Giro d'Italia Giro d'Italia 2021 stage 16: Sacile - Cortina d'Ampezzo 212km

[Anybody_but..]

Don't know if this was posted but CPA saying the riders requested it

https://twitter.com/x/status/1396839221122437125

View: https://mobile.twitter.com/cpacycling/status/1396839221122437125

We should differ honouring the queen stage and The Maglia Rosa, I think.

 

[Valv.Piti]

It clearly wasn't all the riders who wanted the stage shortened. And it wouldn't be the first time CPA has shown to not actually care about all the riders...

But anyway; in a ten years time nobody will even remember that the stage was shortened.

Really? I think this will and should serve as a benchmark of how low you possibly can sink, and at the same time serve as a reminder that you never should give in to riders on a completely nonexistent basis like today.

This is the turning point. I wont forget it, thats for sure, simply due to the fact that what we saw today was your average day in the mountains in May and yet half the stage gets scrapped. That should NEVER, EVER happen again. Might not be serious for you, for me it really is.

 

[Netserk]

I just have my doubt that CPA are referring to the majority of the riders.

Weak. So very weak cop-out.

 

[Eclipse]

Ya, in 10 years time when they go to show coverage of this year's giro, stage 16 will just be Bernal crossing the finishing line.

Sort of related question... Do the bikes not capture any footage locally?

You can get massive storage on small devices now. You'd hope there might be some salvageable footage of how the GC group played out on Giau that can eventually be shown / shared

 

[titan31]

It broke up on the first climb as well and we lost pictures for around half an hour. Had the stage been run as planned we’d have missed most of it anyway.

Tbf, that's on RCS, Giro and Rai here. It's not like the weather was so bad that you can understand it here. I've seen worse weather get better coverage

 

[kingjr]

With TV images, today would've been a pretty good stage regardless of the two mountains being cancelled.

 

[RedheadDane]

This is the turning point. I wont forget it, thats for sure, simply due to the fact that what we saw today was your average day in the mountains in May and yet half the stage gets scrapped. That should NEVER, EVER happen again. Might not be serious for you, for me it really is.

It's not serious enough that I'll act like it's the end of the world, and sometimes done all the time, when a race is cancelled or shortened every-now-or-then. Not like races are altered that often.

Weak. So very weak cop-out.

I have yet to hear who those riders who actually wanted this was.

 

[Netserk]

With TV images, today would've been a pretty good stage regardless of the two mountains being cancelled.

As good as it could possibly be, agreed. But the room for how great racing that could have unfolded was obviously much greater with the original route.

 

[Valv.Piti]

It broke up on the first climb as well and we lost pictures for around half an hour. Had the stage been run as planned we’d have missed most of it anyway.

Yeah, but thats not an argument for doing a horrible job regarding the cancellation. Two horrible jobs doesnt justify it. We all know today that RAI in its current state is a bunch of amateurs, it is what it is. Hopefully they will sort it out, but arguing that scrapping two legendary climbs is somewhat okay because we wouldn't have seen it anyways is horse IMO.

 

[titan31]

Naah, you're just acting as if everytime there's the slightest issue with the weather, every rider calls for cancellation. Sure, some riders might have wanted to shorten, doesn't mean they all did.



Why would they show coverage of this year's Giro - other than Memorable Moments - in 10 years?



I just have my doubt that CPA are referring to the majority of the riders.

Eurosport are always showing old GTs I find. Hell, i watch old races all the time on YouTube.

 

[Valv.Piti]

It's not serious enough that I'll act like it's the end of the world, and sometimes done all the time, when a race is cancelled or shortened every-now-or-then. Not like races are altered that often.



I have yet to hear who those riders who actually wanted this was.

BUT WHY DOES IT MATTER? Seriously, why does it matter if they want to race the stage or not? Riders are selfish. If I couldn't climb and was 3 hours down and had no teammates who could do well, I would be all for a shortened stage Im sure. Get me out of this misery, its freaking cold, the climbs are hard, the stage is long.

But it shouldn't matter one single bit. They signed up for this, its their job, and the passes were PERFECTLY passable. Completely fine. That should ALWAYS be end of the story.

Vegni should have told them to shut their arses, hop on their bikes and race the stage. If something comes up that suddenly makes the race impassable (hint - its not rain and cold), then cancel them. But dont freaking cancel them cause some wussy ass riders dont wanna ride and the slim possibility of sudden snowstorms etc. Its perfectly legal to reevaluate the route once the race is underway and bad things happens on the passes, but if this is the way to go about things, we will never ever witness these truly great mountain stages and them im not watching anymore of this sport apart from Roubaix and Flanders.

 

[King Boonen]

Easiest solution. Set up an independent EWP body that makes the call.

 

[titan31]

Man, that poll option of FEDIAAAAA!!! really didn't work out did it

 

[RedheadDane]

BUT WHY DOES IT MATTER? Seriously, why does it matter if they want to race the stage or not? Riders are selfish. If I couldn't climb and was 3 hours down and had no teammates who could do well, I would be all for a shortened stage Im sure. Get me out of this misery, its freaking cold, the climbs are hard, the stage is long.

But it shouldn't matter one single bit. They signed up for this, its their job, and the passes were PERFECTLY passable. Completely fine. That should ALWAYS be end of the story.

Vegni should have told them to shut their arses, hop on their bikes and race the stage. If something comes up that suddenly makes the race impassable (hint - its not rain and cold), then cancel them. But dont freaking cancel them cause some wussy ass riders dont wanna ride and the slim possibility of sudden snowstorms etc. Its perfectly legal to reevaluate the route once the race is underway and bad things happens on the passes, but if this is the way to go about things, we will never ever witness these truly great mountain stages and them im not watching anymore of this sport apart from Roubaix and Flanders.

I'm perfectly fine with organisers errring on the side of caution every-now-and-then. You're acting like it happens all the time.

 

[will-10]

Look on the bright side, they'll definitely put Fedaia back in for next year, right? Right!?

 

[Netserk]

I'm perfectly fine with organisers errring on the side of caution every-now-and-then. You're acting like it happens all the time.

BanProCycling

 

[Bolder]

Really? I think this will and should serve as a benchmark of how low you possibly can sink, and at the same time serve as a reminder that you never should give in to riders on a completely nonexistent basis like today.

This is the turning point. I wont forget it, thats for sure, simply due to the fact that what we saw today was your average day in the mountains in May and yet half the stage gets scrapped. That should NEVER, EVER happen again. Might not be serious for you, for me it really is.

I think you need to rethink your priorities. It's just a bike race. There will be others.

 

[RedheadDane]

I think you need to rethink your priorities. It's just a bike race. There will be others.

There's one on right now.

 

[Valv.Piti]

I'm perfectly fine with organisers errring on the side of caution every-now-and-then. You're acting like it happens all the time.

The thing is, if todays is the precedent, then there will never be held high mountain multi stages again because of the worst case theory. In theory, you never know what will happen and the weather in the mountains lives it own life, just look at what happened two years ago in TdF. Being over cautious like this will do absolutely no good for the sport, especially when its not based on anything logical.

 

[bob.a.feet]

I'm perfectly fine with organisers errring on the side of caution every-now-and-then. You're acting like it happens all the time.

There was also that stage last year where the riders didn't want to race. No particular safety concerns, they just didn't fancy it in the rain. Today, while admittedly different circumstances, makes it two years in a row. They're setting a dangerous precedent for sure.

 

[Ricco']

The thing is, if todays is the precedent, then there will never be held high mountain multi stages again because of the worst case theory. In theory, you never know what will happen and the weather in the mountains lives it own life, just look at what happened two years ago in TdF. Being over cautious like this will do absolutely no good for the sport, especially when its not based on anything logical.

Andorra 2016 at the Tour another example. From perfect sunny conditions to heavy rain (and even hail, from what I remember) in a matter of minutes.

 

[Inquitus]

Remco likely to go home per DQS after shipping over 22 minutes today.

 

[titan31]

There was also that stage last year where the riders didn't want to race. No particular safety concerns, they just didn't fancy it in the rain. Today, while admittedly different circumstances, makes it two years in a row. They're setting a dangerous precedent for sure.

They've probably spent half this Giro not wanting to race tbf.

 

[Valv.Piti]

I think you need to rethink your priorities. It's just a bike race. There will be others.

Im picking and choosing what races I watch since I dont have that much time and since I find modern bike racing increasingly stale. Stages like these, big monuments etc. I will watch in its full length since thats what motivates me when it comes to cycling. I couldn't give a rats ass about which sprinter won the second stage of T-A at this point. Thats the reason I find this to be serious because I refuse to let them kill what I enjoy about this sport the most.

 

[RedheadDane]

There was also that stage last year where the riders didn't want to race. No particular safety concerns, they just didn't fancy it in the rain. Today, while admittedly different circumstances, makes it two years in a row. They're setting a dangerous precedent for sure.

Last year I think it was largely a matter of unreasonable transfers. Something with arriving at the hotel just a few hours before the had to get up. And last year majority of the riders also turned out to disagree.