Giro d'Italia Giro D'italia 2025 Stage 16: Piazzola sul Brenta – San Valentino

[EddyMazzoleni]

You can get by pretty well in German in Bergamo, Bolzano! I like the north because after little provocation, drink or 2 start complaining about the south, as an American it makes me feel at home to hear gripes about fellow citizens not pulling their weight!! It's an international common subject to wail about!!

While the dialect from Bergamo is as incomprehesible as german to other italians, it has, in fact nothing to do with it.

 

[Pantani_lives]

What's the last time someone went six years between consecutive GT wins?

Gino Bartali between 1938 and 1946?

EDIT: Fausto Coppi between 1940 and 1947.

 

[Netserk]

(GC Gee is a bit of a thing but it's more because I think like with O'Connor's original 4th place in hte Tour, the fact they've been allowed to gain time by not being marked means other riders, let alone the fans, had rather underestimated them)

Gee has not been allowed to gain any time this Giro.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Gino Bartali between 1938 and 1946?

EDIT: Fausto Coppi between 1940 and 1947.

I had a look too after asking the question, think the answer is actually Gimondi (1969 and 1976). So it would be pretty historic if Carapaz or Yates wins this race.

 

[OlavEH]

Excellent stage. Perhaps the best Giro stage since Torino 2022 or Torri di Fraele 2020.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Gee has not been allowed to gain any time this Giro.

I know. I was meaning that people may have undervalued his previous results because of that.

 

[Tim Cahill]

Did Ayuso get deducted his 20 seconds for drafting too much using the car?

 

[staubsauger]

You can get by pretty well in German in Bergamo, Bolzano! I like the north because after little provocation, drink or 2 start complaining about the south, as an American it makes me feel at home to hear gripes about fellow citizens not pulling their weight!! It's an international common subject to wail about!!

I once was at the Lago di Caldonazzo or as @Mayomaniac would say in Gallnötsch!

Tried to buy some dumplings / Knödel in the supermarket and asked the Italian cashier where I can find the canderlo. He didn't understand what I meant, so I showed him a picture and he just said "Aaah KNOOODEEEL!" 😄

 

[E_F_]

PWU can finally lay off, I'm happy to admit @Devil's Elbow. I'm not sure it's due to great race design, and all the action was limited to the final climb as predicted. But the action was very, very intriguing, and the gaps were way bigger, than I'd ever expected. Now it's just a pity, that the rest of the route isn't more friendly to long range attacks. Well, come to think of it, there'll certainly be a lot stuff going on in the Aosta stage. And obviously Finestre is Finestre, which means that everything is still wide open in the top three.

 

[zlev11]

PWU can finally lay off, I'm happy to admit @Devil's Elbow. I'm not sure it's due to great race design, and all the action was limited to the final climb as predicted. But the action was very, very intriguing, and the gaps were way bigger, than I'd ever expected. Now it's just a pity, that the rest of the route isn't more friendly to long range attacks. Well, come to think of it, there'll certainly be a lot stuff going on in the Aosta stage. And obviously Finestre is Finestre, which means that everything is still wide open in the top three.

i was reallllly annoyed that only Storer tried something on Santa Barbara but it all worked out in the end

 

[Libertine Seguros]

PWU can finally lay off, I'm happy to admit @Devil's Elbow. I'm not sure it's due to great race design, and all the action was limited to the final climb as predicted. But the action was very, very intriguing, and the gaps were way bigger, than I'd ever expected. Now it's just a pity, that the rest of the route isn't more friendly to long range attacks. Well, come to think of it, there'll certainly be a lot stuff going on in the Aosta stage. And obviously Finestre is Finestre, which means that everything is still wide open in the top three.

There was a lot of attrition on Santa Barbara and the pace being kept high throughout there contributed significantly to the action we got on the final climb. It may not have been 2011 Rifugio Gardeccia level three-climb-out chaos, but Santa Barbara more than played a role, it wasn't a one-climb shootout.

And if nothing else, the fact it completely shattered the break meant that the cameramen could actually film the relevant action on the final climb, which has been a problem for the Giro cameramen in recent years, filming the detritus of the breakaway limping home for lower end stage top 10s while the GC action takes place behind.

 

[Netserk]

i was reallllly annoyed that only Storer tried something on Santa Barbara but it all worked out in the end

Shates did too, even if not all-in.

 

[solo80k]

I dont agree ...need to hit home while del Toro is vacillating and they know this
And it s not like they need to attack from far out ...just drill it hard to the last climb KMs

Del Toro will lose minutes on stage 20, because he never raced for 3 weeks as a leader and the climbs are above 2000 meters. He's not going to defend there.

 

[Mayomaniac]

While the dialect from Bergamo is as incomprehesible as german to other italians, it has, in fact nothing to do with it.

This, Southern Italian dialects are one thing, but certain Northern Italian dialects are on a whole different level...

 

[Mayomaniac]

I once was at the Lago di Caldonazzo or as @Mayomaniac would say in Gallnötsch!

Tried to buy some dumplings / Knödel in the supermarket and asked the Italian cashier where I can find the canderlo. He didn't understand what I meant, so I showed him a picture and he just said "Aaah KNOOODEEEL!" 😄

Nah, I won't use the German names of places in Trentino (besides certain German speaking linguistic enclaves) one would have to be a bit of a pangermanistic nutjob to still do that.
That said, certain parts of Trentino have still specific German words in their dialect.

 

[ChewbaccaDefense]

I have made up my mind, I now want Derek Gee to win this bike race.

Still wanting Del Toro, but Yeah, Gee would be a nice result as well.

 

[perico]

Reading through the overall GC, I had no idea Louis Meintjes was here. Talk about Zubeldia…

 

[staubsauger]

If Pellizzari hadn't had to babysit Roglic on Sunday he'd be 6th, three minutes down. We have been robbed

That's just incompetence from Red Bull!

If they had send him into the breakaway instead today. Okay.

 

[Lequack]

This is shaping up to be a good GC battle after all, shame we had to wait almost till the end to get it.

 

[perico]

It ain't over until the fat man gives you the thumbs up. Brilliant race today.

Wow Betancur looks fantastic

 

[Lequack]

Good news about Martinelli, who flew down into the threes.
Updates on Alessio Martinelli: Fortunately, medical tests have ruled out any fractures, only trauma to the chin and right buttock.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1927398131705983163

View: https://x.com/Bardiani_CSF/status/1927398131705983163

 

[Sciatic]

So Visma will be drilling it tomorrow ?

I don’t know about tomorrow, but Wout’s role in this Giro has added gravitas.

 

[Unchained]

While the dialect from Bergamo is as incomprehesible as german to other italians, it has, in fact nothing to do with it.

You are surely correct, my first time watching the Giro, done on a whim, went to the city, didn't then, don't now ,speak any Italian, instead I used German and English. Many northern Italians in my experience speak good German!
I stayed in a cleaning closet in the rafters of a hotel on a single bed. It was a hundred and something dollars for the night, no bathroom or windows. Went down for coffee and breakfast, guy was getting lots of attention, handshakes, smiles, photos.. Francesco Moser!!! Pretty sure his room had bigger bed, windows and a bathroom!! Didn't matter to me!!

 

[EddyMazzoleni]

You are surely correct, my first time watching the Giro, done on a whim, went to the city, didn't then, don't now ,speak any Italian, instead I used German and English. Many northern Italians in my experience speak good German!
I stayed in a cleaning closet in the rafters of a hotel on a single bed. It was a hundred and something dollars for the night, no bathroom or windows. Went down for coffee and breakfast, guy was getting lots of attention, handshakes, smiles, photos.. Francesco Moser!!! Pretty sure his room had bigger bed, windows and a bathroom!! Didn't matter to me!!

That sounds like a crazy experience. There are high schools in italy in which german is part of the curriculum, so some speak it well, but it's surely not as widespread as english outside of south Tirol ( of course there it is the language for the majority of the population)

 

[EddyMazzoleni]

This, Southern Italian dialects are one thing, but certain Northern Italian dialects are on a whole different level...

I can understand people from Liguria, Lombardy and Piedmont decently, but those guys in Val Brembana, they are a different things