Giro d'Italia Giro d'Italia 2023, Stage 6: Napoli – Napoli 162 km

[King Boonen]

If Bondone isnt a proprt mountain stage than the Tour anf Vuelta dont have any mountain stages either

Yes.

 

[tobydawq]

Two really good stages like A or S-Tier mountain stages. Hard stages there are quite a few more

Then what is the problem?

 

[KOM]

Then what is the problem?

That they might not happen as advertised. And yes I get it the 3rd week is super hard and yes stage 16 is very good aswell, but the overall route is very mediocre in my opinion especially when considering the risk of nerfes/cancellations. I guess the route is just way too backloaded in my opinion which also has a tendency to hinder/delay actual racing even more in earlier stages that *could* be interesting atleast in theory

 

[Samamba]

So is every sprinter apart from Cav back?

Well and Dekker.

 

[tobydawq]

That they might not happen as advertised. And yes I get it the 3rd week is super hard and yes stage 16 is very good aswell, but the overall route is very mediocre in my opinion especially when considering the risk of nerfes/cancellations. I guess the route is just way too backloaded in my opinion which also has a tendency to hinder/delay actual racing even more in earlier stages that *could* be interesting atleast in theory

Sounds to me like arguing for the sake of arguing. An incessant need of always being unsatisfied about everything.

Red Rick and Bavarianrider have found a rival.

 

[tobydawq]

Why do they keep forcing that E-Giro crap upon our eyes?

 

[Valv.Piti]

So whats going on? Not much I see. Looks like a solid time for a few hours of sleep on the sofa and a 50/50 of waking up during the sprint.

 

[Salvarani]

That they might not happen as advertised. And yes I get it the 3rd week is super hard and yes stage 16 is very good aswell, but the overall route is very mediocre in my opinion especially when considering the risk of nerfes/cancellations. I guess the route is just way too backloaded in my opinion which also has a tendency to hinder/delay actual racing even more in earlier stages that *could* be interesting atleast in theory

I think this it not a bad take at all.

A backloaded route will, as you say, make riders/teams hesitant on racing hard before it. Afraid that they will pay for it later. Some really hard mountain stages or a tough MTF can be incredibly boring sometimes with attacks only in the last 3km.

Some people on here just want to argue for the sake of arguing, bit ironic coming from certain posters.

 

[tobydawq]

So whats going on? Not much I see. Looks like a solid time for a few hours of sleep on the sofa and a 50/50 of waking up during the sprint.

I don't think I will take a few hours before they finish...

And how long do you sleep in the afternoon?

 

[tobydawq]

I think this it not a bad take at all.

A backloaded route will, as you say, make riders/team hesitant on racing hard before it. Afraid that they will pay for it later. Some really hard mountain stages or a tough MTF can be incredibly boring sometimes with attacks only in the last 3km.

Some people on here just want to argue for the sake arguing, bit ironic coming from certain posters.

Isn't backloading better than the atrocity of a route the Vuelta had last year?

 

[Salvarani]

Isn't backloading better than the atrocity of a route the Vuelta had last year?

Not here to argue.

 

[Tour de Berghem]

Why do they keep forcing that E-Giro crap upon our eyes?

Because Giro main sponsor is ENEL, state owned electric company

 

[noob]

Falling asleep during such a heartbreakingly beautiful (scenery) stage is so underrated. You miss nothing and when you wake up it's still as beautiful as when you fell asleep. Pure bliss.

 

[search]

So is every sprinter apart from Cav back?

Well and Dekker.

Marit and Fiorelli are with Cav as well.

Hoole also joined that group now (from behind, I guess), by the way. Didn't see Dekker.

 

[red_flanders]

A bit surprised to see QS pulling at this point, even if one other guy is on the front. Seems like a day to make the sprint teams take a bit more wind. I know, stay safe up front, but…

 

[Potomac]

OK, Robbie McEwan has me jazzed for Milan to win today for the italian headlines Milan victorious in Napoli

 

[Samu Cuenca]

OK, Robbie McEwan has me jazzed for Milan to win today for the italian headlines Milan victorious in Napoli

Surely Champion would be a more fitting winner.

 

[Samamba]

Catching De Marchi and Clarke won't be as easy as some think.

Looks like peloton understood, multiple teams chasing now.

 

[KOM]

Sounds to me like arguing for the sake of arguing. An incessant need of always being unsatisfied about everything.

Red Rick and Bavarianrider have found a rival.

Im not trying to do that. Let me try to put it another way. Stages 3,5,6,10,11 and 14 are basically the same stage, a design I dont find particularly interesting. Then we have stages 2,17,21 which are completely flat. That paired with 3 stages reserved for ITT's (which is whatever I neither particularly like nor dislike them) and the fact that chances for crosswinds are notoriously low in Italy it just creates a route for me where basically halfthe stages are, for a lack of a better word, "wasted". So that paired with what I said about the mountain stages just makes for a pretty mediocre route and im neither trying to argue for the sake of arguing nor am I trying to convince you that the route is terrible. If you think the route is awesome, more power to you, I wish i could feel the same as I dont really get a kick out of disliking the route of my favourite GT.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Isn‘t it lovely that Carlton Kirby isn‘t commentating this Simon Clarke exhibition?

 

[Sciatic]

OK, Robbie McEwan has me jazzed for Milan to win today for the italian headlines Milan victorious in Napoli

Ooh, winning in one of the primary medieval/renaissance city-state rivals like Florence or Venice will be even more special

 

[JosefK]

OK, Robbie McEwan has me jazzed for Milan to win today for the italian headlines Milan victorious in Napoli

Or even kicking the hornet's nest a little more with "Milan conquers Napoli!"

 

[JosefK]

Just a few potholes on those roads.

 

[tobydawq]

Im not trying to do that. Let me try to put it another way. Stages 3,5,6,10,11 and 14 are basically the same stage, a design I dont find particularly interesting. Then we have stages 2,17,21 which are completely flat. That paired with 3 stages reserved for ITT's (which is whatever I neither particularly like nor dislike them) and the fact that chances for crosswinds are notoriously low in Italy it just creates a route for me where basically halfthe stages are, for a lack of a better word, "wasted". So that paired with what I said about the mountain stages just makes for a pretty mediocre route and im neither trying to argue for the sake of arguing nor am I trying to convince you that the route is terrible. If you think the route is awesome, more power to you, I wish i could feel the same as I dont really get a kick out of disliking the route of my favourite GT.

I think hinging a dislike of a route on the assumption that "the good stages will probably be cancelled anyway" is problematic.

 

[Wvv]

Crash Roglic.
This Giro lol.
(Apparently earlier in the race, since his shorts are cut.)