Giro d'Italia Giro d'Italia 2025, stage 13: Rovigo – Vicenza, 180km

[Boehmand]

Did everyone forget about the 2022 Vuelta or why is everyone so surprised about Pedersen on this finish?

No, but arguably 2022 Pedersen would not have made the top 10 today, he is better uphill than ever before.

 

[Tricycle Rider]

Keep the picture!!!

What picture are you guys talking about? With my settings I'm not seeing one...

Never mind, I tweaked my settings and can see it now and don't see anything wrong with it. (I'll go back to my usual settings though because signatures and the like are just too much clutter for my taste.)

 

[Red Rick]

Roglic to write another episode in the "washed" story arc with the definitive death of Roglstomp before the appearance of the myth that shall first appear on Finestre that shall be RogloBasso

Thus part 1 of the prophecy was fulfilled.

There is nothing that can be done now. Tis an inevitability

 

[Red Rick]

No, but arguably 2022 Pedersen would not have made the top 10 today, he is better uphill than ever before.

Got 2nd on a longer hill top finish that day only beaten by an actual pre-Hamilton Roglstomp

 

[theyoungest]

Thus part 1 of the prophecy was fulfilled.

There is nothing that can be done now. Tis an inevitability

In the last Giro he won he was far from impressive as well. Apart from that one time trial. So yeah, on Finestre a lot is still possible. Meanwhile Del Toro is acting like Simon Yates before his infamous collapse on Finestre...

 

[Cycling111]

4	ROCHAS Rémy	Groupama - FDJ	80	25		0:05
5	GODON Dorian	Decathlon AG2R La Mondiale Team	60	18		,

Contador was second here the year he won the Giro. Nibali won this stage.

It seems that the balance of power is usually visible at this stage. It's striking that only Del Toro was ahead of these two riders.

The GC riders don't seem to be strong. We've seen good intentions from Bernal and a intelligent attack from Carapaz, and Del Toro, who seems strong so far. But they are more intentions than force.

They can't or are saving energy despite the Giro's course is weak.

 

[Tim Cahill]

Orluis Aular kinda good here, if he takes this form to the Vuelta he can nab a stage or two.

 

[Cycling111]

We know if Ayuso wins this Giro he is going to daddy Matxin to demand to co-lead with Pogacar in TdF 2026 despite Pogacar being levels above him. Will be a Lance/Contador moment.

That would be living far from reality.

Hindley has won the Giro and he couldn't possibly ask Pogacar for co-leadership.

The DS aren't stupid; winning the Giro doesn't mean being at the level of the Tour de France winner, or even at the level of the second at TDF.

And Ayuso, no matter how much he talks, is aware that this is a different level. He knows that Pogacar would have fought for victory today and would have caught Van Aert and Del Toro on Sunday.

 

[Heston]

Carapaz and Pidcock both looked completely cooked 300 m from the line. Kind of weak performance.

 

[theyoungest]

What are Ineos doing these past few stages? Going all out somewhere in the middle of the stage, dropping almost the whole peloton, and then it comes back together and they've achieved nothing. Except for their own rider losing time (Arensman, in this case).

 

[Red Rick]

Carapaz and Pidcock both looked completely cooked 300 m from the line. Kind of weak performance.

This type of finish is very peculiar and specific, especially if it's full gas from the bottom and the actual sprint is on a steep gradient too. It becomes this weird 1 minute interval where you completely explode if it's too long. Similar to Rodez in the Tour, which has had shockingly big gaps for being essentially a 1 minute climb.

 

[kamaveli]

Roglic actually looked really strong and effortless on the final stretch. Other GC contenders not so much and they had to empty their tanks.

 

[EddyMazzoleni]

Carapaz and Pidcock both looked completely cooked 300 m from the line. Kind of weak performance.

Yes, but tbf alot of other GC riders also underperformed compared to expectations, like Ayuso, Ciccone and S. Yates. Maybe the arrive was not so hard as to favour them over puncheur, but others like Tiberi overperformed.

 

[Red Rick]

Roglic actually looked really strong and effortless on the final stretch. Other GC contenders not so much and they had to empty their tanks.

Well he's much better naturally at this sort of effort than nearly every GC contender. If he's healthy and hasn't trained all his medium fast twitch fibers into the ground I'd always expect him to be at least s.t. with Pedersen, if not winning outright.

 

[Red Rick]

Yes, but tbf alot of other GC riders also underperformed compared to expectations, like Ayuso, Ciccone and S. Yates. Maybe the arrive was not so hard as to favour them over puncheur, but others like Tiberi overperformed.

The last time the Giro was here, an old Gilbert long past his best puncheur days deleted all the GC riders in slow, heavy conditions.

Why people favored GC riders without any sprinting cred is beyond me.

 

[Valv.Piti]

Roglic aint winning this Giro. Looks super mediocre outside of the time trials, and that part is over

 

[YavorD]

Roglic is gonna be our Froome from 2018.
Del Toro is gonna be our Yates.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Roglic actually looked really strong and effortless on the final stretch. Other GC contenders not so much and they had to empty their tanks.

Yes, sort of, but Rémy Rochas actually entered the final stretch behind him and then finished quite clearly ahead of him. And in no world should Roglič lose to Rémy Rochas on this finish.

 

[red_flanders]

Roglic aint winning this Giro. Looks super mediocre outside of the time trials, and that part is over

He's not sprinting, but he seems comfortable and moving around easily on the climbs. Not sure I'm seeing the same thing. There's really no one here who is good enough in the mountains to clearly be superior.

I think fair to question if he can drag enough time back, but hard to imagine he's not going to attack and drop pretty much everyone on some of the big climbs. I think he's saving his powder.

 

[pelotonIQ]

That would be living far from reality.

Hindley has won the Giro and he couldn't possibly ask Pogacar for co-leadership.

The DS aren't stupid; winning the Giro doesn't mean being at the level of the Tour de France winner, or even at the level of the second at TDF.

And Ayuso, no matter how much he talks, is aware that this is a different level. He knows that Pogacar would have fought for victory today and would have caught Van Aert and Del Toro on Sunday.

What has Hindley got to do with UAE, Ayuso and Pogacar?

Let me put you on some game that you didn't know. Ayuso is Matxin's special boy, he has been promised plenty of things from Matxin and if Ayuso wins Giro, he will 100% demand to co-lead TdF 2026 that will take off from his hometown of Barcelona. Now don't get ahead of yourself, I only said that he will demand to co-lead.

 

[EddyMazzoleni]

The last time the Giro was here, an old Gilbert long past his best puncheur days deleted all the GC riders in slow, heavy conditions.

Why people favored GC riders without any sprinting cred is beyond me.

Ayuso, Ciccone, Pidcock and Carapaz are all quite punchy, so I think it was justified to expect a decent result of them. Definitively not a pure climber finish, but it's still peculiar that all of them finished behind Tiberi and Bernal that are not really explosive.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

How has Adam yates lost time? What is he doing?

Gee is notably getting better and better through the race. By the time we actually have proper stages (Tuesday) he will be the strongest

 

[Hugh Januss]

That would be living far from reality.

Hindley has won the Giro and he couldn't possibly ask Pogacar for co-leadership.

I'm sitting here trying to work out how a Bora rider would be asking to be co-leader with a rider from UAE

 

[Cycling111]

How has Adam yates lost time? What is he doing?

Gee is notably getting better and better through the race. By the time we actually have proper stages (Tuesday) he will be the strongest

Today he spent energy helping Ayuso when INEOS attacked.

 

[staubsauger]

I'm sitting here trying to work out how a Bora rider would be asking to be co-leader with a rider from UAE

Luc LeBlanc became Pantani's super-domestique at the 1998 Tour de France after Beat Zberg had left.

Nothing's impossible! 😄