Giro GC turnarounds: where do you see them happenning?

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My prediction for top 10 after today:

1 Contador
2 Scarponi
3 Nibali
4 Rujano
5 Anton
6 Kreuziger
7 Rodriguez
8 Arroyo
9 Gadret
10 Nieve
 
Midnightfright said:
I Think Scarponi and Nibali is goign to be very very close and will be decided in the TT. Except for that i can see Anton edging into top 10 Menchov will do a good timetrial and edge up Nieve will drop down after his performance today it took alot out of him. My final predictions and i know its awfully early are

1. Contador
2.Nibali
3.Scarponi
4.Menchov
5.Kreuizger
6.Gadret
7.Arroyo
8.Anton
9.Sivistov
10.Rujano

Just to see which one of us who will be closest, here is my top 10:

1. Contador
2. Scarponi
3. Nibali
4. Gadret
5. Rujano
6. Menchov
7. Kreuziger
8. Anton
9. Rodriguez
10. Arroyo
 
Dekker_Tifosi said:
Lol, Kreuziger in 5, Sivtsov back in the top 10 etc.. It's completely hilarious.

Not gonna happen.

Obviously u disagree I'm just stating my opinion. In glad its hilarious. It's reli just a bit of fun. Why don't u post your proposed top 10
 
Squire said:
Just to see which one of us who will be closest, here is my top 10:

1. Contador
2. Scarponi
3. Nibali
4. Gadret
5. Rujano
6. Menchov
7. Kreuziger
8. Anton
9. Rodriguez
10. Arroyo

Should be good fun. We should both revist our predictions at the end of the tour and see how well we have done.
 
Midnightfright said:
Obviously u disagree I'm just stating my opinion. In glad its hilarious. It's reli just a bit of fun. Why don't u post your proposed top 10
The way this Giro is going it's not easy to predict. But certainly, guys who have been going backwards the past few days, especially Kreuziger and Sivtsov, won't be going forward.

I think

1 Contador
2 Scarponi
3 Nibali
4 Rujano
5 Gadret
6 Menchov
7 Kreuziger
8 Arroyo
9 Anton
10 Kruijswijk ;) (pure hope, not gonna happen tho)

(11 Rodriguez after horrible ITT)
 
Dekker_Tifosi said:
The way this Giro is going it's not easy to predict. But certainly, guys who have been going backwards the past few days, especially Kreuziger and Sivtsov, won't be going forward.

I think

1 Contador
2 Scarponi
3 Nibali
4 Rujano
5 Gadret
6 Menchov
7 Kreuziger
8 Arroyo
9 Anton
10 Kruijswijk ;) (pure hope, not gonna happen tho)

(11 Rodriguez after horrible ITT)

I look forward to revisiting these predictions in a week and no doubt u will be mocking my selections then as well.:)
 
Jul 16, 2010
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Arnout said:
Who cares about TTs anyway, they're the boring part of stage racing.

I'm looking forward to a time trial this Giro actually. Scarponi needs to lose a couple of more minutes :D
 
May 19, 2011
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Well frankly i think that Anton will end up in 7th after Nevegal already
Nieve will drop down as well
I just cant believe Rujano can tt
Rodriguez i knew was horrific but Gadret is worse! you would have thought a shorter effort would suit an ex cyclocrosser but hey cant wait to watch someone worse than Rodriguez
 
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Dekker_Tifosi said:
The way this Giro is going it's not easy to predict. But certainly, guys who have been going backwards the past few days, especially Kreuziger and Sivtsov, won't be going forward.

I think

1 Contador
2 Scarponi
3 Nibali
4 Rujano
5 Gadret
6 Menchov
7 Kreuziger
8 Arroyo
9 Anton
10 Kruijswijk ;) (pure hope, not gonna happen tho)

(11 Rodriguez after horrible ITT)

Guys going backwards in the last two days may overtake guys going backwards from now on. It all depends on who goes backwards the fastest :D

There's someone around here who uses as a signature a joke about Rojas and Bennatti going to sprint. Rodríguez and Arroyo might do something similar in the last ITT. And Arroyo won't be better than Purito over the Finestre.
 
Gadret will go well on the Finestre though. It's because he's stocky compared to pin Rodriguez, for his bad ITT which both have bad ones. I think Le Mevel might also somehow poke through too to the top 10. I hope Kruisjswijk gets into the white jersey too. I like Kreuziger and wanted him to go well, as he was under Vino's tutelage but he is outgunned so far.
 
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greenedge said:
Gadret will go well on the Finestre though. It's because he's stocky compared to pin Rodriguez, for his bad ITT which both have bad ones. I think Le Mevel might also somehow poke through too to the top 10. I hope Kruisjswijk gets into the white jersey too. I like Kreuziger and wanted him to go well, as he was under Vino's tutelage but he is outgunned so far.

Stocky is quite an overstatement, but compared to Purito the discrepancy is still enormous!

I remember last Giro when Gadret was with Nibbles and Basso and co. on the Mortirolo, Sean Kelly was unsure if Gadret was able to consistently hang on and excel on the brutal Giro mountains. If Gadret hasn't put the doubters to rest by now, then nothing will.

Regarding his TT, he lost 1:17 to Erik Larsson in a 15km last Giro, but only 30 some odd seconds to Basso. I'm confident he won't lose more than 90 seconds to his closest GC competition (Menchov, Nibbles, etc.)
 
Apr 11, 2010
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do you guys think nibali can tt that are left well enough to take 2nd from scarponi or is it all over for him and he will stay in third?
 
Menchov will be the obvious mover as he jumps over some ordinary time triallists. Don't see much else changing except the battle for second which I think Nibali can still grab even though his climbing has been hit and miss so far. Scarponi has had a few off days as well so that battle should be a good one during the next week. Dunno whether Anton can improve much more. His team have done well with two stage wins anyway. Probably more than they expected.
 
Jun 16, 2009
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A breakaway in the last week will push someone up the standings. Someone will crack as well. There will be a lot of tired people going into the final week.
 
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1. Contador
2. Scarponi
3. Nibali
4. Gadret
5. Rujano
6. Menchov
7. Nieve
8. Kreuziger
9. Rodriguez
10. Anton
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11. Arroyo
12. Kruijswik
13. Siutsov
14. Cataldo
15. Dupont
 
Top 3 is quite clear and first two weeks showed which are the best riders. I don't think many changes are possible.

The race is quite boring - Contador dominates and gets time in all major mountain stages with the same scenario. If Contador were not allowed to start Giro then Italians would wheelsuck as they almost never attacked each other.

I still think this Giro is too hard - possibly with lesser MTF (three instead of five) in first two weeks the race could have been more open. 4 or 5 MTF and 2 GC stages with decent should be enough for GT. It is too much to have too many brutal stages in the same tour - Zoncolan, yesterday's five climb stage, Finestre + Sestriers, Etna stage, uphill ITT. I hope organizers will go into right path in future.
 
guncha said:
I still think this Giro is too hard - possibly with lesser MTF (three instead of five) in first two weeks the race could have been more open. 4 or 5 MTF and 2 GC stages with decent should be enough for GT. It is too much to have too many brutal stages in the same tour - Zoncolan, yesterday's five climb stage, Finestre + Sestriers, Etna stage, uphill ITT. I hope organizers will go into right path in future.
With 3 mtfs instead of 5 the race would be closed anyway. When there's a guy far stronger than the others, the MTFs number is irrelevant. The GC was already closed after Etna.
However, having plenty of tough stages increases the (slight) chance that someone cracks and change the GC.
 
May 19, 2011
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seaby71 said:
do you guys think nibali can tt that are left well enough to take 2nd from scarponi or is it all over for him and he will stay in third?

there are also two stages with downhill finish, it might play into his hand with bonus seconds
 

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Eshnar said:
With 3 mtfs instead of 5 the race would be closed anyway. When there's a guy far stronger than the others, the MTFs number is irrelevant. The GC was already closed after Etna.
However, having plenty of tough stages increases the (slight) chance that someone cracks and change the GC.

I have to agree. The Giro was already won when Contador signed the start sheet. I don't think any scenario would really change that.

I'm interested to see who makes the top 5. I'd love for Gadaret to get in and I think it's a lock that Menchov will.
 

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