Giro d'Italia 2019 rumours

[Devil's Elbow]

Ravenna, Modena and Carpi in week 2 makes a lot of sense actually. Shame Rapallo seems to be out, but then again the draft had three sprint stages to follow the prologue which seems impossible now. I also like both TTs although if you're going to have three of them, at least one should be flat.

Also, no time check on the San Luca TT?

 

[Eshnar]

ok here I am.

So, the fact that the Ravenna - Modena stage was coming in week 2 had actually already been said by Beppe Conti, but we all thought he was rambling as usual

This means there is a lot more time in the first week, so I can put back in some stages I discarded. In particular, I'm curious for stage 2. It might finish in Vinci (where stage 3 should start) or somewhere else in Tuscany, so possibilities are endless.

As for week 2, we have one big problem. From Novi Ligure to Cuneo there are 150 km of country roads or 200 km of highway. Either way, a very long transfer. That is why I thought that the news claiming that Novi Ligure would come in between Pinerolo and Courmayeur were real. Problem is, We still don't know how they are going to Cuneo in the first place. They will start stage 11 from Carpi (as per official announcement), and they should start stage 12 in Cuneo... a freaking long way. And there are no rumoured finishes in the area. The only one was Rapallo, which is simply too far from Cuneo to be an option. The only way for it to be in, would be to have Novi Ligure before Cuneo, which is unlikely (for the above reasons), but still possible I guess. I would rule it out, but you can never know. It's a shame because a finish there would have had a huge potential.

Bolded are the official locations.

1. Bologna - S.Luca (8.2 km ITT)
2. Bologna - Vinci (??)
3. Vinci - Orbetello
4. Orbetello - Frascati
5. Sabaudia - Cassino(??)
6. ??? - S.Giovanni Rotondo(?)
7. Vasto - L'Aquila
8. Tortoreto Lido - Gualdo Tadino (??)
9. Riccione - S.Marino (34.7 km ITT)
rest
10 Ravenna - Modena
11 Carpi - ???
12 Cuneo - Pinerolo
13 Pinerolo - Novi Ligure
14 Ivrea - Courmayeur
15 St. Vincent - Como(or surroundings)
rest
16 ??? - Ponte di Legno
17 Val di Sole - Anterselva
18 Dobbiacco - S. Maria di Sala
19 Treviso - S. Martino di Castrozza
20 Feltre - Passo Croce d'Aune
21 Verona - Verona (15 km ITT)

 

[Laplaz]

Re: Giro d'Italia 2019 rumors

Are these the new official profiles of RCS? Looks oldschool.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Either that, or the Cuneo-Pinerolo stage is on the second Friday after all with a finish in Novi Ligure and a finish in the vicinity of Cuneo preceding it. Which seems more logical despite the source that says stage 13 is Pinerolo-Novi Ligure.

 

[Eshnar]

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Either that, or the Cuneo-Pinerolo stage is on the second Friday after all with a finish in Novi Ligure and a finish in the vicinity of Cuneo preceding it. Which seems more logical despite the source that says stage 13 is Pinerolo-Novi Ligure.

that's also possible, but it would be weird because we have zero rumours about that stage.

Are these the new official profiles of RCS? Looks oldschool.

Probably just provisional.

 

[Gigs_98]

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So 3 ITTs.

No flat ITTs.

Verona ITT is the same as in 2010, correct?

San Marino is a freaking monster

Mountain stages better be great to balance the route.

Seems like the Giro is gonna have the way better route for Dumoulin. AGAIN

It's not that extreme. 35 kilometers long, the climb starts with 12.5 to go but not all of what's left is uphill. Time differences will be big, but as both the stage 1 and the stage 21 TT's won't be that long the route doesn't need that much climbing to be balanced. That said, I obviously hope for super hard mountain stages anyway

 

[Red Rick]

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So 3 ITTs.

No flat ITTs.

Verona ITT is the same as in 2010, correct?

San Marino is a freaking monster

Mountain stages better be great to balance the route.

Seems like the Giro is gonna have the way better route for Dumoulin. AGAIN

It's not that extreme. 35 kilometers long, the climb starts with 12.5 to go but not all of what's left is uphill. Time differences will be big, but as both the stage 1 and the stage 21 TT's won't be that long the route doesn't need that much climbing to be balanced. That said, I obviously hope for super hard mountain stages anyway

The climb favours the better rouleurs among GC men immensely. That stage is a good 50 minutes, and the gradient never really favours climbers.

Gaps will be huge.

 

[mikii4567]

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Either that, or the Cuneo-Pinerolo stage is on the second Friday after all with a finish in Novi Ligure and a finish in the vicinity of Cuneo preceding it. Which seems more logical despite the source that says stage 13 is Pinerolo-Novi Ligure.

that's also possible, but it would be weird because we have zero rumours about that stage.

Did you put Cuneo-Pinerolo as 12 because of rumours, or just how it slotted in? Any chance of Cuneo-Pinerolo being 13, Ivrea (100 kms away, 1hr by motorway)-Courmayeur being 14 and St.Vincent - Como being 15? (or am I just making up implausible theories? )

 

[Red Rick]

What kind of stage would Novi Ligure be anyway?

 

[Eshnar]

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Either that, or the Cuneo-Pinerolo stage is on the second Friday after all with a finish in Novi Ligure and a finish in the vicinity of Cuneo preceding it. Which seems more logical despite the source that says stage 13 is Pinerolo-Novi Ligure.

that's also possible, but it would be weird because we have zero rumours about that stage.

Did you put Cuneo-Pinerolo as 12 because of rumours, or just how it slotted in? Any chance of Cuneo-Pinerolo being 13, Ivrea (100 kms away, 1hr by motorway)-Courmayeur being 14 and St.Vincent - Como being 15? (or am I just making up implausible theories? )

that is the second chance that I mentioned. But it implies that Novi Ligure is the end of stage 12, and as I mentioned, from Novi to Cuneo the transfer is really long. At least two hours. It seems weird.

What kind of stage would Novi Ligure be anyway?

Dunno. Probably hillish finale but nothing big.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

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With 3 TT's they simply need to design some proper Dolomites stages to level out the course!

The mountains don't exactly need to be brutal to balance out the TT mileage, since two of the TTs finish with a climb. The total TT mileage likely won't exceed the length of the Valdobbiadene TT in 2015.

 

[rghysens]

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With 3 TT's they simply need to design some proper Dolomites stages to level out the course!

The mountains don't exactly need to be brutal to balance out the TT mileage, since two of the TTs finish with a climb. The total TT mileage likely won't exceed the length of the Valdobbiadene TT in 2015.

And the 3rd itt contains a climb (about 3.5km @ 6%, iirc) while it's only about 16km long.

 

[Red Rick]

Now watch this route be better then Dumoulin's wildest dreams only for him to go to the Tour.

 

[Rollthedice]

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Now watch this route be better then Dumoulin's wildest dreams only for him to go to the Tour.

I got the impression he enjoyed the double so double the double.

 

[Red Rick]

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Now watch this route be better then Dumoulin's wildest dreams only for him to go to the Tour.

I got the impression he enjoyed the double so double the double.

No World Cup wonder week extra this time.

 

[May0maniac]

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Now watch this route be better then Dumoulin's wildest dreams only for him to go to the Tour.

I got the impression he enjoyed the double so double the double.

No World Cup wonder week extra this time.

Yes and the Giro also starts one week later.

 

[Red Rick]

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Now watch this route be better then Dumoulin's wildest dreams only for him to go to the Tour.

I got the impression he enjoyed the double so double the double.

No World Cup wonder week extra this time.

Yes and the Giro also starts one week later.

That seems to be the reason.

The Tour is only moving back one day.

 

[kiszol]

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Now watch this route be better then Dumoulin's wildest dreams only for him to go to the Tour.

If the Tour route won't really favour him maybe he indeed tries the double again. With this route at the Giro he would be a big favourite to win and he can try the Tour again as a bonus. Or indeed skip the Tour completely and go for the Giro + Vuelta double. Anyway I think he really wants to win the Tour (and beating Froome to it) so it will be a difficult choice.

 

[Gigs_98]

Re: Giro d'Italia 2019 rumors

I just can't see Dumoulin trying the double again. Last year he might have thought, the giro route suits him better, he likes the giro, so why not go to there again, he still has enough time to focus to the tour. But at some point he will stop delaying his focus on the tour and go all in for yellow. The significance a tour triumph has to his palmares and legacy is just too big to ignore.

 

[Red Rick]

Re: Giro d'Italia 2019 rumors

I just can't see Dumoulin trying the double again. Last year he might have thought, the giro route suits him better, he likes the giro, so why not go to there again, he still has enough time to focus to the tour. But at some point he will stop delaying his focus on the tour and go all in for yellow. The significance a tour triumph has to his palmares and legacy is just too big to ignore.

It's frustrating


But if any race deserves being *** at it's the Tour right now

 

[Robert5091]

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http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/201...-with-tough-individual-time-trial-in-bologna/
We'll all be glued to our TVs for stage 10 :lol:

God damnit, I only remembered stage 10 was supposed to finish in Rapallo and got really hyped when I read your comment. There are no words to describe my disappointment after clicking on that link

Sorry! The lol should have given you a hint. It's only 147 km so let us be glad for that. When the Giro does a flat stage though, it really does a flat stage. (stage 12 in 2016 was another doozy)

 

[movingtarget]

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Now watch this route be better then Dumoulin's wildest dreams only for him to go to the Tour.

I got the impression he enjoyed the double so double the double.

Nah I think he will be all Tour in 2019 like Quintana. Landa will do the Giro, Porte should do the same but won't of course. Trek will expect him to do the Tour.

 

[Robert5091]

Froome's supposed to go for TdF so he'll have the A team with him, so Tommy D should really do the Giro. Mind you Yates is supposed to have another go.

 

[Red Rick]

Froome really shouldn't affect Dumoulin's decision. At all.

 

[Climbing]

I think Thomas, Yates, Nibali, Landa are the ones that most likely will go for the Giro.