craig1985 said:Will Tommy D finish the race, and if not, how many threads will there be?
In recent years, intermediate sprints have only really had any importance either when a contender for the green jersey has been in the breakaway, or when there have been no riders ahead of the peleton. Changing from 2 or 3 intermediate sprints where only 3 riders can score points on each, to a single intermediate sprint with more riders getting points means that these sprint points have a greater significance in relation to the competition for the green jersey.Boeing said:Let's discuss the reason TDF reduced intermediate sprints from 3 to one on flat stages?
What is the reasoning and now the points significance?
Boeing said:Let's discuss the reason TDF reduced intermediate sprints from 3 to one on flat stages?
What is the reasoning and now the points significance?
ElChingon said:I also think it to change the race tactics overall. We've all read about how people think the stages are too methodical and boring, this will cause some changes in tactics for the Green jersey which might also have other fall outs or at least there is hope there will be.
The points will be as follows:
Flat stages will have just one intermediate sprint, but it will be worth 20 points to the first rider across the line, and the first 15 will score points. The intention is to have green jersey favorites needing to sprint twice during the day to score well. Points awarded at the finish of flat stages will also increase, from 35 points for the winner in 2010 to 45. Medium mountain stages will award 30 points to the winner, high mountain stages and individual time trials 20 points.
Archibald said:are they really expecting the teams targeting the green jersey to control the entire flat stage and thereby destroying any likelyhood of breakaways?
surely that would increase the average speed on the flat stages and seriously smash up the climbers before the mountains
theoldbiker said:HI , this is my first post here so please be kind.
I recently watched the british road championship from the steepest part of the course and was horrified how close some of the spectators got to the path of the riders, it seems only a matter of time before a tragedy occurs.
On the TDF the steep climbs also seem a hugely risky area, a risk assessment would i believe bring about big changes in the way spectators are allowed access to some of the worlds best athletes.
is there a better way to protect the riders and allow spectators to see the race?
Mambo95 said:While it may seem as though it's only a matter of time before there's a tragedy, amazingly incidents are very rare. Fans may seem unruly at times, but they tend to behave themselves. Cyclists seem to hit dogs more often than spectators. They're far, far more likely to crash into each other.
On the bigger climbs at the Tour (and other big races) at the end the crowd will be behind barriers, but generally anything more would be a cure for a problem which doesn't really exist. And the closeness of the crowd to the riders is a big feature of cycling's appeal.
Offtheback said:Yes, I would like to see that: the climbers having to spend a lot of time sucking in lots of air hanging on to team mates' wheels, before they hit the bottom of the mountains. This is what often happened in some of the older tours. More recent trends of peleton control have the climbers reach the mountain fairly fresh, to dance away from the bigger boys.
Dekker_Tifosi said:Who's got the biggest chance of the top 10 contenders to drop out with some sort of bad luck?
1) Cadel Evans - Aside from two 2nd places, the list of bad luck and Evans in grand tours is endless. Bad days, illness, falls, everything happened to him.
2) Fränk Schleck - Falls whenever he even spots a corner. Miraculously still alive after falling into a ravine in the TdS a few years back.
3) Robert Gesink - 4 GT's - 3 Falls Tour 09 (broken hand - withdrawn), Vuelta 09 (hole in knee - finished but not good) and Tour 10 (broken ulna, lost time in cobbles and lost some fitness). He doesn't fall often in races, but when he falls, it's usually in a grand tour and usually with a serious injury.
4) Tom Danielson - He usually finds a way to get ill or fall of his bike. The older American version of Gesink?
Feel free to add more riders to the list![]()
ElChingon said:I also think it to change the race tactics overall. We've all read about how people think the stages are too methodical and boring, this will cause some changes in tactics for the Green jersey which might also have other fall outs or at least there is hope there will be.
The points will be as follows:
Flat stages will have just one intermediate sprint, but it will be worth 20 points to the first rider across the line, and the first 15 will score points. The intention is to have green jersey favorites needing to sprint twice during the day to score well. Points awarded at the finish of flat stages will also increase, from 35 points for the winner in 2010 to 45. Medium mountain stages will award 30 points to the winner, high mountain stages and individual time trials 20 points.
Archibald said:anything that reduces the chances of breakaways even further isn't something I'd like to see.
Dekker_Tifosi said:Who's got the biggest chance of the top 10 contenders to drop out with some sort of bad luck?
1) Cadel Evans - Aside from two 2nd places, the list of bad luck and Evans in grand tours is endless. Bad days, illness, falls, everything happened to him.
2) Fränk Schleck - Falls whenever he even spots a corner. Miraculously still alive after falling into a ravine in the TdS a few years back.
3) Robert Gesink - 4 GT's - 3 Falls Tour 09 (broken hand - withdrawn), Vuelta 09 (hole in knee - finished but not good) and Tour 10 (broken ulna, lost time in cobbles and lost some fitness). He doesn't fall often in races, but when he falls, it's usually in a grand tour and usually with a serious injury.
4) Tom Danielson - He usually finds a way to get ill or fall of his bike. The older American version of Gesink?
Feel free to add more riders to the list![]()