Giro d'Italia Giro d'Italia 2022 route rumors

[greyclouds]

Looks like this edition has been designed for Cattaneo, Masnada and Ciccone.

 

[yaco]

I am happier with this route as it is not as back-loaded as in previous years - Week 2 has interesting probabilities to create GC gaps if raced agressively.

My only quibble is that 26kms of ITT should be in one stage - You are wasting a stage.

 

[Red Rick]

Have we heard anything about Ganna's plans in the coming years? Continue to be a time trial specialist and do some stage hunting? Or will he try something else? I actually hope he doesn't plan to become a GT rider......

Rumor is he's going to the Tour. Can't keep the #1 TTer in the world away from the yellow jersey forever. Also Ineos didn't even get a stage win last Tour it would hedge their bets a little bit.

I think the Giro would make a big mistake to cater to someone specifically. I think they should aim to be the hardest and most beautiful race in the world and this route is certainly failing at the first part.

 

[BigCoward]

I think I might put Bernal as joint favourite with the solvenians on this route, which kinda proves its not that good.

 

[OlavEH]

I think the Giro would make a big mistake to cater to someone specifically. I think they should aim to be the hardest and most beautiful race in the world and this route is certainly failing at the first part.

I very much agree on this. But fear that if don't see any other Italians higher than 5-10 in the Giro the next couple of years, we could a route customized for Ganna if he goes all in for GTs and shows some real promise. That doesn't mean 120 km ITT and no tough MTFs, but just that they drop several or most of the epic climbs like Mortirolo, Finestre, Stelvio and so on.

 

[greyclouds]

Rumor is he's going to the Tour. Can't keep the #1 TTer in the world away from the yellow jersey forever. Also Ineos didn't even get a stage win last Tour it would hedge their bets a little bit.

I think the Giro would make a big mistake to cater to someone specifically. I think they should aim to be the hardest and most beautiful race in the world and this route is certainly failing at the first part.

I'm expecting INEOS at next year's Tour with their big guns - and at the moment their two biggest guns are Ganna and Bernal, imho.

 

[AlfaLum]

Podium might be a bit too much for Ciccone, maybe a top 5.
Witth this route even Fortunato might aim for a top 10 in addition to stage wins.
Ciccone actually worked a decent amount on his TT during the summer, in the Vuelta opening TT he was one the same level as Bernal and Valverde. Not great, but no longer really bad.

I think that without the fall on the Sega di Ala stage, Ciccone could have gotten quite close to a podium in this years edition to be fair. He will probably not be among the three biggest favorites at the start next year, but i also wouldnt rule him out, because Ciccone still seems to be improving year by year, and this route suites him to the bone.

 

[Red Rick]

I very much agree on this. But fear that if don't see any other Italians higher than 5-10 in the Giro the next couple of years, we could a route customized for Ganna if he goes all in for GTs and shows some real promise. That doesn't mean 120 km ITT and no tough MTFs, but just that they drop several or most of the epic climbs like Mortirolo, Finestre, Stelvio and so on.

Surely Ganna needs to show any indication that he could do that first.

And I flatout don't buy that he can be remotely good enough

 

[OlavEH]

Surely Ganna needs to show any indication that he could do that first.

And I flatout don't buy that he can be remotely good enough

Absolutely. And we're still a long way from that. And I also have serious doubts that it will ever happen. Dennis didn't manage it. And Dumoulin only a couple of years. And Ganna is taller and heavier than both those.

 

[BlueRoads]

All in all it looks like a very good route for Michael Woods.

 

[BlueRoads]

All in all it looks like a very good route for Michael Woods.

On a more serious note it looks very good for the Frenchmen. I think Gaudu, Bardet, Pinot will face a tough decision.

 

[Mayomaniac]

I very much agree on this. But fear that if don't see any other Italians higher than 5-10 in the Giro the next couple of years, we could a route customized for Ganna if he goes all in for GTs and shows some real promise. That doesn't mean 120 km ITT and no tough MTFs, but just that they drop several or most of the epic climbs like Mortirolo, Finestre, Stelvio and so on.

Next year Ganna will really target the spring classics (mainly MSR and P-R) for the first time. He says that he might loose some weight to improve his climbing in a few years, but if you read between the lines he probably wants to see how far he can go as a one day racer first.

 

[OlavEH]

On a more serious note it looks very good for the Frenchmen. I think Gaudu, Bardet, Pinot will face a tough decision.

About every more pure climber should prioritize this next year. Carapaz, Yates x2, MAL, Mas and several more. They won't stand a chance in the Tour against the Slovenians, so it would be better to possibly fight for the victory in the Giro than a 3-6.place in the Tour.

 

[AlfaLum]

On a more serious note it looks very good for the Frenchmen. I think Gaudu, Bardet, Pinot will face a tough decision.

FDJ should send Gaudu here yes! He could actually win this thing if in topform.

 

[Mayomaniac]

On a more serious note it looks very good for the Frenchmen. I think Gaudu, Bardet, Pinot will face a tough decision.

If I'm Bora I send Hindley to the Giro with Fabbro and maybe Higuita.

 

[OlavEH]

Have anyone confirmed they will be targeting the Giro next year?

 

[Red Rick]

Have anyone confirmed they will be targeting the Giro next year?

Only Almeida and Nibali?

 

[AlfaLum]

If I'm Bora I send Hindley to the Giro with Fabbro and maybe Higuita.

I think Bora mentioned that they wanted Vlasov to get more experience in the Non-Tour de France GTs before targeting the Tour itself? So i would say that he will be one of their captains for the Giro for sure.

 

[Luthor]

On a more serious note it looks very good for the Frenchmen. I think Gaudu, Bardet, Pinot will face a tough decision.

You go for Giro no doubt, they would get destroyed in Tour. Giro GC and Tour stage hunting if you are still good enough. Landa and Buchmann should go for Giro as well.

Only Almeida and Nibali?

Carapaz and MAL as well.

 

[jimmy_8888888]

Rumor is he's going to the Tour. Can't keep the #1 TTer in the world away from the yellow jersey forever. Also Ineos didn't even get a stage win last Tour it would hedge their bets a little bit.

I think the Giro would make a big mistake to cater to someone specifically. I think they should aim to be the hardest and most beautiful race in the world and this route is certainly failing at the first part.

They did that in the late 70s and most of the 80s for Italian riders (Esp. Moser and Saronni). This year route is climbers route for most parts so expect more well-rounded riders to ride Tour (or even Vuelta) instead.

 

[OlavEH]

Only Almeida and Nibali?

Carapaz and MAL as well.

Good! At least some interesting names. Ineos should also send more. Martinez and Yates perhaps?

I think Bora mentioned that they wanted Vlasov to get more experience in the Non-Tour de France GTs before targeting the Tour itself?

What about Bucmann. Isn't he probably the best climber in Bora?

Also hope that Simon Yates and a couple of the French dudes will target this Giro. And of course Remco.

 

[Mayomaniac]

Good! At least some interesting names. Ineos should also send more. Martinez and Yates perhaps?

What about Bucmann. Isn't he probably the best climber in Bora?

Also hope that Simon Yates and a couple of the French dudes will target this Giro. And of course Remco.

Buchmann hates cold, rainy weather and has a history of underperforming in those conditions, that's the main concern when it comes to him riding the Giro.

 

[Red Rick]

You go for Giro no doubt, they would get destroyed in Tour. Giro GC and Tour stage hunting if you are still good enough. Landa and Buchmann should go for Giro as well.

Carapaz and MAL as well.

Still hope a few more come. I would actually think it's a year where a LOT of riders better be riding the Giro than the Tour cause a 10% chance of winning the Giro is a lot better than a 0% chance of beating the Slovenians.

 

[OlavEH]

Buchmann hates cold, rainy weather and has a history of underperforming in those conditions, that's the main concern when it comes to him riding the Giro.

Okay. Interesting. So then it's probably not too likely to see him there.

Forgot about Landa in the last post. With this route, he should really be targeting the Giro.

 

[OlavEH]

Still hope a few more come. I would actually think it's a year where a LOT of riders better be riding the Giro than the Tour cause a 10% chance of winning the Giro is a lot better than a 0% chance of beating the Slovenians.

When you compete against Pogacar, Roglic with support of his guys or the combined strength of the Ineos team, you will be more or less without a chance. All the other teams should rather target the Giro with their best GC guys unless there are some very specific reason not to. Like the argument above that Buchmann is *** in bad weather.