Giro d'Italia Stage 8: Chianciano - Monte Terminillo (189km)

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Francois the Postman said:
Wish the no-other-event-spoilers was made clearer, but seems I have to suffer those that are just incapable of letting fellow sports fans have a similar experience at a time when it suits them or is forced upon them.

If he wants to shout from an F1 rooftop, join an F1 forum. Keep your bloody mouth shut in a Stage 8 Giro thread.

Made an official suggestion in the suggestion thread to lift this no-spoiler thing from common courtesy to a proper rule with clear and harsh consequences.

Good night.

Actually dude I asked the questions about Scotland and the British election to see how bright you really are. Scottish geographic voting zones are basically sheep and the base support for New Labor (who are proven retards). Good indicator on how insightful a person really is and their ability to analyse a situation, hence ask the question I did. Go read Davis_123 reply to me. He confirmed every assumption I made about the whole incident. Someone over reacted and lost it and then others jumped on board. As I pointed out he naturally had every reason to bite back and his reply to me confirmed that was his motive. As I said, I wanted to know how bright you really are... because if one follows all the stereotypes they aren't in your favour being a Dutchman living in Scotland (non pun or stereotyping intended because it is a weird combination). Look at what I said about broadcasting and F1 in Monaco. As far as base assumptions go, you and others, made all the wrong ones. A comment was to be expected. Guess you know better for next time. Dito to Davis as well.

Davis really did get you riled up didn't he. Look at what he said...soft, because your reaction and anger suggests he had a point. As I pointed out, if he did not read yesterdays thread, which is an obvious assumption because people do have lives outside of cycling, then the first response to him needs to be calm because it is probable one could have missed the request made. Put together what he said in his reply to me and look at the question I asked. What did people expect other than a flaming after carrying on like children? Repeating the theme again...you made all the wrong assumptions and normally you don't. Social interactions mustn't be your thing. No biggie.

Next time, can someone ask nicely once and then go to town if the culprit plays the douchebag card in their response, but not before.
 
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Timmy-loves-Rabo said:
the dutch shall trump all of this by winning the world cup. YEAAHHH BOYYY!
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Yeah go the WC in the Saffer homeland. I'd suggest taking a gun in case you get mugged if your stepping foot in South Africa. I know where I'd prefer to be. Europe watching cycling. Of course the Dutch will win (something). They have RvP and Arsenal players rule all!:D Makes up for the bike riders...don't worry Gesink will win a stage at the Tour.
 
Oct 29, 2009
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davis_123 said:
I am of the opinion if you venture onto any forums after a sporting event you want to watch is complete then you do so at your own risk.

Here's the dirty little secret: your opinion matters not.

You are posting on a forum with rules. You broke one of the big don'ts. And instead of saying "whoops+edit+sorry", you start with "edit+insult" (breaking rule #2). You start the avalanche (including quotes), you swallow. You don't start to kick around.

You are still not getting that people have lives/routines/tv-schedules that are different from yours, for very good reasons. And that the no-spoilers rule is here for that same very good reason.

We want to give other the opportunity to enjoy themselves too, not ruin it.

You're opinion about people's inability to grasp that there are always people like you who simply-don't-get-it means nada.

There are a ton of mayor sport events happening all the time, and as a rule, most of us have the capacity to contain ourselves for the benefit of the enjoyment of others. All the time. Consistently.

I hope you pick up that skill soon.
 
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Galic Ho said:
Yeah go the WC in the Saffer homeland. I'd suggest taking a gun in case you get mugged if your stepping foot in South Africa. I know where I'd prefer to be. Europe watching cycling. Of course the Dutch will win (something). They have RvP and Arsenal players rule all!:D Makes up for the bike riders...don't worry Gesink will win a stage at the Tour.
Maybe we won't have to wait until the Tour. Mollema is on the rise, slowly riding his way into the white jersey.
 
Oct 29, 2009
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My last one on this, as I'd prefer to move to the appropriate thread on this.

Galic Ho said:
Good indicator on how insightful a person really is and their ability to analyse a situation......
He confirmed every assumption I made about the whole incident. Someone over reacted and lost it and then others jumped on board.

OK.

David posts.

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Why do I bother coming here if people are just going to spoil sporting events that are in no way connected to this. Seriously what can that possibly achieve except **** off people who, like me, don't get to watch the race live?

No spoilers. Delete this post

Then ACF starts to mock those who were annoyed.

We now have a third poster saying he's also annoyed, and why, and concludes "please man, don't":

WTF man? Didn't others have this conversation with you the other night or was that someone else? I was watching the F1 on channel 10 as the tv next to my pc doesn't have a set-top box, Giro feed and posting on here at the same time and you just spoiled the last 20 laps for me. Please man just never post spoilers from other sports

4th poster points out the drawback of quoting spoilers without getting involved. Everyone still calm but annoyed. No insults. NONE.

The we get the edit:

edit* apparently I missed the "cry me a river" sign at the door, Seriously Harden The **** Up

Instead of saying sorry, he adds a post to say that IF people cared they would have watched already. To those that cared enough to be annoyed and had obviously good private reasons why they hadn't yet.

So David is a sport fan and a people skillz man.

Still, the next reply is remarkably calm:

C'mon man. It's not cool to spoil ****... Common forum courtesy.

As are the next ones, all people saying they were annoyed, and at best saying that the edit-tone and consequent reply was off-colour too.

David post again, saying that the others were just "too stupid".

You and him are now trying to tell me and them that we were the ones who were whack out of line when we had it with this guy, and he was only responding out of self-defence. As no-one had asked politely, it was people who were reacting so OTT that David just snapped.

And you keep having a fixation with the Scottish sheep here, that I will keep sidestepping.

Right.

Galic Ho said:
Good indicator on how insightful a person really is and their ability to analyse a situation

Hey, we agree.
 
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I like the elaborate and strange celebrations, Sorensen had a good one, I was confused but it felt like it had purpose, lol :)
 
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jaylew said:
So who has the uglier climbing style, C Sorensen or Mancebo?

Sorrensen looks fine compared to Mancebo. He does have Mancebo beat hands down in the facial expression contest, though.
 
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goggalor said:
Aussies in three of four jerseys? Not bad.
We own Britania!
Moondance said:
I agree. Apparantly is was Mussolini's favorite vacation spot... Which means it must be horrible :p

:eek:

Evans did say he was a bit tired and was hoping for a rest. Lil' Santa did a good ride!
 
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Originally Posted by Trunnions View Post
Following the universal acclaim (spectators, riders, and media) for yesterdays Classic white gravel road stage within a Grand Tour, what are the chances of the TdF daring to follow suit?

Potomac said:
If it didn't rain it wouldn't have gotten "universal acclaim" as you put it.

I disagree, even without the mud, white gravel roads would really spice up the mix.

Try it on skinny tyres at 40kmh and you'll see how tricky they are.

Not just the unpredictability of adhesion to the surface, but the gravel flicked into your eyes, and derailleurs, lock-ups when braking, punctures galore, back-wheel-spin whilst climbing, and motos throwing up dust.

It doesn't have to be cyclocross, just the slight change of surface would be a wonderful innovation for a stage of the TdF.

Sadly, can't see it happening though; look how the Teams squealed when briefly deprived of their radios in 2009.

You can be certain the "softies" racing in California today are very glad they missed the Giro.

Will Cadel dare to try the Paris-Roubaix next year?
 
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Moondance said:
Seriously... What were you expecting? He never was a climber, even in his EPO days.

But that wasn't a real climb in relation to others in the race. I thought he might be able to hang today better than that. I didn't expect a win or even for him to be in the front group, but I expected he could do as well as Wigans...guess not.
 
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Francois the Postman said:
The Eurosport crew addressed that question a couple of days ago, and they said that when it was done without the canned sound, it looked weirdly odd, it just didn't "feel" right. It needed the ambient (canned) sound to make it appear more normal to us. Ever since, they have added it.

Our brains are funny like that. We usually don't notice ambient sounds as we tend to filter them out, but we miss them when they are gone, but are expected. If you ever watched a poorly dubbed movie that replaced speech and sounds, your head will probably be telling you that something just "ain't quite right" and the movie will feel oddly flat.

The volume level is kinda important to me. There is probably a magic formula somewhere that dictates how loud it can be before appreciates flips into too irritating (for too many people). If it gets to you now, it seems you are in the unfortunate minority.

So it's not really there to remind us, but when done right, to stop us from reminding us. Most of us, that is.

Ha, I am always in a minority... and I particularily loath helicopters (I live in the country along what happens to have become a helo pilot navigation training route!!)

I actually have no problem with out of synch dubbed movies, so maybe my mind doesn't work in the same way as those of the Eurosport crew. The thing is, minds are (or should be) very adaptable and although initially it feels weird to them to watch aerial shots of the bike race without hearing blade flap, if they persisited for a couple of stages I expect that they would no longer be bothered by the lack of flap. Or not. But it sounds like the issue is settled and I will just have to live with it?
 
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Moondance said:
Seriously... What were you expecting? He never was a climber, even in his EPO days.

Well, he was a climber. And that was during his EPO days. Check the results of 2003's Dauphine Libere. He was on podium there.