Giro d'Italia Giro D'Italia 2025 Stage 9: Gubbio – Siena (181km)

[Ilmaestro99]

Oh nononononononononoo!!!! Primož Roglic is in crisis at the giro ditalia!!!!!!!!

 

[Lequack]

Tomorrow

 

[sam6]

Bernal if he has the legs will certainly go for it from the guys going for GC as will del Torro.

Pidcock will also target this stage (and is favourite imo) but am not counting him as a GC guy etc- finish too tough for Mads even though I think he will.mix it up on the gravel for Ciccone.

I don't see why it's too tough for Pedersen. There aren't too many climbs on those gravel sectors, and he has come second in Flanders, which has much more climbing than this and tougher climbs than this finish. Plus, he had an easy day today

 

[hayneplane]

I don't see why it's too tough for Pedersen. There aren't too many climbs on those gravel sectors, and he has come second in Flanders, which has much more climbing than this and tougher climbs than this finish. Plus, he had an easy day today

You must have missed his 50km 3 Man TTT for the opening hour at near red zone effort trying to establish a breakaway.

 

[gregrowlerson]

Anything will be better than that Remco struggle stage from a few years ago.

 

[red_flanders]

I don't see why it's too tough for Pedersen. There aren't too many climbs on those gravel sectors, and he has come second in Flanders, which has much more climbing than this and tougher climbs than this finish.

I agree with this, I think there will be a lot of guys at the finish, or at least big (10+ or so) groups. Which makes me think about how narrow that finale really is, both the climb and the turns at the top, assuming it's exactly as in Strade. That last climb is super selective in Strade, but I wonder how it might affect bigger groups.

Wonder if there's going to be some jostling at the finish and potential trouble?

Also, the charge into that first gravel sector, with it being a fair bit of downhill, that seems ripe for issues.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Such stage doesn't really belong in a GT race but while it's there lets have some fun. Some GC differences are bound to happen, ultimately Rogla to retake the leaders jersey, journalists asking confused questions.

 

[Cookster15]

Such stage doesn't really belong in a GT race

I think this is a subjective view. In my view Grand Tours are supposed to reward the best riders over all conditions - not just climbs and TTs.

Dirt and cobbles are a good way to mix up the race as long as they are minimal. The Montalcino stage in the 2010 Giro is remembered by many. I’d certainly prefer this kind of stage than another boring flat sprinters procession.

Of course if a GC favourite gets injured or loses a lot of time that would be annoying but the GC teams should work to minimise those risks to their leader. It’s part of the sport.

 

[red_flanders]

Such stage doesn't really belong in a GT race ...

What's the objection for you? Introducing too much luck/random mechanical potential? Something else?

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

Peloton thanking God that Pog isn't here...

 

[Rackham]

Call me cynical but I'm convinced these gravel races/stages are gaining prominence only because the bike manufacturers are targeting the off-road market heavily. There's a lot of hype around this stuff and it's not all 'organic growth' or even sport related. Numbers matter and dirt/gravel/off-road has a huge market.

I mean "back in the day" as they say no one used to judge Marco Pantani on his gravel riding abilities. Just saying.

I get it's exciting for neutrals but the one thing that really grinds my gears is how sheer bad luck and incidents these days are getting spun as some sort of examples of mythical "bike handling". That was also never a thing back in the 1990's. I'm also convinced that's a pretty recent trend aimed at giving cyclotourists and amateurs a bit of an ego boost along the lines of "hey look, you might not have the watts of a pro but you sure as hell can become le bike handler master. Trust me bro!" *contingent upon the purchase of high end bike equipment bien sûr

Happy gravel stage everyone. Let's hope everyone makes it through intact for the sake of the Giro.

 

[Calin897]

Someone with cyclocross/mountain bike skills will win in Siena.

 

[Unchained]

Tomorrow is a big day for the prospects of this Giro. If we get carnage with riders all over the place and big GC gaps, there’s a chance we actually get some good racing on the likes of stages 11,17, and 19. If not, we’re probably going to be bored to death until a final showdown on Finestre.

I have no idea about history or abilities of all prospects but Del Toro has been racing off road all his life, was picked to support Pogacar for Strade Bianche can't see how anyone can be picked over Pidcock but he is not in a sweet spot, he has sprinted excellent in Giro so far, has not been gapped bad and is only 1:27 back in 19th overall, he has to be marked favorite.. Too many guys to not dismiss, including Mads Pedersen.. I certainly agree that if a prospect powers off and is way down in GC maybe a surprise, but race is a third over and stage wins are more important than ever.. Nothing is going to be given away before a rest day,
It's Mads

 

[Unchained]

Sick of sleeping on the sofa!! 445 wake up!!

Hopefully Del Toro has the authority to go for it and isn’t shackled to Ayuso if he is struggling.

I am the biggest fan boy..not going to happen, GC not anything else.. Sorry Isaac

 

[Salvarani]

Someone with cyclocross/mountain bike skills will win in Siena.

Just say his name. Pidcock.

 

[Calin897]

Just say his name. Pidcock.

I mean Bernal came 3rd in Strade Bianche before his giro win in 2021.

 

[movingtarget]

Of course yes. One of the best grand tour stages of this century. How did I forget that 🤦‍♂️

And one of Evan's greatest wins along with the Fleche Wallone and Worlds win.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Would be nice to see Astana mount a significant defense of the pink jersey deep into the stage. As always, the best defense on gravel/cobble stages dictates riding at the front. Lets go, Astana.

 

[Scarponi]

And one of Evan's greatest wins along with the Fleche Wallone and Worlds win.

He spoke about this on a podcast two years ago. Practiced the finale several times as he knew the course was perfect for him. He would have done more damage if he had peaked for the Giro that year too.

 

[altigraphs]

Giro d'Italia 2025 | Stage 9: Gubbio - Siena​

🏷️ Hilly
📏 Distance: 181 km
📈 Ascent: 3,235 m
⛰️ Climbs: 2

🔗 Map and profile: https://www.altigraphs.com/en/giro-d-italia-2025/stage-9-stage-9

Poggio della Croce from Mercatale​

🏷️ Category 2
📏 Distance: 4.46 km
📈 Ascent: 326 m
📐 Average gradient: 7.33 %

🔗 Map and profile: https://www.altigraphs.com/en/climb-profile/82b14f/poggio-della-croce-from-mercatale

Vescona from Monteroni d'Arbia, by San Martino in Grania​

🏷️ Category 3
📏 Distance: 9.30 km
📈 Ascent: 314 m
📐 Average gradient: 3.39 %

🔗 Map and profile: https://www.altigraphs.com/en/climb...om-monteroni-d-arbia-by-san-martino-in-grania

 

[Cookster15]

He spoke about this on a podcast two years ago. Practiced the finale several times as he knew the course was perfect for him. He would have done more damage if he had peaked for the Giro that year too.

If I recall Evans was frustrated at having a bad Tour in 2009 and decided to see if he could ride himself into form for the Tour by riding the Giro beforehand. 2010 was the year he fractured his elbow wearing yellow. Certainly Cadel was a different (more aggressive) rider after he won those rainbow stripes. He finally delivered the following year (2011).

 

[Davesta]

Call me cynical but I'm convinced these gravel races/stages are gaining prominence only because the bike manufacturers are targeting the off-road market heavily. There's a lot of hype around this stuff and it's not all 'organic growth' or even sport related. Numbers matter and dirt/gravel/off-road has a huge market.

I mean "back in the day" as they say no one used to judge Marco Pantani on his gravel riding abilities. Just saying.

I get it's exciting for neutrals but the one thing that really grinds my gears is how sheer bad luck and incidents these days are getting spun as some sort of examples of mythical "bike handling". That was also never a thing back in the 1990's. I'm also convinced that's a pretty recent trend aimed at giving cyclotourists and amateurs a bit of an ego boost along the lines of "hey look, you might not have the watts of a pro but you sure as hell can become le bike handler master. Trust me bro!" *contingent upon the purchase of high end bike equipment bien sûr

Happy gravel stage everyone. Let's hope everyone makes it through intact for the sake of the Giro.

For me, gravel/cobble stages are exciting because they introduce a degree of unpredictability into a largely predictable sport. And I think the organisers know that too. Im sure they also know that increasing numbers of riders are riding gravel, and so are adapting their product (ie the bike race) to appeal to those people.

As for bad luck - of course we can never know if any particular mechanical/mishap is due to bad luck or rider error, but there is absolutely a skill to riding off road (and especially on a road bike), which can minimise your chances of a problem.

 

[Mayomaniac]

This is one of 3 Giro stages (this, stage 16 and the Finestre stage) actually worth watching.

 

[HashRouge]

Call me cynical but I'm convinced these gravel races/stages are gaining prominence only because the bike manufacturers are targeting the off-road market heavily. There's a lot of hype around this stuff and it's not all 'organic growth' or even sport related. Numbers matter and dirt/gravel/off-road has a huge market.

I mean "back in the day" as they say no one used to judge Marco Pantani on his gravel riding abilities. Just saying.

I get it's exciting for neutrals but the one thing that really grinds my gears is how sheer bad luck and incidents these days are getting spun as some sort of examples of mythical "bike handling". That was also never a thing back in the 1990's. I'm also convinced that's a pretty recent trend aimed at giving cyclotourists and amateurs a bit of an ego boost along the lines of "hey look, you might not have the watts of a pro but you sure as hell can become le bike handler master. Trust me bro!" *contingent upon the purchase of high end bike equipment bien sûr

Happy gravel stage everyone. Let's hope everyone makes it through intact for the sake of the Giro.

You might be right. However, I think the main reason we've got a gravel stage in the Giro this year is because of how successful the Tour's gravel stage was last year. Ultimately nothing really happened with GC gaps, but it was seriously fun and definitely got everyone talking. I'm hoping this stage will be similar, although I'd also lie a few GC gaps.

 

[Savant12]

Anything will be better than that Remco struggle stage from a few years ago.

Bambi on ice?