That's it. And if Hindley stayed back with Kelderman, Hart would be leading the Giro and have another stage winNeither were. Or Kelderman wouldn't be in pink.
That's it. And if Hindley stayed back with Kelderman, Hart would be leading the Giro and have another stage winNeither were. Or Kelderman wouldn't be in pink.
I missed the whole descent, valley and the very early part of the last climb because of work stuff, but would I be right that TGH didn't do any work before then and it was all Dennis on the front (except the sprint)?The steep part near the start. Probably not in the first meter, but if TGH isn't going all out you can't wait that long either.
Hindley rode it correctly, while Hart rode the final climb as easily as he could get away withExactly. Which was why I think he went full out for it. But...his opponent had a 50k leadout
Consider it revenge for PiancovalloI do think that Hindley should have at least tried an attack near the end of the last climb
After the time trial I'll let you know if it was the right strategy!To be honest, even in hindsight I think there's no way to tell whether it was the right call.
I mean this is Sunweb we're talking about. It's not the time to pick favourites when you can just win a Grand Tour.I don't get all the people questioning Sunweb's tactic.
I mean, they have 2 riders, one of them is younger and staying with the team, the other is older and leaving. Of course they will back Hindley.
Well, who's to say that Hindley won't win the Giro or Sunweb won't even get 1-2?I mean this is Sunweb we're talking about. It's not the time to pick favourites when you can just win a Grand Tour.
Hindley had better conditions during the first time trial than Kelderman did. Hindley may well win the Giro, but I can't see him beat Kelderman on the ITT without accidents for the latter.I think Sunweb made the right move today, as I view Hindley as the better prospect for the overall win, as he is arguably a better TTer than both Kelderman and Hart, based on both current form and the TT of similar length that opened the race.
Fair enough, I forgot to account for the shifting weather that day.Hindley had better conditions during the first time trial than Kelderman did. Hindley may well win the Giro, but I can't see him beat Kelderman on the ITT without accidents for the latter.
It's not the jacket that is the problem, it's the fatigue... any dummy can put on a jacket under normal circumstancesOnly place they went horribly wrong was their jackets. They need a new jacket supplier. Other than that the tactics were ok.
All that tells us is that if Kelderman had sat up on the Stelvio descent, and waited for Bilbao and Fuglsang (who actually seemed to be working well together until Bilbao took off), he might have finished within a minute of TGH and now have a comfortable lead in pink.I see now that Hindley/TGH did the final climb over a minute slower than Bilbao? Yeah Sunweb would be so much worse off if Hindley had waited.
I wonder how many of the people moaning about Sunwebs tactics, that used to think it was wrong for Froome to be ordered to wait for Wiggins that year in the Tour?Sunweb called it correctly today and the proof is they have 2 riders in first and 2nd place.
Kelderman was ridden off the wheel on the Stelvio . Who is to say bringing Hindley back would mean that Kelderman would not crack and then sunweb would be no where and with nothing
Luke Roberts Sunweb DS said they as a team discussed each scenario before the stage including the scenario that actually happened and they agreed what would happen and Kelderman knew the score . This sounds like Sunweb they cross every t and dot every i
If Kelderman is good enough to win the Giro as the Dutch think then he is in a very good position to do so...He is in pink , has an easier climbing stage to come and a TT of which he is the best of the 4 top GC guys
Maybe stop moaning and get on with it
Tell me again why he is leaving Sunweb as they have helped him to here
Hindley waited too long to put it on and the wind was blowing it off his shoulder. Dennis and Hart were smart enough to do it before they crested the StelvioIt's not the jacket that is the problem, it's the fatigue... any dummy can put on a jacket under normal circumstances![]()
Well that was just a silly decision. The only thing that accomplished was to keep Nibali in the race.I wonder how many of the people moaning about Sunwebs tactics, that used to think it was wrong for Froome to be ordered to wait for Wiggins that year in the Tour?![]()
Reading this thread late in the evening after watching both The Giro and Vuelta on full replays from streams... If I was here when you wrote and was watching it live I would have said "What you want someone to die of Alcohol Poisoning?"The Brian Smith drinking game. Drink every time he suggests Tao should attack or Hindley drop back to help Kelderman
Didn't Tao win basically the same way couple days back? Certain Hindley pulling him all the way up the hill.what a wheelsucker win, awful
Glad that you were able to enjoy it. On the other hand, if it is now established that it is not you watching, but rather your participation in discussion here that condemns a race to tedious neutralising tactics, I hereby call for a ban, during racing hours at least.So just for the record I want to say that I did watch most of this stage, it's just that I watched it on my phone while I had other stuff to do on my pc. I only want to make sure this is not a proof of a curse or anything of the sort.
On another note, what a f*cking stage. My god cycling is great.