Giro d'Italia 2019 rumours

[Kyllingen86]

How exactly is Jesi better?

Are there some walls in the area or? In your opinion what could we expect with that change?

A solid medium mountain stage?

 

[Eshnar]

Jesi is at around 15 km from Filottrano, 20 from Cingoli, ~40 from Montelupone, Recanati, Macerata, etc... Towns with walls usually featured in TA.
Also, it's 60 km closer to the start, which means there is more room for going wherever you want.

 

[Red Rick]

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Jesi is at around 15 km from Filottrano, 20 from Cingoli, ~40 from Montelupone, Recanati, Macerata, etc... Towns with walls usually featured in TA.
Also, it's 60 km closer to the start, which means there is more room for going wherever you want.

Something like dis

 

[ice&fire]

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I must confess that Giro '12 stage to Porto Sant'Elpidio was pretty unremarkable compared to the one of Tirreno '13

 

[Eshnar]

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Something like dis

or sth like this

 

[Eshnar]

tonight Beppe Conti stated that Cuneo-Pinerolo will not go to France, will not climb Sestriere, but will still be "a spectacular route".
If we have to believe him, it means Finestre is in. Possibly Moncenisio - Finestre - Pramartino.
Either that, or he's trolling and the stage will be for sprinters

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Cuneo - Pinerolo, no France, no Sestrieres, but spectacular.

 

[Red Rick]

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Cuneo - Pinerolo, no France, no Sestrieres, but spectacular.

Isn't that like 5 descents that Vegni is afraid of.

I like that Montoso climb.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

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Cuneo - Pinerolo, no France, no Sestrieres, but spectacular.

Isn't that like 5 descents that Vegni is afraid of.

I like that Montoso climb.

With Prarostino the state of the climb is probably more the concern than the state of the descent. The first 750m or so of the descent are almost certainly too sketchy to use without significant repaving or widening or realistically both, but after that it's fine.

 

[Eshnar]

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Cuneo - Pinerolo, no France, no Sestrieres, but spectacular.

very possible. I mean, besides Fauniera, Sampeyre, and probably Prarostino.
But Montoso, very possible. Although it would be safer (for Vegni's standards) to descend towards Bagnolo, which would increase the distance from Pinerolo...

 

[Red Rick]

I'm starting to get the feeling that I really don't know enough about the climbs towards the foot of the main mountain ridges.

 

[Eshnar]

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I'm starting to get the feeling that I really don't know enough about the climbs towards the foot of the main mountain ridges.

you're a noob, just admit it
btw, on Cicloweb they are saying Sampeyre has been resurfaced recently, so who knows...

 

[Red Rick]

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I'm starting to get the feeling that I really don't know enough about the climbs towards the foot of the main mountain ridges.

you're a noob, just admit it
btw, on Cicloweb they are saying Sampeyre has been resurfaced recently, so who knows...

I readily admit I'm a noob, in most area's.

Spend way too much time designing *** stages in the Dolomites

And it was only the Demonte side of the Fauniera that Vegni considered too dangerous?

 

[Eshnar]

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I'm starting to get the feeling that I really don't know enough about the climbs towards the foot of the main mountain ridges.

you're a noob, just admit it
btw, on Cicloweb they are saying Sampeyre has been resurfaced recently, so who knows...

I readily admit I'm a noob, in most area's.

Spend way too much time designing *** stages in the Dolomites

And it was only the Demonte side of the Fauniera that Vegni considered too dangerous?

It was Demonte, yes, but make no mistake, all Fauniera sides are equally dangerous. Also, the northern side is (was?) in terrible conditions.

They are telling me the North side of Sampeyre is resurfaced, so it can be descended I think. The SW side is closed afaik, but the S side can be climbed without problems I think.

 

[Gregga]

I'm starting to get the feeling that I really don't know enough about the climbs towards the foot of the main mountain ridges.

you're a noob, just admit it
btw, on Cicloweb they are saying Sampeyre has been resurfaced recently, so who knows...

I readily admit I'm a noob, in most area's.

Spend way too much time designing *** stages in the Dolomites

And it was only the Demonte side of the Fauniera that Vegni considered too dangerous?

It was Demonte, yes, but make no mistake, all Fauniera sides are equally dangerous. Also, the northern side is (was?) in terrible conditions.

They are telling me the North side of Sampeyre is resurfaced, so it can be descended I think. The SW side is closed afaik, but the S side can be climbed without problems I think.

I think the East side of Fauniera (Pradleves) would be ok as a descent but climbing from Demonte wouldn't be that interesting, unless you came from Lombarda which isn't rumored for 2019
Regarding Sampeyre, my understanding is the North side has only been "repaired" (cost 60000€) from its potholes but not resurfaced. I can't imagine a pro peloton riding down there in 2019, unfortunately, as the Sampeyre-Agnello-Izoard trio as featured (but cancelled) in 1995 would really look good.
http://www.lastampa.it/2018/07/31/c...oto-e-bici-vBeuSNLxUFG6qlSLuoDPRM/pagina.html

 

[Red Rick]

Well if it helps you can go from Pradleves and skip about 1km of dangerous descent

Cmon Vegni, you know you want to

 

[ice&fire]

If I understand correctly from that link to La Stampa, the budget wasn't enough to cover all the potholes, so they did fix about 3/4 of them, including the worst ones. The road will be closed during the winter and the question to complete road works (I assume limited to the North side of Sampeyre) will be rediscussed next spring.

 

[Eshnar]

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If understand correctly from that link to La Stampa, the budget wasn't enough to cover all the potholes, so they did fix about 3/4 of them, including the worst ones. The road will be closed during the winter and the question to complete road works (I assume limited to the North side of Sampeyre) will be rediscussed next spring.

yes, that's what the article says. They told me something different, but I don't really know the current situation.
Either way, it was just to say that descending Sampeyre might be possible, although it would still not be likely even if the tarmac was perfect.... It's just a possibility I wanted to mention since I had ruled it out (maybe mistakenly) earlier.

 

[Max Rockatansky]

Eshnar, how believable is that three stages with 5.500 meters of climbing statement by Vegni. All the forums discussing the rumors seem to be obsessed by that statement and trying to cramp that into every stage design. At the end, it is just something he said. And to be honest, that guy talks a lot of stuff.

 

[Gigs_98]

I am confused
https://mobile.twitter.com/laflammerouge16/status/1053222318263201792

 

[Nirvana]

I think you should swap Sestriere with Finestre considering what Beppe Conti said yesterday.

 

[Sestriere]

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I think you should swap Sestriere with Finestre considering what Beppe Conti said yesterday.

But didn't Conti also say no France in Cuneo-Pinerolo?

 

[Nirvana]

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I think you should swap Sestriere with Finestre considering what Beppe Conti said yesterday.

But didn't Conti also say no France in Cuneo-Pinerolo?

Yesterday he didn't say anyrthing about France, he said that will be different from 1949 ones, there won't be Sestriere and will be "spectacular" (for this reason i think will be replaced by Finestre, i can't see something different work for long range action), anyway they could also make something only italian climbing something like Moncenisio before Finestre with an "easier" stage, the only thing i'm pretty sure is that there won't be Fauniera and Sampeyre, it's already strange to see Gavia with Vegni (and i won't be surprised if there will be Tonale instead).

Last week he talked about Lago Serru, i don't know if he said something in the previous week because Rai didn't upload them so i wasn't able to watch. But i don't rule out the fact that no France thing is only a misunderstanding on Vegni words whe he talked about San Marino.

 

[Red Rick]

Finestre again would be a world of lame.

 

[Max Rockatansky]

I am confused
https://mobile.twitter.com/laflammerouge16/status/1053222318263201792

That's from a local newspaper and this info was given the day before Conti ruled out Sestriere. Agnello is such a beast. This race would explode heavily. On the other hand, I don't think, they won't televise Cima Coppi or "waste" it somewhere. Not in 2019.