Giro d'Italia Giro d'Italia 2025 stage 20: Verrès – Sestrière, 205 km

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When you think about what Roglic meant to the development of Slovenian cycling - a nation of 2.1 million people - imagine what Del Toro will mean to the development of Mexican cycling - a nation of almost 130 million people.
 
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Hey Rick - just so we can put this to bed once and for all - your hero Nibs was just on camera saying "above 2K is a game changer" :p
 
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the only climbs that are in the Finestre category would be Pic du Midi and MAYBE Agnello
Not Agnello.

But if we're gonna include climbs that don't have the road quality for a road race and would need to be asphalted or significantly patched up you get a pretty big list pretty quickly.
 
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TBF the Giro has never really balanced out climbs the same, and the Tour has started getting extremely creative with their categorisations recently. Vars HC? Côte des Chevrères cat.1? I mean FFS.

However, because normally the Giro only gives out its highest mountains points for the Cima Coppi and has historically had no HC status, things like the Zoncolan, Mortirolo, Monte Grappa, Monte Bondone, Manghen, Sampeyre and others which are clear HC-level climbs but not at sufficient altitude to ever be the Cima Coppi are simply given cat.1 status; this often means that either the race is very stingy with cat.2 status for some seriously tough climbs (San Pellegrino, Valparola, Falzarego, Tonale, Cibiana and so on have seen it in the past), or that climbs earlier in the race given cat.1 status like Rionero Sannitico or Monte Carpegna are ridiculously categorised with the same points available as a climb like Grappa or Mortirolo (like in 2008, for example).

Finestre in 2005 is the only example that comes to my mind of the Giro actually implementing a "HC" category:

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This was as the Cima Coppi that year was Stelvio. In 2011, it was reduced back down to cat. 1:

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Since then, when included, Finestre has been the Cima Coppi, which has meant that it at least gets that 'special' mountains points value.

Based on the old Giro GPM, cat.3 was 3-2-1, cat.2 was 5-3-1, cat.1 was 10-6-4-2-1, an MTF (of any category considered worth giving points) was 15-10-6-4-2 and the Cima Coppi was 20-15-10-6-4-2.

I can't remember exactly what points were given for Finestre back in 2005, but it was a special category of its own.

17 points for Finestre in 2005. NO way was it going to be given less than Sestreiers
 
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So who (if anyone) from the break is a serious option to make it?
Garofoli, Bilbao (tired from yesterday?), Rochas, Harper?
Clarke to validate the 2012 Vuelta KoM?
I guess more than most would expect because the break went quite quickly and it's not been a super hard day before.

For reference, Kiriyenka barely lost any time on the Finestre in 2011.