Guess Who - Game

[DJ Sprtsch]

Only rode for French teams?
Finished Paris -Roubaix at some point?
Had a teammate once who rode for Festina?

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Male? Yes
Active? No
Vertical lines in flag? Yes
Does this person reside in Spain? No
From a country that has more than two official languages? No
Horizontal lines in flag? No
Active after 2000? Yes
Active before 2000? No
European? Yes
Does he reside underground? Unless he is in his basement at the time of posting, no
Active after 2018? No
Rode in more than one of the Grand Tours? Yes
Last UCI team French? Yes
Has he ever been fired by a team/had his contract terminated? No
Does he work in pro cycling today? No
Was his last UCI team a World Team? Yes
Ever won a GT stage? No
Only rode for French teams? Yes
Finished Paris -Roubaix at some point? Yes
Had a teammate once who rode for Festina? Yes

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

Best year (by PCS points) before 2012?
Active before 2005?
Ever rode for Ag2R?

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Male? Yes
Active? No
Vertical lines in flag? Yes
Does this person reside in Spain? No
From a country that has more than two official languages? No
Horizontal lines in flag? No
Active after 2000? Yes
Active before 2000? No
European? Yes
Does he reside underground? Unless he is in his basement at the time of posting, no
Active after 2018? No
Rode in more than one of the Grand Tours? Yes
Last UCI team French? Yes
Has he ever been fired by a team/had his contract terminated? No
Does he work in pro cycling today? No
Was his last UCI team a World Team? Yes
Ever won a GT stage? No
Only rode for French teams? Yes
Finished Paris -Roubaix at some point? Yes
Had a teammate once who rode for Festina? Yes
Best year (by PCS points) before 2012? Yes
Active before 2005? Yes
Ever rode for Ag2R? No

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

Ever rode for Cofidis?
Active after 2012?
Rode in at least 3 of the monuments?

 

[RedheadDane]

Rode his entire pro career on the same team?

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Male? Yes
Active? No
Vertical lines in flag? Yes
Does this person reside in Spain? No
From a country that has more than two official languages? No
Horizontal lines in flag? No
Active after 2000? Yes
Active before 2000? No
European? Yes
Does he reside underground? Unless he is in his basement at the time of posting, no
Active after 2018? No
Rode in more than one of the Grand Tours? Yes
Last UCI team French? Yes
Has he ever been fired by a team/had his contract terminated? No
Does he work in pro cycling today? No
Was his last UCI team a World Team? Yes
Ever won a GT stage? No
Only rode for French teams? Yes
Finished Paris -Roubaix at some point? Yes
Had a teammate once who rode for Festina? Yes
Best year (by PCS points) before 2012? Yes
Active before 2005? Yes
Ever rode for Ag2R? No
Ever rode for Cofidis? Yes
Active after 2012? No
Rode in at least 3 of the monuments? Yes
Rode his entire pro career on the same team? Yes

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Did his father have a more successful career than him?

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

Did his father have a more successful career than him?

Almost exactly the question I was drafting when a "There are more recent posts" note came up

 

[RedheadDane]

Was 2009 his last year as a pro?

 

[AmRacer]

David Moncoutié

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

David Moncoutié

Moncoutie rode 1997-99, and was a one team man.


Meanwhile, I reckon three of us have the same answer, but two of us are too polite to snatch it from Samu, who obviously got there first. .
Accented letter in his forename?
Double-Barrelled surname?
Finished 43rd in the second stage of the 2005 Circuit Franco-Belge?

 

[RedheadDane]

Moncoutie rode 1997-99, and was a one team man.

So is the guy we're looking for.
I have no clue who it is.

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

So is the guy we're looking for.
I have no clue who it is.

Oops, sorry. I misremembered that answer, which means my process was fundamentally flawed and my conclusion (a rider who did retire in 2009, which is why I thought you had the same conclusion). So either Samu has a different rider in mind, who had a more famous father, or I was lucky in not noticing that my guy's first named team in PCS was not really a pro team. Two wrongs might have made me right.

But Cofidis had slipped down to PCT level by the time Moncoutie retired, so I'm still sure it can't be him.

 

[RedheadDane]

Oops, sorry. I misremembered that answer, which means my process was fundamentally flawed and my conclusion (a rider who did retire in 2009, which is why I thought you had the same conclusion). So either Samu has a different rider in mind, who had a more famous father, or I was lucky in not noticing that my guy's first named team in PCS was not really a pro team. Two wrongs might have made me right.

Naah, I just went back to the last time - before 2012 - Cofidis was a WT team.

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

Is he just a Pau boy?
From a Pau family?

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Oops, sorry. I misremembered that answer, which means my process was fundamentally flawed and my conclusion (a rider who did retire in 2009, which is why I thought you had the same conclusion). So either Samu has a different rider in mind, who had a more famous father, or I was lucky in not noticing that my guy's first named team in PCS was not really a pro team. Two wrongs might have made me right.

But Cofidis had slipped down to PCT level by the time Moncoutie retired, so I'm still sure it can't be him.

I assume we have the same rider in mind, but while it seems he did ride for a team before joining Cofidis, I still think it's fair to claim he wasn't pro at the time.

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

Go on then, you got there first.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Hervé Duclos-Lassalle?

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Male? Yes
Active? No
Vertical lines in flag? Yes
Does this person reside in Spain? No
From a country that has more than two official languages? No
Horizontal lines in flag? No
Active after 2000? Yes
Active before 2000? No
European? Yes
Does he reside underground? Unless he is in his basement at the time of posting, no
Active after 2018? No
Rode in more than one of the Grand Tours? Yes
Last UCI team French? Yes
Has he ever been fired by a team/had his contract terminated? No
Does he work in pro cycling today? No
Was his last UCI team a World Team? Yes
Ever won a GT stage? No
Only rode for French teams? Yes
Finished Paris -Roubaix at some point? Yes
Had a teammate once who rode for Festina? Yes
Best year (by PCS points) before 2012? Yes
Active before 2005? Yes
Ever rode for Ag2R? No
Ever rode for Cofidis? Yes
Active after 2012? No
Rode in at least 3 of the monuments? Yes
Rode his entire pro career on the same team? Yes
Did his father have a more successful career than him? Yes
Was 2009 his last year as a pro? Yes
David Moncoutié? No
Accented letter in his forename? Yes
Double-Barrelled surname? Yes
Finished 43rd in the second stage of the 2005 Circuit Franco-Belge? Yes
Is he just a Pau boy? Yes
From a Pau family? Yes (although, according to the most recent article about him I could find, he's in charge at a Bordeaux-based junior team, so perhaps not living there anymore)
Hervé Duclos-Lassalle? Yes

A bit of an unfortunate rider - not only was he always in his father's shadow, but he's also one of very few riders to have started the Tour without ever completing a stage, having crashed out on the opening stage in 2008 on his only participation. At least he got to experience winning a pro race.

Oh, and the team he rode for pre-Cofidis was an espoir team, as it says in the name, and the TT3 level was the predecessor of the conti level, so doesn't count as part of a pro career for two reasons, IMO.

 

[RedheadDane]

Male?
Active?

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

Oh, and the team he rode for pre-Cofidis was an espoir team, as it says in the name, and the TT3 level was the predecessor of the conti level, so doesn't count as part of a pro career for two reasons, IMO.

As I said, in this case two wrongs did make me right. I'll try to concentrate better next time.

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

European?
All edges in flag straight?
Born in an even numbered year?

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Male? No
Active? Yes
European? Yes
All edges in flag straight? Yes
Born in an even numbered year? Yes

 

[RedheadDane]

(Is there a flag with curved edges?)

Horizontal lines in flag?
Vertical lines in flag?