Giro d'Italia Stage 8: Sapri-Tropea, 217km

[will10]

I have no hard time believing and agreeing with popo. I just wish Popovych had the guts to tell Machado first hand, whatever he said to the press. After all they are roomies.

He almost certainly has done?

 

[rxgqgxnyfz]

Bit harsh isn't it ?

That's Popo for ya

At first i thought that was a translation error and checked the russian original, but no -- he meant it

 

[No_Balls]

Varoslaw Popoych gave interview about Machado about his chances and his last stages :

How is your team's main rate Tiago Machado?



Bit harsh isn't it ?

Source: http://translate.google.ru/translat...ovich-itogi-pervoj-nedeli-dzhiro.html&act=url

ROFLMAO

This is at par with, well, Paris-Nice: You have a lot to learn Thiago (although in a more harsher and brutal kind of way)

And they told us that a special "someone" was a bad teammate when attacking a special "someone" in the mountains. How will it sound this time around you might wonder? Now they have bad team spirit for real. Talk about back-stabbing

Was is it with Bruyneel governed team and bad-mouthing anyway?

 

[rxgqgxnyfz]

It's not badmouthing, people.

It's about Popo saying that Machado has to man the **** up and stop being a pushover kid.

 

[meandmygitane]

Vibo Valentia isn't at the top of that hill, but after it. The 3D effect makes it look different, you have to look at the marks on the "front" of the profile.

Yes, I'd guess you have to draw a imaginary continuation of the line behind the hill
I looked at the Cronotabella and realized my mistake.
Usually the profiles look fine but this looks wrong.. to my eyes at least, Iäm not sure why one couldn't have all information on the one line in the foreground?

Ah, well, Giro's profiles are so much better than all other races, the tour included.

 

[Ferminal]

I just saw Cassani's preview, it definitely looks different to 2005. They hit the climb, turn right, then a small run towards a left hand hairpin and after that looks to be the steepest part.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Sounds like Machado is the 2nd Remmert Wielinga... afraid to ride in peloton

He's never truly had to ride in the péloton before. He used to attack almost every day in Portugal. I think he has little confidence in his bike handling skills too, he's not a particularly bad bike handler, he's just not too sure of himself just yet. I'm thinking more Mosquera and Moncoutié than Wielinga, but it's not a bad comparison per se.

 

[rghysens]

There is a section of 15% in that 600m at 8%

It's exactly the same hill as in 2005
You want to know the result?

1. Bettini (blew everyone away
2. McEwen +0.03s

then a mix of GC riders and sprinters. A lot of gaps in the peloton, halfway the peloton gap was even 30 seconds.

The thing was, everyone expected a sprint, and the only puncheur in front was Bettini, the GC riders didn't expect anything. So the only riders who could go with Bettini, were too far behind to react. They did overtake many of the sprinters though

No, in 2005 everyone expected Bettini. He said before the start of the giro to everyone who wanted to hear it that his aim was the stage victory and maglia rosa in Tropea.
Besides, in 2005 they finished 1km earlier, 300m after the top of the hill, not 1.3 km after the top.

So probably a sprint with a big group (half of the peloton?)

 

[will10]

I just saw Cassani's preview, it definitely looks different to 2005. They hit the climb, turn right, then a small run towards a left hand hairpin and after that looks to be the steepest part.

Have you got a link to the preview? I've just looked on the Gazetta site but couldn't see it. Cheers

 

[Mellow Velo]

So, the consensus is mid sized bunch sprint over puncheur paradise?
Sounds like the Giro could do with the odd Bennati or two, otherwise it seems a question of whether Cav will get up to crash Petacchi's party.

Marchado? Well, it kind of explains how he lost half a minute yesterday.
Surprised by Popo's unflinching appraisal, mid race. Telling everyone in the race how to upset Tiago's rhythm? Has he exposed the Portugese's achilles heel, or is it a bit of a bluff before the big mountains?

Either way, I expect to see him go up the Dolomite roads in an early attack.

 

[insideout leadout]

Break of the day got 4.20 over the bunch.

Leonardo Giordani Farnese Vini
Mirko Selvaggi Vacansoleil

Prediction: Doomed.

 

[Parrulo]

really harsh words by popo. he could tell that to machado himself and give him some advice since he is a more experienced rider instead of going to the press. still there will be no peloton in the dolomites just small groups so i guess he will do just fine there

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

ROFLMAO

This is at par with, well, Paris-Nice: You have a lot to learn Thiago (although in a more harsher and brutal kind of way)

And they told us that a special "someone" was a bad teammate when attacking a special "someone" in the mountains. How will it sound this time around you might wonder? Now they have bad team spirit for real. Talk about back-stabbing

Was is it with Bruyneel governed team and bad-mouthing anyway?

looks like machado will be next soler/wielinga

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

He's never truly had to ride in the péloton before. He used to attack almost every day in Portugal. I think he has little confidence in his bike handling skills too, he's not a particularly bad bike handler, he's just not too sure of himself just yet. I'm thinking more Mosquera and Moncoutié than Wielinga, but it's not a bad comparison per se.

wielinga's bike handling also wasn't bad, it's all about in your head with them. insecure

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

really harsh words by popo. he could tell that to machado himself and give him some advice since he is a more experienced rider instead of going to the press. still there will be no peloton in the dolomites just small groups so i guess he will do just fine there

he did say it to him in his face

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

The reason I'm drawing the comparison with Wielinga is that, before Wielinga did a grand Tour, he never had trouble even though of his fear of riding in the peloton.

But in Grand Tours, it all becomes more hectic and riders who are insecure get scared..

 

[Eshnar]

the break has 10'15''

 

[taiwan]

TBH his bike handling won't matter much on the Zoncolan.

 

[will10]

The reason I'm drawing the comparison with Wielinga is that, before Wielinga did a grand Tour, he never had trouble even though of his fear of riding in the peloton.

But in Grand Tours, it all becomes more hectic and riders who are insecure get scared..

+1
Going back for bottles in a 200+ man peloton is a little daunting.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

TBH his bike handling won't matter much on the Zoncolan.

yeah but it will before the climb starts

 

[Parrulo]

his bike handling skills aren't great but they are better then anton's and solers. he has fallen twice this year in the giro but according to him he didn't fall a single time last year nor this season till the giro. i think its just the pressure that is making him nervous or more nervous then the usual. hopefully with a few more stages he gets used. otherwise he will have a big problem.

also 1 of his falls in this giro was in the strade bianche descent which was a bit of a lottery

also i haven't slept in more then 48 hours so forgive me if there are more missing words/grammar erros/typos then usual on my posts

 

[Ferminal]

Have you got a link to the preview? I've just looked on the Gazetta site but couldn't see it. Cheers

It was shown on the Raisport opening of the stage, I looked on their Giro site but couldn't see it. Maybe they will show it again when live coverage begins.

 

[Tuarts]

Does anyone have the link to the cyclingnews live text updates on the mobile?

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Duarte gives up
Knee injury too much.

Every year you hope, but again and again the Colombians keep crashing out

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

man horrible. let's hope he will make incredible vuelta. seem to be always curse on colombians in grand tours