Greg Lemond: Tour legend and anti-doping crusader

[Mellow Velo]

Tut tut..you should know that in acf94's world anyone Spanish (or Dutch) who beats CE = suspicious. So doping was especially rife this year.

Most of last year, too, but somehow, they must all have managed to forget to top up for the small matter of the World Championship!

 

[Galic Ho]

Just to point out, those 'technicalities' are actually rights guaranteed by the Constitution of the United States.

Lance rarely raced in the USofA. You need to brush up on judicial boundaries and international laws and sporting authoritative bodies.

The old fella can thank his lucky stars the French never had a reported positive test. He'd have been in the slammer for a few nights at a minimum.

 

[Galic Ho]

How does Lemond say that things are cleaner now especially after some performances at the tour this year? Not trying to implicat anyone but I think he is talking shhit!

Stop generalising dude. Who, where, when and why? Name them. Start a thread. Lance looked clean this Tour. So did the rest of the Shack. Contador looked clean. All the riders struggled in comparison to other years.

 

[happychappy]

Moose McKnuckles, your meltdown amuses me.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

How does Lemond say that things are cleaner now especially after some performances at the tour this year? Not trying to implicat anyone but I think he is talking shhit!

what are you talking about?? what performances?? re you even aware that wattages are down in the last 3 years? despite better equipment, training methods, ad diet programs??

cycling is getting very clean. no doubt the cleanest sport in the world by far now.

 

[Biffins]

what are you talking about?? what performances?? re you even aware that wattages are down in the last 3 years? despite better equipment, training methods, ad diet programs??

cycling is getting very clean. no doubt the cleanest sport in the world by far now.

Human Growth Hormone is still, by and large, undetectable if used carefully.

http://californiawatch.org/watchblog/experts-doubt-test-human-growth-hormone-athletes

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Human Growth Hormone is still, by and large, undetectable if used carefully.

http://californiawatch.org/watchblog/experts-doubt-test-human-growth-hormone-athletes

like I said the facts don't lie. everything indicates cycling is getting cleaner and why didn't riders use growthhormones in the epo time period?? Never even heard willy voet about that.

 

[Race Radio]

Human Growth Hormone is still, by and large, undetectable if used carefully.

http://californiawatch.org/watchblog/experts-doubt-test-human-growth-hormone-athletes

Please tell us how HGH can increase output by 13% like EPO?

 

[auscyclefan94]

Stop generalising dude. Who, where, when and why? Name them. Start a thread. Lance looked clean this Tour. So did the rest of the Shack. Contador looked clean. All the riders struggled in comparison to other years.

I can't believe I am hearing this... People saying that cycling is very clean when I could pull out a thread from a few months ago which said all top riders are on the juice. If I point the finger at anybody I will get shot down in flames.

I just find that hard to believe. Your dreaming if you think such performances are clean. I can't believe that i am having to tell certain posters this but this thread needs to go the clinic.

Stuff it, maybe alberto looked like he struggled more because he had more "competition" in the mountains.


I am just waiting to be shot down in flames!

 

[TRDean]

I can't believe I am hearing this... People saying that cycling is very clean when I could pull out a thread from a few months ago which said all top riders are on the juice. If I point the finger at anybody I will get shot down in flames.

I just find that hard to believe. Your dreaming if you think such performances are clean. I can't believe that i am having to tell certain posters this but this thread needs to go the clinic.

Stuff it, maybe alberto looked like he struggled more because he had more "competition" in the mountains.


I am just waiting to be shot down in flames!

Dude, what is wrong with you? You are coming off like an idiot. You can't name a rider...so it is everyone eh? Except CE? I call BS on that line of thought. If CE had won he most certainly would be doped too eh? You are really starting to loose it.

 

[auscyclefan94]

Dude, what is wrong with you? You are coming off like an idiot. You can't name a rider...so it is everyone eh? Except CE? I call BS on that line of thought. If CE had won he most certainly would be doped too eh? You are really starting to loose it.

I am not saying ALL are on the juice but I think it is an absurd to say such things that others are saying about people doping and it being a clean tour. Are you saying that because there were no positive tests?

Maybe you should read this thread and have a look at the poll results and which posters voted for what!
Do all top riders dope?

People who voted "yes"
Yes
2beacoup, 53 x 11, 595RED, alberto.legstrong, Andrichuk, Animal, arvens, auto de fé, battery89, bbsmyle, Big GMaC, BikeCentric, blackcat, BroDeal, broken chain, Bronstein, Carols, Cerberus, Cobblestones, Colm.Murphy, cyclelicious, CycloErgoSum, DJ Sprtsch, DonTickles, DrNoTime, Escarabajo, Ex-trackie, fatandfast, Ferminal, forumlurker, fruit bars with eyes, Full ***, Galic Ho, Gee333, guruhits, hfer07, hornet, Hugh Januss, icefire, IntheMidwest, issoisso, Jan the Man, john_d, Jukebox, Krap Police, L29205, Magnific0, Martinello, mikkemus23, MrContador, Neworld, Nick777, oldschoolnik, pedaller, poupou, progressor, R.0.t.O, ratatata, red_explosions, sagard, scribe, sometriguy, spanky wanderlust, The fridge in the blue trees, this_is_edie, Thoughtforfood, titan_90, tockit, tubularglue, usedtobefast, VeloFidelis, velotn, wattage, Willy_Voet, Yo Momma

I don't mean to single you out Galic, but I am just amking a point about your statement.

 

[outrage9]

When people read all of the personal attacks on this board, I am shocked that new posters would want to say anything at all. Why make a comment if you are going to suffer a personal attack. If you disagree with a person's point of view, disagree with what they have to say, but don't just attack a person for saying that.

Amen! Go back and read the last 20 posts by some of these "Senior Members," that joined a whole 8 months ago, and most are just attacks and name calling. Pretty easy to get 1,000 posts when you attack every new post repeatedly. Can any of you add any value to the forum, contribute any useful content, maybe educate someone that is a recent fan and wants to learn more?

 

[TRDean]

Amen! Go back and read the last 20 posts by some of these "Senior Members," that joined a whole 8 months ago, and most are just attacks and name calling. Pretty easy to get 1,000 posts when you attack every new post repeatedly. Can any of you add any value to the forum, contribute any useful content, maybe educate someone that is a recent fan and wants to learn more?

I disagree with what you have to say...but am glad you are posting here. Cumbaya...

 

[Marva32]

Curious--do you figure this comment makes you seem more or less intelligent? Please respond. Thanks in advance.

Has nothing to do with seeming more or less intelligent, just a statement of the basis of my opinion.

 

[Marva32]

Lance rarely raced in the USofA. You need to brush up on judicial boundaries and international laws and sporting authoritative bodies.

The old fella can thank his lucky stars the French never had a reported positive test. He'd have been in the slammer for a few nights at a minimum.

There are times I forget that this is an international forum

 

[Belokki]

Greg attacks anyone who is a threat to his "awesomeness", inculding Contador(Verbier climb)...

the dude is a narcistic wako and a hater

 

[saganftw]

these lemond celebrating threads are becoming as much annoying as LA...i hate them with passion

 

[TRDean]

Greg attacks anyone who is a threat to his "awesomeness", inculding Contador(Verbier climb)...

the dude is a narcistic wako and a hater

Does every post you make have the word "hater" in it? Maybe you should develop a bigger vocabulary and come back at a later time. Funny, narcissistic wako sounds a lot like LA...

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Greg attacks anyone who is a threat to his "awesomeness", inculding Contador(Verbier climb)...

the dude is a narcistic wako and a hater

learn to spell your favorite riders name...

 

[Belokki]

Does every post you make have the word "hater" in it? Maybe you should develop a bigger vocabulary and come back at a later time. Funny, narcissistic wako sounds a lot like LA...

when do you hear him bashing another champ, or a rider?

 

[Benotti69]

when do you hear him bashing another champ, or a rider?

ask Filipo Simoni, ask Christophe Bassons, ask Landis when LA and JB poured Landis's rest day blood bag down the sink in 2004 because he was joining Phonak for 2005, ask all the ex USPS riders that left and then tested positive, ask Paul Kimmage, ask former masseuse Emma O'Reilly whom he claimed was doing 'extras' for the team in a total character assasination because she told the truth to David Walsh.

LeMond has always been anti doping. When you have a 7 time TdF champion who only won the 7 TdFs because of his systematic doping well why talk about others. When LeMond asked Armstrong about it, Armstrong accused LeMond of doping and that is where this started and since then Armstrong has tried to pin dirt on LeMond to distract from his own connections to doping, Ferrari, Corticoid positive, EPO use tested positive 6 retroacitve tests for 99 TdF etc........

Give it up Fanboy.

 

[Belokki]

ask Filipo Simoni, ask Christophe Bassons, ask Landis when LA and JB poured Landis's rest day blood bag down the sink in 2004 because he was joining Phonak for 2005, ask all the ex USPS riders that left and then tested positive, ask Paul Kimmage, ask former masseuse Emma O'Reilly whom he claimed was doing 'extras' for the team in a total character assasination because she told the truth to David Walsh.

LeMond has always been anti doping. When you have a 7 time TdF champion who only won the 7 TdFs because of his systematic doping well why talk about others. When LeMond asked Armstrong about it, Armstrong accused LeMond of doping and that is where this started and since then Armstrong has tried to pin dirt on LeMond to distract from his own connections to doping, Ferrari, Corticoid positive, EPO use tested positive 6 retroacitve tests for 99 TdF etc........

Give it up Fanboy.

he had to react...

he does not attack anyone, unless attacked first...and then he will destroy you... ask Greg, Simoni or anyone else...

 

[Benotti69]

he had to react...

he does not attack anyone, unless attacked first...and then he will destroy you... ask Greg, Simoni or anyone else...

i dont see LeMond as destroyed in fact his star is on the rise or maybe you cant read the articles that have been appearing lately about LA and after Novitsky is finished the only ones to be destroyed with be Armstrong and his associates and supporters including fanboys like yourself.

Simoni still races for a professional team. Emma O'Reilly is a successful masseuse, Paul Kimmage is an award winning journalist, Christophe bassons works in sports education teaching children against taking the path that LA took and Floyd landis has made peace with himself and in case you don't know what that means, go search Stephen Swart to understand.

LA reacts to the truth seekers those who want to know how it is possible that someone who before cancer cant time-trial to save their life and after cancer is the best in the world, well EPO is the answer. The truth seekers will damage his myth/legend and ego, why would he not attack them, a standard reaction from cheats, fraudster's and liars. the other reactions is to ignore it if its not true.

 

[Belokki]

i dont see LeMond as destroyed in fact his star is on the rise or maybe you cant read the articles that have been appearing lately about LA and after Novitsky is finished the only ones to be destroyed with be Armstrong and his associates and supporters including fanboys like yourself.

Simoni still races for a professional team. Emma O'Reilly is a successful masseuse, Paul Kimmage is an award winning journalist, Christophe bassons works in sports education teaching children against taking the path that LA took and Floyd landis has made peace with himself and in case you don't know what that means, go search Stephen Swart to understand.

LA reacts to the truth seekers those who want to know how it is possible that someone who before cancer cant time-trial to save their life and after cancer is the best in the world, well EPO is the answer. The truth seekers will damage his myth/legend and ego, why would he not attack them, a standard reaction from cheats, fraudster's and liars. the other reactions is to ignore it if its not true.

Several weeks after his testimony against Lance, Greg LeMond and his wife Kathy gave an extensive interview to the Sunday Times. He provided additional details on the circumstances of his 2001 apology to Armstrong, stating that Trek, the longtime manufacturer and distributor of LeMond Racing Cycles, had threatened to end the relationship at the behest of Armstrong. He described the two years that followed the forced apology as the worst in his life, marked by self-destructive behavior that ultimately led him to disclose his sexual abuse to his wife and seek help.

Greg got pwned

 

[on3m@n@rmy]

Personally I think both Greg and Lance might have a little bit of an axe to grind and/or a lot to hide. We'll see... it will be an interesting battle, and hopefully the truth comes out.