stage 21 could be a short ITT, would they not be able to go to Milan?

Other than that, it may not actually be that bad of a route. Like the others, though, I hope the Terminillo stage is better than that of a certain year, though given the earthquake that just struck there, some local passes may not have the best quality roads...

EDIT: also, stages 19+20 could be awesome. I'd love to finally see the Giau-Tre Croci-Tre Cime combo, just like the altered 2013 stage, and then Fedaia-Pordoi on the penultimate day. EPIC!

EDIT2: remember, stage 17 is due to start in Tirano

 

[Eshnar]

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How certain are you that the end will be in Venice? Given stage 21 could be a short ITT, would they not be able to go to Milan?

I gave it only two stars. As a matter of fact, could be Venice, Milan or Rome. ITT or road stage. We know nothing.

EDIT2: remember, stage 17 is due to start in Tirano

It was rumoured so, yes, but it can always have changed. There's no way to go from Tirano to Piancavallo with an acceptable stage length. I would say they could start from SüdTirol.

 

[Valv.Piti]

The route looks extremely back loaded so far

 

[TromleTromle]

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The route looks extremely back loaded so far

Well "crescendo" is an italian word after all....

But still we have three different set-up for the GT's

Giro - Slowly rising build-up into a last week bonanza madness
Tour - Zzzzleepy weekday stages (ok the managed to shake things up a fair bit Post-Lance) and promising profiled weekend mountain stages for the TV-viewer (but nothing happens anyway)
Vuelta - Insert random murito on a random raceday apporach

Guess the Giro approach is not bad after all...

 

[Kyllingen86]

I am newly registered on this site and like everybody else writing in this thread eagerly awaiting for news on next years route.

I have some questions:


1. Concerning Sicily - are there any rumours that suggest Mount Etna could be used for something? A bold choice could be an MTT on Etna. Or any reason why it is certain it wont be on the 2017 Giro-route?


2. Concerning Zoncolan - is it possible it could future not as a mountaintop-finish but rather as a climb on the route for an instance on a stage finishing at Tre Cime di Lavaredo?


3. Are there any rumours of a MTT? I feel like it has almost become a tradition that with a giro belongs a tough MTT just as the Vuelta is synonym with a TTT.

 

[Eshnar]

I am newly registered on this site and like everybody else writing in this thread eagerly awaiting for news on next years route.

I have some questions:


1. Concerning Sicily - are there any rumours that suggest Mount Etna could be used for something? A bold choice could be an MTT on Etna. Or any reason why it is certain it wont be on the 2017 Giro-route?


2. Concerning Zoncolan - is it possible it could future not as a mountaintop-finish but rather as a climb on the route for an instance on a stage finishing at Tre Cime di Lavaredo?


3. Are there any rumours of a MTT? I feel like it has almost become a tradition that with a giro belongs a tough MTT just as the Vuelta is synonym with a TTT.

welcome

1. No, all sources pointing at Sicily do NOT ever mention Mt.Etna. There is the outside chance that the Sicilian stage could be a ITT (very unlikely), but if it was up the Etna we would know it already.

2. There will be no Zoncolan or thereabouts in 2017. This was stated multiple times by E.Cainero, the guy who proposes and organizes all stages in the Friuli region. They chose Piancavallo.

3. There have been no rumours mentioning a MTT, although I cannot rule it out. There was none in 2015 and 2012, so it's not really a fixed feature.

 

[Kyllingen86]

Eshnar@

Thanks!

I guess including all the mythical mountains in one giro is all but a dream . Looking at the bright side hopefully Zoncolan will be back next year perhaps even with Crostis as its predecessor.

Is the stage on Sicily highly likely to just be one for the sprinters? In that case a bit boring but securing the participation of Nibali is crucial I guess. I fear once again what the giro will lack is a strong field of GC-contenders.

I am a bit disappointed about the low possibility of a MTT - for a centenary Giro I would expect a surprise or two to make it "special" but cancelling the MTT is certainly a negative surprise for me.

Most of the mountainstages seems to be with MTF's - will there be mountainous stages finishing with descents?

And finally concerning the lombardian-like stage I assume Il Ghisallo will be included but what about Mura di Sormano?

 

[May0maniac]

The lombardia-like stage will probably be pretty similar to this years Lombardia route, so after a MTF and right before the rest day we could get some fireworks.

 

[Eshnar]

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Eshnar@

Thanks!

I guess including all the mythical mountains in one giro is all but a dream . Looking at the bright side hopefully Zoncolan will be back next year perhaps even with Crostis as its predecessor.

Is the stage on Sicily highly likely to just be one for the sprinters? In that case a bit boring but securing the participation of Nibali is crucial I guess. I fear once again what the giro will lack is a strong field of GC-contenders.

I am a bit disappointed about the low possibility of a MTT - for a centenary Giro I would expect a surprise or two to make it "special" but cancelling the MTT is certainly a negative surprise for me.

Most of the mountainstages seems to be with MTF's - will there be mountainous stages finishing with descents?

And finally concerning the lombardian-like stage I assume Il Ghisallo will be included but what about Mura di Sormano?

Well the Zoncolan can be called many ways, but mythical, no. there are many climbs much more important than that in the Giro history.

The Sicilian stage could be quite hilly. If it ends in Messina in particular.

Personally I hate MTTs, so all good for me. There are definitely too many MTFs in spite of descent finishes... Bagno di Romagna could be the only one, but also the stages to Bergamo and Terme Luigiane will most likely have descents very close to the finish.

I do not think Sormano would be in... it would also be quite pointless, and very, very far from the finish.

 

[Red Rick]

Venice water cycle tt?

 

[Eshnar]

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Venice water cycle tt?

More like Venice boat bridge tt

 

[Maaaaaaaarten]

Hopefully they'll just take the boat from Cagliari to Palermo and do a 260km Palermo-Messina stage. That could be epic .