Giro d'Italia 2017 STAGE 21: Monza – Milano 29.3 km ITT

[Hugo Koblet]

I thought they said that the Giro didn't end with a parade stage.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

LOL 'goes downhill'.

There are wide flat roads, it doesn't go more downhill then what. 0.02%

Don't forget Dumoulin took 50 seconds of his time in the 1st tt to Quintana on the FLAT first bit. (avg 57km/h). Even if we factor in fatigue etc, Quintana is never going to hold.

You have to look to Nibali, and more likely, to Pinot. Pinot is the underrated dangerman here. But even then, 10s is not a lot for Pinot to hold on either.
It's going to be a thriller.

 

[Rollthedice]

Quintana to start signaling with his elbow after the first km just to realize he's on his own now.

 

[Andro]

Dumoulin 90 % to win the Giro, Quintana/Nibali/Pinot the last 10 % spread between them.

 

[Red Rick]

Dumoulin is 10-0 in TTs versus Nibali, and something like 9-3 in TTs vs Pinot with the only ones he lost were MTTs or very hilly TTs. Same for Quintana, got the required s/km in every flat TT except for one.

 

[Velolover2]

Re: Re:

My predictions:
Quintana (with 1s)
Dumoulin
Nibali.

Impossible for Quintana not to lose a minute on Dumoulin unless he crashes.

I think that this TT course suits Quintana more than the first one because it is easier, shorter and goes downhill. I think that off the GC favourites Dumoulin will win but not by big enough margin and just misses out with 1s. But my prediciton is half serious and half wish.

You mean 5% serious/95% wish, right?

Dumoulin was able to gain over a minute on peak Froome in the Tour on a hilly course. There is no way Quintana will only lose 50 secs to Big Tom on a 1% false downhill all the way to the finish. This is for the big power horses.

 

[SafeBet]

I ride on these roads pretty much every day going to work. Don't get fooled by the profile, it's not downhill, it's a flat course. And it's mostly on wide roads with very few technical turns. The end is probably the only technical section, with a bit of cobbles when they get close to the Duomo.

 

[luckyboy]

Re:

LOL 'goes downhill'.

There are wide flat roads, it doesn't go more downhill then what. 0.02%

Don't forget Dumoulin took 50 seconds of his time in the 1st tt to Quintana on the FLAT first bit. (avg 57km/h). Even if we factor in fatigue etc, Quintana is never going to hold.

You have to look to Nibali, and more likely, to Pinot. Pinot is the underrated dangerman here. But even then, 10s is not a lot for Pinot to hold on either.
It's going to be a thriller.

You say all that and then conclude it will be a thriller? :Question:

Maybe if it was 15km

 

[spalco]

It's looking good for Dumoulin, but he still needs one more maybe not exceptional, but at least really strong performance here, no crash and no mechanical. And there's a question mark over his recovery of course. I wouldn't be too shocked if Nibali pulls this out, or Quintana makes an excellent TT, or even Pinot. Crazier things have happened.

 

[Andro]

Dumoulin doesn't need a 'really strong' performance. He needs a very average(for him) time trial and then he wins easily.

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

When was the last time (if it has ever happened) that a rider came from 4th or lower to win a GT on the last day?

 

[RattaKuningas]

Re: Re:

My predictions:
Quintana (with 1s)
Dumoulin
Nibali.

Impossible for Quintana not to lose a minute on Dumoulin unless he crashes.

I think that this TT course suits Quintana more than the first one because it is easier, shorter and goes downhill. I think that off the GC favourites Dumoulin will win but not by big enough margin and just misses out with 1s. But my prediciton is half serious and half wish.

You mean 5% serious/95% wish, right?

Dumoulin was able to gain over a minute on peak Froome in the Tour on a hilly course. There is no way Quintana will only lose 50 secs to Big Tom on a 1% false downhill all the way to the finish. This is for the big power horses.

Well in 2015 vuelta a espana he lost 1 minute and 38 seconds to Dumoulin on a 38km flat TT so it's not impossible I think. Depends on the course and the fatigue.

 

[SafeBet]

Cassani says Dumoulin can lose the jersey to Quintana only if he has 5 punctures.

 

[Red Rick]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1W3rEQzWG38Op-JtLq3_InDJJ4u883q2xRVxHJjGYJAo/edit#gid=1023503256

 

[Gloin22]

Re: Re:

My predictions:
Quintana (with 1s)
Dumoulin
Nibali.

Impossible for Quintana not to lose a minute on Dumoulin unless he crashes.

I think that this TT course suits Quintana more than the first one because it is easier, shorter and goes downhill. I think that off the GC favourites Dumoulin will win but not by big enough margin and just misses out with 1s. But my prediciton is half serious and half wish.

You mean 5% serious/95% wish, right?

Dumoulin was able to gain over a minute on peak Froome in the Tour on a hilly course. There is no way Quintana will only lose 50 secs to Big Tom on a 1% false downhill all the way to the finish. This is for the big power horses.

Well in 2015 vuelta a espana he lost 1 minute and 38 seconds to Dumoulin on a 38km flat TT so it's not impossible I think. Depends on the course and the fatigue.

Nairo was in great shape in last week of that Vuelta, here he looks a shade of himself,

 

[staubsauger]

Re:

Cassani says Dumoulin can lose the jersey to Quintana only if he has 5 punctures.

Luckily he's not riding for Rabobank! :lol:

 

[RattaKuningas]

Re: Re:

Impossible for Quintana not to lose a minute on Dumoulin unless he crashes.

I think that this TT course suits Quintana more than the first one because it is easier, shorter and goes downhill. I think that off the GC favourites Dumoulin will win but not by big enough margin and just misses out with 1s. But my prediciton is half serious and half wish.

You mean 5% serious/95% wish, right?

Dumoulin was able to gain over a minute on peak Froome in the Tour on a hilly course. There is no way Quintana will only lose 50 secs to Big Tom on a 1% false downhill all the way to the finish. This is for the big power horses.

Well in 2015 vuelta a espana he lost 1 minute and 38 seconds to Dumoulin on a 38km flat TT so it's not impossible I think. Depends on the course and the fatigue.

Nairo was in great shape in last week of that Vuelta, here he looks a shade of himself,

Dumoulin is definitely going to be a little bit weaker than in first TT as well. I have no illusions and I know that Dumoulin is going to win this and more likely than not he is going to overtake Quintana but I am saying that Quintana has a chance if he does a very good TT. We can clearly see that Dumoulin has been very fatigued last two stages.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Re: Re:

LOL 'goes downhill'.

There are wide flat roads, it doesn't go more downhill then what. 0.02%

Don't forget Dumoulin took 50 seconds of his time in the 1st tt to Quintana on the FLAT first bit. (avg 57km/h). Even if we factor in fatigue etc, Quintana is never going to hold.

You have to look to Nibali, and more likely, to Pinot. Pinot is the underrated dangerman here. But even then, 10s is not a lot for Pinot to hold on either.
It's going to be a thriller.

You say all that and then conclude it will be a thriller? :Question:

Maybe if it was 15km

Because I believe Pinot will do much better than expected and come pretty close. I say Nibali, but I believe more in Pinot actually.

 

[Velolover2]

Final podium:
1. Tom
2. Pinot
3. Zakarin

 

[DanielSong39]

The Giro is done and dusted.

So, Dumoulin wins by a minute?

 

[BullsFan22]

What's the weather forecast for tomorrow? Surprised nobody has talked about this. If there is wind or rain or both, it could totally turn the final rankings upside down.

 

[Moviefan1203]

Re:

The Giro is done and dusted.

So, Dumoulin wins by a minute?

Depends how much he has left in the tank. Who is willing to go deepest tomorrow? Who is willing to go way, way beyond the red zone? Who has the most heart? What a perfect way to cap this Giro!

 

[hfer07]

1-) Tom Dumoulin

























2-) NIbali
3) Pinot

 

[ice&fire]

Re:

Cassani says Dumoulin can lose the jersey to Quintana only if he has 5 punctures.

How many punctures would he need for a bike throw Bjarne style?

 

[Anderis]

My wish for the overall GC:
1. Dumoulin
2. Zakarin
3. Pinot
Not completely unrealistic but I expect Nibali to save a podium spot TBH.