Giro d'Italia Giro d'Italia 2023, stage 16: Sabbio Chiese - Monte Bondone 203 km

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Is Arensman still a co-leader? Would think they put everything on thomas now

It doesn't matter what status he has, he's still close in GC, as is De Plus. And secondly, this would only improve Thomas' odds.

 

[Mayomaniac]

Fortunato from the breakaway, I expect Eolo to try to get him + another guy for the flat in the breakaway/a teammate helping him to make the breakaway on the flat start. Him an Cepeda are probably the only guys who have the climbing legs to make it from the breakaway on such a hard climb, assuming that anyone within 10min won't be allowed in the breakaway.

 

[Mayomaniac]

It doesn't matter what status he has, he's still close in GC, as is De Plus. And secondly, this would only improve Thomas' odds.

The again, look at how they used those 2 on Crans-Montana...
By now Ineos are all in on the Thomas train.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

The again, look at how they used those 2 on Crans-Montana...
By now Ineos are all in on the Thomas train.

If they are, then it makes no sense to have both De Plus and Arensman stay that close in GC, as well as Sivakov before his crash. Then those guys could have taken turns staying with Thomas in the final while the other took a day off. They could both have saved a lot of energy with the third week in mind and been at 30 minutes in GC.

 

[TourOfSardinia]

Put a rain jacket on that.

 

[Gigs_98]

The stomp has to happen at some point. This better be it.

 

[yaco]

And SD Worx are the most successful women's team. That doesn't mean they're tactical masterminds. Most of Ineos' success has been predicated on a simple bludgeoning tactic built out of having the strongest rider and strongest support squad in the race and just riding on the front until everybody drops, and when they've had to think outside of the box they've been found wanting on a number of occasions. There are occasional exceptions, but by and large that has been the tactic that has underpinned their decade of dominance, and it hardly takes a tactical wizard to come up with that.

100% correct - They tried to adopt the same tactics in the Classics and they wondered why they were unsuccessful.

 

[Red Rick]

The stomp has to happen at some point. This better be it.

Scenes when he just waits amd waits and goes down 20s on the flat split before dropping 7W/ kg Monte Lussari and doesnt celebrate because the mailman doesnt celebrate when he delivers the mail

 

[Blanco]

Jumbo will go for the stage, and Rogla for the pink. I think they will succeed, although not expecting huge time gaps. Think Almeida will be closest to Roglic.

 

[Rob5091]

So who's going to save themselves for the second sprint at the base of the last climb? One has to wonder sometimes about the organizers ...
I'd expect the Ineos train will take over from FDJ on the first climb and then it'll be all the way to near the finish. Hope Pinot is not expected to do team duties so he can get in the break as I would expect the breakaway to get the win and the GC guys to grind it out. Regardless of what you see on TV, there'll be treacherous conditions and a strong headwind all the way to the finish. Come to think of it, I believe there could be a strong headwind all week!

 

[zlev11]

any chance they shorten the stage? dont feel like waking up at 6am to watch these losers tomorrow. just start at the bottom of the bondone so nobody gets wet, cold, tired or angry.

 

[SafeBet]

any chance they shorten the stage? dont feel like waking up at 6am to watch these losers tomorrow. just start at the bottom of the bondone so nobody gets wet, cold, tired or angry.

Never say never but the weather forecast looks good for tomorrow.

 

[glassmoon]

any chance they shorten the stage? dont feel like waking up at 6am to watch these losers tomorrow. just start at the bottom of the bondone so nobody gets wet, cold, tired or angry.

maybe if it is too hot there might be some petition in peloton...

 

[zlev11]

Never say never but the weather forecast looks good for tomorrow.

maybe can they think of something else? maybe the riders from the 90's were too mean the other day so they can protest that?

 

[Bonimenier]

Fortunato from the breakaway, I expect Eolo to try to get him + another guy for the flat in the breakaway/a teammate helping him to make the breakaway on the flat start. Him an Cepeda are probably the only guys who have the climbing legs to make it from the breakaway on such a hard climb, assuming that anyone within 10min won't be allowed in the breakaway.

Vine and McNulty?

 

[RedheadDane]

Surely you mean PPDBFTSD.

No, no, no. PDBF is trauma in itself.

 

[staubsauger]

Has this Giro d'Italia been awful enough, that @Libertine Seguros hopes Sepp Kuss hits the front of the peloton this week?

 

[Mayomaniac]

At this point someone who is still willing to watch whole stages is probably more of a hardman that 90% of the Giro peloton...

 

[KOM]

At this point someone who is still willing to watch whole stages is probably more of a hardman that 90% of the Giro peloton...

Finally I've found my calling to make a true difference in the world

 

[zlev11]

At this point someone who is still willing to watch whole stages is probably more of a hardman that 90% of the Giro peloton...

yeah and here in the US you have to get up before 6am to see the whole stage. way more of a hardman than geraint thomas for sure.

 

[Berniece]

It doesn't matter what status he has, he's still close in GC, as is De Plus. And secondly, this would only improve Thomas' odds.

Unless Thomas has a bad day, which means they probably want him surrounded by riders that can get him over the finish line as fast as possible, which won't be possible if Arensman attacks.

 

[staubsauger]

At this point someone who is still willing to watch whole stages is probably more of a hardman that 90% of the Giro peloton...

Thanks pal, truly appreciate that!

 

[Krzysztof_O]

I've heard that a riders' strike is possible again due to a high number of climbs. To calm the riders down the organizers are considering shortening Monte Bondone by mere 17 kilometers. Keep your fingers crossed the stage will take place!

 

[Mayomaniac]

yeah and here in the US you have to get up before 6am to see the whole stage. way more of a hardman than geraint thomas for sure.

Getting up at 6am 6 days per week? That reminds me a lot of highschool...

 

[repre]

yeah and here in the US you have to get up before 6am to see the whole stage. way more of a hardman than geraint thomas for sure.

We have NBA and other games at 3:30 am, so 6 am isn't smth terrible))