Giro d'Italia Stage 9: Messina - Etna, 169km (let the race begin!)

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Dekker_Tifosi said:
Easy grade? I watched back the video of the final kilometers and took the profile of the climb with them.

Contador initial acceleration: At a 7,8% part (one of the steepest parts of the final 6km)
Contadors acceleration that dropped Scarponi: At a 7,5% part (again on of the steepest parts)
Contadors in between acceleration to try and drop Rujano: 3km before the finish at a 7,2% part (2nd final steeper part)
Contadors final acceleration that dropped Rujano: 5% part (just after the final 7,2% part at 2km), then going on to a 1,5% part. (and even then Rujano was coming back again in the final 500 meters)

Your words don't add up to the facts unfortunately

AHHH, not again!

The average grade was 6%. Not a hard climb. In addition there were spots, near the top, when the grade was below that. In addition the last 1200 meters were a false flat, practically a descent in certain parts.

The steepest part was 11.8% for 600 meters.

Get your facts straight, not a hard climb for the pros.
 
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I apologize in advance if this is considered off topic but this seems as appropriate a place as any given the circumstances. I haven't posted hardly at all in many months since meat-gate. I am akin to Tiger Woods fans who only watch golf if he is playing (and by the way, he limped off injured this week after only 9 holes and I would bet the ratings plummeted).

After meat-gate, I figured I was through with watching for good. I was sour on him and the sport in general and pretty much heart broken. But I had a feeling I was going to get stood up today by my friend (I was right) so I popped on the feed waiting for a phone to ring. Good thing she never called. AC has me back in to watching, at least when he is in it, lock stock and barrel.

The only difference between him and a Marvel comic book super hero is he is real and rides a bicycle. Un-freaking-real.

If he gets a ban, it may be the right thing to do, and I am not saying they shouldn't do it because guys like me won't watch, but some guys like me won't watch. I might, just a little more casually. And guys like you shouldn't really care. I'm just sayin'.
 
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Don't see why Rujano's performace is being belittled. The attack he made to get his initial advantage wasn't free, and then he was able to do a very compotent job of living with Contador's subsequent accelerations. Scarponi blew after bridging to Contador, and noone else accelerated more than once, Nibali only in the last k. Rujano was really strong, and tactically successful whether or not he expected it to play out that way.
 
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Altitude said:
Rodriguez a surprise. Menchov also. This could be a very boring Giro afterall

It's early still. I'm hoping they both improve later in the race.
 
rhubroma said:
AHHH, not again!

The average grade was 6%. Not a hard climb. In addition there were spots, near the top, when the grade was below that. In addition the last 1200 meters were a false flat, practically a descent in certain parts.

The steepest part was 11.8% for 600 meters.

Get your facts straight, not a hard climb for the pros.

You are talking about averages, i'm picking out the exact spots on that climb where Contador attacked.
Is it that hard to understand? The AVERAGE is 6%, but that doesn't mean the entire climb is a steady 6%
I guess you fail at understand the word AVERAGE. :D Too funny

You didn't even respond to the fact that I compared the spots where Contador attacked to the profile. At the steeper 7% parts of the climb. You just repeat of what you just said instead of replying with anything.

So all the remains is admit you were wrong or just stay away from this topic
 
Dekker_Tifosi said:
You are talking about averages, i'm picking out the exact spots on that climb where Contador attacked.
Is it that hard to understand? The AVERAGE is 6%, but that doesn't mean the entire climb is a steady 6%
I guess you fail at understand the word AVERAGE. :D Too funny

You didn't even respond to the fact that I compared the spots where Contador attacked to the profile. At the steeper 7% parts of the climb. You just repeat of what you just said instead of replying with anything.

So all the remains is admit you were wrong or just stay away from this topic

Well, naturally, AC attacked on the steepest part of a climb, that wasn't that steep. :rolleyes:

Your attempts to produce a cogent analysis of the race, only demonstrates how you utterly failed to grasp the event. Because you don't understand what you see.

And I'm only putting it mildly.
 
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Parrulo said:
any video with the last k's of the race? from a bit before contador attacked would be pretty cool

steephill.tv will have a collection in various languages.

At youtube I just watch Universal Sports highlights of the Contador bits (the camera was on other a lot in live coverage)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6mWp9_xYwg

Here's the Gazzetta TV version.

http://video.gazzetta.it/pistolero-contador-segno-etna-/bb01f174-7f0d-11e0-9b2d-e00bc5b9b1eb

But like I said, Steve at Steephill always comes up with a collection
 
Jul 18, 2010
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rhubroma said:
Well, naturally, AC attacked on the steepest part of a climb, that wasn't that steep. :rolleyes:

Your attempts to produce a cogent analysis of the race, only demonstrates how you utterly failed to grasp the event. Because you don't understand what you see.

And I'm only putting it mildly.
If there's anyone who is utterly failing at understand the race it's you.

I'm pointing out that Contador attacked at the steeper parts, got 25 meters but couldn't hold it on Rujano, meaning Rujano couldn't follow the accelerations, but matched Contadors steady pace, coming back multiple times. Proving he would probably not get immediately dropped if he stayed in the peloton. But be able to match the pace just the same.
 
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just some guy said:
After watching today finish.

Sella will go hard and fast on the highest % contador will go and then solo to the win

Contadorrrrrrrrrrrr for the win

I was sort of close
 
Jul 18, 2010
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I think the confusion/argument is over whether or not Rujano would've been able to stick with Contador from the point of his initial attack for the same amount of time/distance as he did from when he was overtaken by Contador and Scarponi. I think.;)