Giro d'Italia 2023, stage 11: Camaiore - Tortona 219 km

[JosefK]

What exactly does that still shot tell us? In real time they all slide out in the same area so quickly that it's hard to see how this wasn't a grip issue.

That's newly paved road also, yes? With the moderate rain, there could be oil/residue on the surface from the new paving/asphalt.

 

[titan31]

Cav hasn't been the fastest man in the peloton for years now, but still he managed to win a few Tour stages. He won't be the favourite in the Tour sprints, but I wouldn't bet against him winning one.

Tbf he's now older and slower than when he last won a Tour stage and has a significantly worse sprint train and leadout

 

[Panda Claws]

This Giro went from potentially great to cursed really quick.

 

[titan31]

He still got third, you know. Before the Tour 2021 he was pretty much written off as well.

3rd sounds good until you look at who he beat. Pedersen is the only Tour level sprinter there. The others are guys you'd be shocked if Cavendish didn't beat.

 

[jmdirt]

Congrats PA!

 

[Panda Claws]

3rd sounds good until you look at who he beat. Pedersen is the only Tour level sprinter there. The others are guys you'd be shocked if Cavendish didn't beat.

Cava has won more GT stages than this entire forum combined.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Cava has won more GT stages than this entire forum combined.

Well we don't know the real identities of all the people on here.

 

[Red Rick]

Well we don't know the real identities of all the people on here.

I am actually Alessandro Petacchi

Guess I got busted

 

[staubsauger]

I am actually Alessandro Petacchi

Guess I got busted

We know you always dreamed about being as fast as him Max.

But just be happy about your 2 sprint victories at the Vuelta a Espana!

 

[Salvarani]

Anything can happen in this race, as we keeping seeing day by day.

Riders within 5 minutes from the leader going into the 3rd week could still win this.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Cava has won more GT stages than this entire forum combined.

I have won the same amount of GT's as this forum combined.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Congratulations to Pascal Ackermann for winning the sprint.

Although that was some proper sprinting from Milan too. Too bad this stage turned out as it is. Being another crash fest. Hopefully all riders involved get well soon.

 

[Jagartrott]

The racing is good. The crashes, and the covid, isn't.

Are you serious?
We've had next to zero GC action mano-a-mano, and we are stage 11. The Gran Sasso stage was a dud, we've hardly had any spectacle in breakaways (yesterday as an example), almost all of the 'excitement' came from crashes. No, this Giro has not been good at all so far.

 

[topcat]

Cava has won more GT stages than this entire forum combined.

I have won the tour and the vuelta twice (gc). I only have 4 stage wins in the tour though (I’m not much of a sprinter and at 63 years old, I don’t think I’ll add to my tally).

 

[F_Cance]

kind of disturbing that Milan keeps getting away with using his hands to push other riders. To be fair, today was the most mild example, but if there is one rider known for this kind of rule violation, it's Milan.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

I have won the same amount of GT's as this forum combined.

This still doesn't exclude the scenario in which Logic is your friend and Remco are not two different people...

 

[Scarponi]

Are you serious?
We've had next to zero GC action mano-a-mano, and we are stage 11. The Gran Sasso stage was a dud, we've hardly had any spectacle in breakaways (yesterday as an example), almost all of the 'excitement' came from crashes. No, this Giro has not been good at all so far.

Probably the worst opening 12 days of a grand tour ever

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Oh man, the happiest man in the peleton is out! Who will Primoz race against in the mountains?

 

[Aimar16]

What exactly does that still shot tell us? In real time they all slide out in the same area so quickly that it's hard to see how this wasn't a grip issue.

There were at least five guys on this corner on the same line in front of Covi and none of them crashed. I think the grip was fine, as the left lane seemed dry. It looks more like a road imperfection to me that fooled Covi and Tao & Rog braked too hard moving into the wetter part

Roglic (or Bowman?) crashes directly in front of him. What should he do? Pause, Rewind, play and let himself sack to take that corner in last position instead?

It was Roglic who is also not bright in such situations.

 

[Rackham]

Oh man, the happiest man in the peleton is out! Who will Primoz race against in the mountains?

Sepp Kuss. Although he apparently stuck his finger in his spokes for xyz reason & it's all bloodied now.

I guess he wanted his own injury to make it a fair fight in week 3.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Sepp Kuss. Although he apparently stuck his finger in his spokes for xyz reason & it's all bloodied now.

I guess he wanted his own injury to make it a fair fight in week 3.

This is really a survival game. If it continues like that then the GC winner is somewhere around place 20-30 right now.

 

[Sciatic]

Sepp Kuss. Although he apparently stuck his finger in his spokes for xyz reason & it's all bloodied now.

I guess he wanted his own injury to make it a fair fight in week 3.

Was he fiddling with his rear derailleur while riding, like we saw him do last week?

I used to always brushed off my front and rear tires with a gloved hand after riding through shattered glass or thorns that I couldn’t swerve around. One time was sloppy got a finger in my rear spokes. Man that hurt.
I only do that with my front tires now

 

[dobrien]

I have won the tour and the vuelta twice (gc). I only have 4 stage wins in the tour though (I’m not much of a sprinter and at 63 years old, I don’t think I’ll add to my tally).

I believe the only former rider for whom this statement would be true is Pedro Delgado; are you seriously telling us you are him? If you are, it's pretty awesome to have you on this forum. Otherwise, shame on you! ;-)

 

[CyclistAbi]

It was Roglic who is also not bright in such situations.

I learned in this thread Rogla brought Covid and Rogla caused crash on stage 11. Due to his age?

P.S. I guess this is a so called internet bubble some warned me about.

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

How many of Jonathan Milan's second places would be turned into wins if he could redirect the momentum of his head bouncing around into his legs?