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This is a how a proper short mountain stage should look like, not the crap they usually pull in the Tour.
Eshnar said:Apparently today the Aostan regional RAI news spoiled the route of the stage to Courmayeur. It would be like this:
they report 135 km, so it is pretty accurate.
This is a how a proper short mountain stage should look like, not the crap they usually pull in the Tour.
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according to local article, the stage to Como would feature exactly the same finale of Lombardia starting from Ghisallo (included), but with the Colma instead of Muro di Sormano because of narrow road. PLUS the S.Fermo (which should be back to open by next year).
It looks like 240+km to me, so it's not super likely, but we'll see...
It looks like 240+km to me, so it's not super likely, but we'll see...
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according to local article the finale of the stage to Pinerolo will be a long loop, with the race hitting the cobbled wall of 2016 in the town before heading south to climb Montoso (from Bibiana, as it's safer to descend the other side, as I was guessing) and then back to Pinerolo and the aforementioned wall. Basically something like the 2016 stage, but with Montoso instead of Pramartino. The first half of the stage will be spent in the area of Cuneo, so I expect Madonna del Colletto and Montemale to be in.
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Nice route, as usually is the case with the Giro. Some honorable stages and postcard landscapes. Short transfers and the time trials that shouldn't chase the climbers away. Should attract good field, but will be a tough choice between the Italy and France for many.
If he manages to find the form from several years ago, Aru will be a strong contender. Nibali will be tempted by the course, too, I think. Entirety of the race on the Italian mainland (no detours to the neighbourhood?), if I've got it right, may bring the same spirit in the battle, as well... The islanders racing for the land.
If he manages to find the form from several years ago, Aru will be a strong contender. Nibali will be tempted by the course, too, I think. Entirety of the race on the Italian mainland (no detours to the neighbourhood?), if I've got it right, may bring the same spirit in the battle, as well... The islanders racing for the land.
What do we think of the rumours that the Ponte di Legno stage will actually finish on Passo Tonale rather than in the town itself (of course after the lap of Gavia and Mortirolo)?
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I don't think much of it, pretty much all rumours point at the town and not the pass. They do seem to be looking for little climbs/walls in the area (more like the Muro del Gatto of Corvara 2016), but definitely not a full pass. But I guess it's possible that the finish could be somewhere a bit above the town, on the road to Tonale, for space reasons.Sestriere said:
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It's never fine to have 3 ITT's in a GT, especially seeing these are shorter ITT's - It doesn't make for a great spectacle.
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It's better to have 3 ITTs than additional sprint stages.
2 of them have an uphill finish and should be great to watch, but ITT are mainly abou creating gaps and forcin the climbers to attack on the mountain stages, so that those stages become more exciting to watch.
yaco said:
It's better to have 3 ITTs than additional sprint stages.
2 of them have an uphill finish and should be great to watch, but ITT are mainly abou creating gaps and forcin the climbers to attack on the mountain stages, so that those stages become more exciting to watch.
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Nothwithstanding that 2 of the ITT's have an uphill bent, surely three IT's is overkill and could be 2 ITT's - After all we are discussing barely more than 50 kms of overall TT - What a waste of a stage.
Mayomaniac said:yaco said:
It's better to have 3 ITTs than additional sprint stages.
2 of them have an uphill finish and should be great to watch, but ITT are mainly abou creating gaps and forcin the climbers to attack on the mountain stages, so that those stages become more exciting to watch.
Nothwithstanding that 2 of the ITT's have an uphill bent, surely three IT's is overkill and could be 2 ITT's - After all we are discussing barely more than 50 kms of overall TT - What a waste of a stage.
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Nothing will ever beat the rained out 2014 Vuelta epilogueyaco said:Mayomaniac said:yaco said:
It's better to have 3 ITTs than additional sprint stages.
2 of them have an uphill finish and should be great to watch, but ITT are mainly abou creating gaps and forcin the climbers to attack on the mountain stages, so that those stages become more exciting to watch.
Nothwithstanding that 2 of the ITT's have an uphill bent, surely three IT's is overkill and could be 2 ITT's - After all we are discussing barely more than 50 kms of overall TT - What a waste of a stage.
It looks like the Frascati stage has that classic Frascati hilly ending. That's 4k @ 4,5%. This hill was used in the 1955 world championships. A nine hour slaughterfest at 40+ degrees in late August.
They really could and should use some of that Appia Antica cobbles, which are close to Frascati.
La Gazzetta just confirmed the Verona ITT.
They really could and should use some of that Appia Antica cobbles, which are close to Frascati.
La Gazzetta just confirmed the Verona ITT.
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yeah, somebody at Rai was probablly drunk when he wrote about Milan.Max Rockatansky said:It looks like the Frascati stage has that classic Frascati hilly ending. That's 4k @ 4,5%. This hill was used in the 1955 world championships. A nine hour slaughterfest at 40+ degrees in late August.
They really could and should use some of that Appia Antica cobbles, which are close to Frascati.
La Gazzetta just confirmed the Verona ITT.
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Back in the day they actually used the really nasty sections Via Appia Antica cobbles in the Giro del Lazio, here's a short video of the race in 1993: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJUZOJeJ6ggMax Rockatansky said:It looks like the Frascati stage has that classic Frascati hilly ending. That's 4k @ 4,5%. This hill was used in the 1955 world championships. A nine hour slaughterfest at 40+ degrees in late August.
They really could and should use some of that Appia Antica cobbles, which are close to Frascati.
La Gazzetta just confirmed the Verona ITT.
That's some cobbles. Patrick Lefevere to riot.
https://twitter.com/MatthewMattia/status/1057560500358336512
70,000 people are without electricity due to catastrophic floods. The road to Passo Manghen is gone.
https://twitter.com/MatthewMattia/status/1057560500358336512
70,000 people are without electricity due to catastrophic floods. The road to Passo Manghen is gone.
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Yes, probably the biggest catastrophic floods that the Dolomites have seen in the last few decades.Max Rockatansky said:That's some cobbles. Patrick Lefevere to riot.
https://twitter.com/MatthewMattia/status/1057560500358336512
70,000 people are without electricity due to catastrophic floods. The road to Passo Manghen is gone.
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