Giro d'Italia Giro d'Italia stage 19 Biella – Champoluc 166km

[Extinction]

I'm really glad this board exists, so I can come here after every stage to hear what all the pros did wrong and what they should do to correct it next time.

You should watch the Processo alla Tappa, the Italians are masters of explaining what went wrong and how the stage was ridden in an unacceptable manner.

 

[ice&fire]

I'm really glad this board exists, so I can come here after every stage to hear what all the pros did wrong and what they should do to correct it next time.

All I got is that this is all Vegni's fault

 

[Extinction]

All I got is that this is all Vegni's fault

He's finally retiring after this Giro!

 

[ice&fire]

He's finally retiring after this Giro!

I wonder if hIs successor will make him good

 

[YavorD]

All they had to do was swap stages 19 and 20 around (would have been akin to 2018), but they desperately want the big marquee name-value-climb stage on the penultimate day.

That's what I was thinking as well.
Even if you want to leave your main climb for Saturday, today would be ideal for a tough MTF.
If there is a stage where big MTF would be beneficial, that's this one.

 

[AmRacer]

Imagine being 21 years-old, a few years ago you were a junior, but now are riding ahead of Carapaz, Yates, etc. and are one climb away from winning the freakin Giro!

99.99 percent of the peloton cannot imagine that.

 

[Divergence]

I'm really glad this board exists, so I can come here after every stage to hear what all the pros did wrong and what they should do to correct it next time.

It is not that surprising that the pros often do very dumb things. I mean, they are not the brightest bunch. Neither are their DS's.

 

[Salvarani]

Imagine being 21 years-old, a few years ago you were a junior, but now are riding ahead of Carapaz, Yates, etc. and are one climb away from winning the freakin Giro!

Probably he saw G Thomas win the Tour years ago and thought "that could be me one day"

 

[ashhutch1997]

He's finally retiring after this Giro!

Angelo Zomegnan, it's time to make a comeback.

 

[Lequack]

Can UAE win all three GTs with different riders this year?

 

[AmRacer]

Can UAE win all three GTs with different riders this year?

Depends on which form Jonas will have at the Vuelta.

 

[Sciatic]

Simon Philip Yates you are less than one minute behind to winning a giro, which you chased for many years, please just find some charisma for once in your life

He looked like he had nothing in his legs, I think he could be in danger of losing podium spot tomorrow.

 

[Extinction]

He has a lot of merit, but I think the level of this Giro ended up being very low.

I remember when Pogacar destroyed Carapaz in the 2021 Tour. It was Pogacar's second Tour, and he was only a year older than Del Toro. That Carapaz was far superior to the current one.

We'll see tomorrow; maybe he'll destroy him, but for now, I think Del Toro's emergence is inferior to Pogacar's and more similar to Bernal's.

Bernal won a Tour that I've always thought was of a very low level. Alaphilippe and Buchman were top5 . It was Alaphilippe's only top5, and Buchman was in decline. His real rival was G.Thomas, a teammate.
This Giro reminds me of Bernal's Tour.

Del Toro's greatest opponent is Carapaz, who is coming off a difficult few years.
Simon arrived with less options and Gee finished 7 minutes behind Landa in the TDF2024, with Landa being a domestique.

It's a great achievement, but it reminds me of Bernal's Tour. Rivals in decline and in Bernal´s case, a teammate like G. Thomas.
I didn't consider Bernal a future dominator; I don't think he would have been one without accidents.

I wasn't comparing Del Toro's level to Pogacar's, who we know is better. Still, Del Toro is a very big talent and, from what I've seen so far, a pretty cool cat. So I'm rooting for the lad. Remember he came to the Giro to work for Ayuso. Any way you look at it, leading the Giro at 21 into the penultimate stage is huge. Forget about Pogacar and the Tour for now, let's just appreciate how this kid is handling being a leader in the second biggest GT (at least I consider the Giro as such) deep into the race. Plus I have a soft spot for Mexicans that grew up in poverty, then succeed.

 

[Sciatic]

¨Do you think anyone will try something tomorrow or will they hold hands up the mountains tomorrow also?

Hard to hold hands on gravel?

 

[Extinction]

99.99 percent of the peloton cannot imagine that.

Ergo a huge talent.

 

[Sciatic]

View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=M2Vrh2TuwLE

Somehow, I don’t belief he’s being completely honest 😉

 

[Sciatic]

Del Toro leads Carpaz by 43 seconds. 34 of those are bonuses. I remember the criticism to Del Toro for those sprints.
When there's no one far superior in the race, they can be important.

Good point.

 

[KZD]

Prodhomme having the season of his life, second win of his career both of them this year.
Carapaz and Del Toro once again the strongest, one of them will win GC unless something extraordinary happens tomorrow.

 

[Red Rick]

All they had to do was swap stages 19 and 20 around (would have been akin to 2018), but they desperately want the big marquee name-value-climb stage on the penultimate day.

Meh. Cervinia 2018 wasn't great either

 

[noob]

It is not that surprising that the pros often do very dumb things. I mean, they are not the brightest bunch. Neither are their DS's.

especially the ds's

 

[Red Rick]

He looked like he had nothing in his legs, I think he could be in danger of losing podium spot tomorrow.

Simon Yates literally has only been the 5th best climber at his best climbing stage and people think he's the one gonna attack first. He's in it for the podium most likely.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

So Del Toro defended himself, good! Now Carapaz must be less confident than before. The GC fight to the very end and let's hope for an epic finale.

 

[Red Rick]

So apparently the Visma DS said everything went according to plan while Simon Yates was fuming that they didn't stick to their plan?

 

[Cookster15]

Well deserved first grand tour win by Nicolas Prodhomme - he certainly earned that.

Kudos to Del Toro, I think he exceeded many people's expectations today and has shown excellent 3rd week recovery we haven't seen before.

Now it all comes back to stage 20 and Finestre. Of course Carapaz has to make it count there. His problem is his team is weaker than even a depleted UAE. Richard will have to crack Del Toro mano a mano. Simon Yates and Derek Gee are not out of it yet either.

But I think if Del Toro is in touch at the top of Finestre he will win the Giro.

 

[Sciatic]

Well deserved first grand tour win by Nicolas Prodhomme - he certainly earned that.

Kudos to Del Toro, I think he exceeded many people's expectations today and has shown excellent 3rd week recovery we haven't seen before.

Now it all comes back to stage 20 and Finestre. Of course Carapaz has to make it count there. His problem is his team is weaker than even a depleted UAE. Richard will have to crack Del Toro mano a mano. Simon Yates and Derek Gee are not out of it yet either.

But I think if Del Toro is in touch at the top of Finestre he will win the Giro.

I think either Gee or Caruso could overtake Yates, but too far back to claim overall.