Giro d'Italia Stage 7: Carrara - Montalcino (222km)

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Can anybody tell me what happened today. I missed it and I'm completely suprised about the massacre that happened here.

What happened? Falls?

Edit: just read the repot, wow! Weird
 
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I think they have a winning formula by making the stages interesting like this.. I think every single stage should have an interesting twist to it like the dirty roads today.. reminded me of photographs of olde, or perhaps just photos of Paris Roubaix. Tell the riders the race ends at the top of the mountain, but there are no roads, only goat paths, and to win the stage you have to find the golden trophy that is strapped to the underside of a mountain yak at the top of the mountain (there is a herd of yaks btw). We could see Wiggo and Millar cursing and snarling at the yaks while vino bares his teeth in rage and jumps on the back of one and rides off of a cliff and lands on doping protesters dressed as syringes. Meanwhile cadel evans gets a MTB change from the team car and wheelies to.,... uhh ok never mind you get the point.
 
May 23, 2009
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Dekker_Tifosi said:
Can anybody tell me what happened today. I missed it and I'm completely suprised about the massacre that happened here.

What happened? Falls?
First there was a tornado that split the peloton in two.
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Then some cheeky Italian fans removed large segments of pavement from the roads.
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Then it rained and everybody crashed.
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Then they finished on a street so narrow that cameras couldnt see it. No one knows what deals were cut between those buildings.
.
 
Aug 12, 2009
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autologous said:
really? quick, someone get on the phone and tell him. He needs to know about this cutting edge strategy. If only you had shared your wisdom a few years ago, Cadel would have more tours than Lance.

Wow, an internet forum, of all places, is the source of a flash of genius that will change racing as we know it.

Give it a rest bozo. Nobody cares. It is an opinion and you've been at it on multiple threads. Go top up your obviously dwindling blood supply and leave it rest.
 
Aug 12, 2009
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Winterfold said:
+1

Like a lot of peeps I think Evans is 'clean' but Vino hasn't beaten him mano a mano in this race so far but Vino is dirty...

maybe he's just experienced, fit, and hard as nails - like the WC Cuddles

Anyway, amazing stage. Fantastic racing. Evans was completely outstanding, the most attacking and brave World Champion in my adult lifetime.

EDIT also huge gutsy ride by Nibali - surely Basso should have been towing him?

I saw Nibali and Basso take turns. Naturally when they descended I saw Nibali at the front. Why? Nibali can descend like a stone. Only time I saw him mostly at the front. Could it be that Nibali is not the GC man? He has raced a full calendar and was due for a rest. Put these together and it is more than likely he knows he isn't up for three full weeks, just to make the podium, so protecting the guy on the team who is better prepared is the smarter option. We'll find out before the next rest stage.
 
Mar 11, 2009
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Over 800 posts on this single stage. Take a look in the clinic and you will see virtually nothing (Flicker etc) posted since yesterday.
If that's not a victory for pro racing and the Giro, I don't know what is.:)
 
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Mellow Velo said:
Over 800 posts on this single stage. Take a look in the clinic and you will see virtually nothing (Flicker etc) posted since yesterday.
If that's not a victory for pro racing and the Giro, I don't know what is.:)

Exactly..

This is the Giro. Bike racing as it should be.

We have more to look forward to. Unreal.

The riders gave it their all today. Thanks goes to them.
 
Jul 2, 2009
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Dekker_Tifosi said:
Can anybody tell me what happened today. I missed it and I'm completely suprised about the massacre that happened here.

What happened? Falls?

Okay, quite consistent rain throughout the day. Flens and Nicki Sorensen were in an early attack, but after the half-way point Katusha (mainly) started pulling on the peleton hard. Caused quite a sizable rift in the peleton, with about 60 riders being shelled. With around 45k to go Katusha eased off and other teams took up the chase. About 10 km before the gravel roads started some attacks were coming in and Liquigas started to put there men on the front to control the race. At that point there was a flurry of attacks, the first significant one of which I believe was Linus Gerdemann. A couple of guys (like Bakelants) tried, and succeeded in bridging.

The the moment surpreme happened. Agnoli (i believe) slipped out of a turn on the wet tarmac and pretty much brought down the entire Liquigas train on the front of the peleton (a la Sky a couple of days ago), Nibali was with them. It also, briefly, held up guys like Cadel and Sastre and others. At this point (i believe) Garzelli attacked and bridged up to Gerdemann on the front and Vino attacked to stay with him. Garzelli worked hard to keep the break alive, but Vino just hung on, clearly not wanting to work. This group was around 5 strong at the time. At this point they hit the gravel roads with around 30km to go.

Nibali was slow to get going and Liqui regrouped pretty much their entire team (Basso inc.) around him. When the Liquigas train got rolling they were down well over a minute (something like 1'15) on the Garzelli & Milram (Rohregger was pulling a lot too) led leaders, with plenty of people in the middle. While still on the gravel roads a trio which had Evans, Pozzato and some random started coming closer and closer to the leaders, and eventually, with a little solo effort, Cadel succeeded in bridging up to the leaders, which now numbered around 8. When Cadel joined the leaders there was a brief stall in the pulling, and shortly thereafter they also hit a stretch of tarmac again. This slight stall led the lead group to grow around 20 or-so, with guys like Pozzato and Cunego having joined up too. Cadel, Vino and Garzelli only big men up there. 20 k to go or so.

Meanwhile the Liqui chase wasn't going particularly well. They werent getting any help, and when the gravel roads sloped uphill Nibali typically got isolated quickly. Gap to Cadel, Vino & Cowas hovering around 1'30.

With 15k to go the gravel starts again, this time sloping heavily upwards to Montalcino. Vino, who looked tired and frustrated all the time, nevertheless had a dig and Cadel joined him, but despite both guys taking pulls a thinned out group containing Cunego, Garzelli, Gadret, Pinotti and Arroyo didn't let them get too much distance, and they were pulled back. Meanwhile Nibali had lost most of his teammates and basically formed a two-man team with Basso and an occasional person they caught who clamped on for a km or so before releasing again.

Within the final 10k Vino again attacked seriously uphill and only Evans could hold early on, but Arroyo eventually managed to bridge and the three got a decent gap. Vino struck again, and Evans clamped on, Arroyo got shelled. As they left the gravel for the last time and there was a brief decent, which allowed Cunego, Arroyo and Pinotti to get back on. Grazelli was out the back.

At this point (still on the climb) Scarponi started putting in a strong comeback (he had still been hovering inbetween the front and Nibali) with a couple of teammates early on. But now he was alone and going solo. He was really flying up that final climb.

Back on the tarmac with a few km to go Vino tried still to attack twice, but each time Cadel closed him down with considerable effort. Then the attacking ceased and they went (the 5) to the line together, despite a rather half-hearted attack from Cunego with just about 1km to go. The final few hundred metres were pretty nastily uphill and Cadel led the whole way. Vino could hold him, then Cunego couldn't close him down either. Cadel took the stage. Pinotti and Arroyo were a bit back. Garzelli and Gadret a bit further.

Scarponi final effort took him accross the line as the first person who wasn't in the lead group during the last gravel section about a minute down. A bunch of stragglers led by Rohregger and Gerdemann then slowly streamed in, having picked up guys like Karpets and Millar as hangers on. Ritchie Porte and Gustav Larsson also finished as a two man TT slighly further back, with Larsson looking far the healthier of the two. Then a dead Nibali and an even deader Ivan Basso came in two minutes down. Then we didn't see much more, but Sastre and Tondo came accross together, well down and miserable. Pozzato also seemed to have badly cracked at some point too, finishing in the mid-30s or so, but ahead of Sastre nevertheless.

That's about as detailed a summary as I can give you. Hope it made sense.

On the whole very few falls (at least on the front) except for the big Liqui one, and almost no mechanicals.
 
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Good race. A hard stage is like a good mountain stage, except for the roll of the dice.

Big up the classics men who can ride the conditions, the climbers will get their revenge in week 3.

Nice to see the rainbow jersey at the front, best all-rounder since the days of Lemond and Hinault.

I will now quote myself to propose a better discussion for all of you paunchy fellows:

Nice to see the rainbow jersey at the front,best all-rounder since the days of Lemond and Hinault.

Feel free to discuss.
 
Jul 19, 2009
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Mellow Velo said:
Over 800 posts on this single stage. Take a look in the clinic and you will see virtually nothing (Flicker etc) posted since yesterday.
If that's not a victory for pro racing and the Giro, I don't know what is.:)

+1!




etc....
 
Jul 2, 2009
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http://nos.nl/video/157627-volledige-slotfase-modderetappe.html

See the entire finale here for free. I'm 99% sure this isn't geo-restricted, but I might need a confirm for this. It's better quality than the youtube links posted a page or two back. It is however in Dutch, but that is a good thing, since it will prevent you from understanding the potificating asshole that is Mart Smeets.

It unfortunetly only covers the race after they hit the strade bianchi, and therfore doesnt include the inital Liqui fall or the attack that Garzelli & Vino were a part of immediately afterwards.
 
Mar 13, 2009
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Too bad Mollema and Weening were caught napping in the 2nd part if I read that correctly. Meh, can't be too much arsed with it though, they are probably better off going for long breaks anyway
 
May 5, 2010
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dgodave said:
First there was a tornado that split the peloton in two.
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Then some cheeky Italian fans removed large segments of pavement from the roads.
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Then it rained and everybody crashed.
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Then they finished on a street so narrow that cameras couldnt see it. No one knows what deals were cut between those buildings.
.

Hehe! Epic! :D
 
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Moondance said:
http://nos.nl/video/157627-volledige-slotfase-modderetappe.html

See the entire finale here for free. I'm 99% sure this isn't geo-restricted, but I might need a confirm for this. It's better quality than the youtube links posted a page or two back. It is however in Dutch, but that is a good thing, since it will prevent you from understanding the potificating asshole that is Mart Smeets.

It unfortunetly only covers the race after they hit the strade bianchi, and therfore doesnt include the inital Liqui fall or the attack that Garzelli & Vino were a part of immediately afterwards.

Thanks for the link Moondance.... unfortunately, it is not working in Australia. :(

Now, I just want to know why the hell SBS isn't showing the Giro live.... :mad:
 
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I hated to head out for the training ride this morning, right as they hit the white roads.......what a stage, almost made me become a Vino fan again, almost ....Nibali gained HUGE respect points. And what a ride by the world champion!

In case people are looking for the video, It's here in 5 parts (starting from Liquigas problems to the finish).......epic.

http://www.youtube.com/user/worldcyclingchannel2
 
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Linus Gerdemann deserves a mention here. Aside from the Liquigas crash, it was his attack on the descent that made the first selection. He attacked at least once more, and then made it in with the Millar/ Larsson/ Karpets group at just over a minute. So, great ride. Thomas Rohregger was there the whole time too.
 
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Dekker_Tifosi said:
Too bad Mollema and Weening were caught napping in the 2nd part if I read that correctly. Meh, can't be too much arsed with it though, they are probably better off going for long breaks anyway

Weening and Mollema are still in a good enough place. 19th and 20th respectively. Especially Mollema should be able to make improvements on that spot for tomorrow. I would like to see Mollema go for the white jersey. I think he can do it too. Agnoli is strong but will have to work for Basso/Nibali, same goes for Kiserlovski. Porte is an absolute X-factor, no idea how good he is up a real mountain, but I imagine that on the really tough stages in the final week Mollema should be able to get past him, since Porte's road experience in this department is still sooo limited.

As for Weening. Whatever. It's still decent for him. Let them try to defend, or hopefully improve, their GC placing on the mountain finish tomorrow before we slot them into a Jacky Durand role.
 
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Cobber said:
Thanks for the link Moondance.... unfortunately, it is not working in Australia. :(

Now, I just want to know why the hell SBS isn't showing the Giro live.... :mad:

Shit... so it is geo-restricted. I know the NOS' live-streams are but I didn't know their post-race website content was too. Sorry for getting the hopes up.

Either way there have seen some links to lower quality Italian youtube clips, so you can get it there too.
 
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Moondance said:
NOS. Geo-restricted. It's only post-race interviews and other snippets that they record themselves that come through the international intertubes these days. So it's proxy all the way.

Steephill site is the one to keep an eye on, the RAI links will give you the whole messy 30 minutes.

http://www.steephill.tv/giro-d-italia/#07-results-2010

BTW, you can thank the weather gods for the "vintage" race today. I bet that dry (and white) roads would have resulted in an interesting diversion, but nothing like the epic showcase that we were treated to now.

I'm starting my rain dance for when they revisit the area in 2011 now. When, not if.
 
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Francois the Postman said:
Yeah, nice to see you posting again Dim. Just don't let the "bad" bugs bite you.

Links and news only.. no (or very few opinions)..

The closing 10k by the way went up about 20 minutes after the race on our youtube.. ;) (thats one of steves links @ steephill)
 
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santacruz said:
I think they have a winning formula by making the stages interesting like this.. I think every single stage should have an interesting twist to it like the dirty roads today.. reminded me of photographs of olde, or perhaps just photos of Paris Roubaix. Tell the riders the race ends at the top of the mountain, but there are no roads, only goat paths, and to win the stage you have to find the golden trophy that is strapped to the underside of a mountain yak at the top of the mountain (there is a herd of yaks btw). We could see Wiggo and Millar cursing and snarling at the yaks while vino bares his teeth in rage and jumps on the back of one and rides off of a cliff and lands on doping protesters dressed as syringes. Meanwhile cadel evans gets a MTB change from the team car and wheelies to.,... uhh ok never mind you get the point.

just caught the highlights - what an awesome, brutal days racing. somebody needs to tell matty lloyd to man up though.
 
Mar 19, 2009
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LugHugger said:
just caught the highlights - what an awesome, brutal days racing. somebody needs to tell matty lloyd to man up though.

Don't just put it on him. He's not the only rider who's complained about today's stage. Even Vino said he didn't think a stage like today had a place in a GT.
 
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santacruz said:
I think they have a winning formula by making the stages interesting like this..

+1 I love the formula that the Giro organisers use. They don't stick to the TDF format of plain vanilla sprint stages, medium mountains and mountain stages with a TT or two thrown in. The Giro and this stage in particular proves that a GC shake-up doesn't have to happen in the mountains. It was fantastic seeing Cuddles and Vino riding so aggressively.
 

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