Teams & Riders He's coming home!!!! Alejandro Valverde comeback thread.

[BillytheKid]

Voted Storm. I can apply the adjectives later.

 

[Aguirre]

no milano san remo

...volta a catalunya and pais vasco, then AGR, and ardennes

then maybe suisse, tour, vuelta and worlds

 

[l.Harm]

Thank you!

 

[Red Rick]

What's the damage? Does this crash hurt the preperation for the classics?

 

[ILovecycling]

What's the damage? Does this crash hurt the preperation for the classics?

Its looking fine

"They both don't have any serious injuries, but the blow was hard and Alejandro was feeling a bit dizzy," said Hoyos. "He has several bruises, especially on his left side, on the hip and the knee and a hard hit on his elbow." It was confirmed that neither rider sustained any broken bones in the crash.

 

[The Hitch]

Maddone is Valverde unlucky or what since his comeback.
2012 Tour, Crash(es?)
2012 Vuelta, opponents ride away during a tiny crash. Ok, probably would have finished 2nd-3rd anyway but still.
2013 Tour, absolutely ****ed on a standard puncture.
2013 Vuelta, puncture during tt, loses 20 seconds.

 

[Aguirre]

I said el bala wins by few seconds

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Maddone is Valverde unlucky or what since his comeback.
2012 Tour, Crash(es?)
2012 Vuelta, opponents ride away during a tiny crash. Ok, probably would have finished 2nd-3rd anyway but still.
2013 Tour, absolutely ****ed on a standard puncture.
2013 Vuelta, puncture during tt, loses 20 seconds.

Karma is a *****. I don't feel sorry at all.

 

[Netserk]

Maddone is Valverde unlucky or what since his comeback.
2012 Tour, Crash(es?)
2012 Vuelta, opponents ride away during a tiny crash. Ok, probably would have finished 2nd-3rd anyway but still.
2013 Tour, absolutely ****ed on a standard puncture.
2013 Vuelta, puncture during tt, loses 20 seconds.

He wasn't exactly lucky in GTs before his ban.

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

I would feel sorry for him, if it wasn't for the fact that he is kinda boring to watch

 

[The Hitch]

Karma is a *****. I don't feel sorry at all.

What's the reason you don't like him?

 

[IndianCyclist]

His comeback is simply "the best of the rest of the front group but not the winner"

 

[Angliru]

Maddone is Valverde unlucky or what since his comeback.
2012 Tour, Crash(es?)
2012 Vuelta, opponents ride away during a tiny crash. Ok, probably would have finished 2nd-3rd anyway but still.
2013 Tour, absolutely ****ed on a standard puncture.
2013 Vuelta, puncture during tt, loses 20 seconds.

He wasn't exactly living a charmed cycling life prior to his suspension with his consecutive years leaving the Tour prematurely due to injuries.

 

[Pricey_sky]

What's the reason you don't like him?

Possible clinic.

I didn't mind him even after his comeback and actually felt a little bad for him after what happened at the Tour in the crosswinds and his puncture. However he has been horrendous to watch this Vuelta, what he did the other day made me quite angry. Wheelsucking is fair enough if that's your limit (Wiggins did it to his strength and won a GT) however to then pounce on the line and gain bonus seconds over guys who have dug deep at his expense is just wrong and I don't like that. Each to their own I suppose though.

 

[karlboss]

Possible clinic.

I didn't mind him even after his comeback and actually felt a little bad for him after what happened at the Tour in the crosswinds and his puncture. However he has been horrendous to watch this Vuelta, what he did the other day made me quite angry. Wheelsucking is fair enough if that's your limit (Wiggins did it to his strength and won a GT) however to then pounce on the line and gain bonus seconds over guys who have dug deep at his expense is just wrong and I don't like that. Each to their own I suppose though.

You know this is Valverde MO right?

Other's mightn't like Valverde for clinic reasons, I know some Evans fans don't like him for the 2009 Dauphine, 2010 LBL. A number of guys have had misfortunes and Valverde has done nothing to slow the race sometimes even appearing to drop the hammer, but that one seems to be going around.

I don't dislike him, racing is racing do what you have to do to win, but he's not aone of my favourites.

 

[Archibald]

Karma is a *****. I don't feel sorry at all.

I'll second that.

Other's mightn't like Valverde for clinic reasons, ...

A number of guys have had misfortunes and Valverde has done nothing to slow the race sometimes even appearing to drop the hammer, but that one seems to be going around.

both of karlboss' reasons above. Completely unrepentent f**k.
And the comes the whinging when he's done the same himself - prize hypocrite

 

[karlboss]

I'll second that.



both of karlboss' reasons above. Completely unrepentent f**k.
And the comes the whinging when he's done the same himself - prize hypocrite

Just quickly, When should you wait and when shouldn't you? A couple of my own thoughts. Wiggins for Cadel with the tacks on the road, good waiting, Hamilton/Ullrich for Armstrong with the plastic bag, good waiting. Contador and Froome falling at the Tour, I'd have waited for Froome not for Contador. If your tactic is to take risks and you fall bad luck, if you are taken out by someone it'd be nice if folks waited. Valverde's puncture, teams going for the stage shouldn't wait and can contribute to the pace, GC teams can sit in, but not work. Do folk agree or disagree? Any situations that are contentios?

 

[The Hitch]

Possible clinic.

Err no.

10 c

 

[The Hitch]

Just quickly, When should you wait and when shouldn't you? A couple of my own thoughts. Wiggins for Cadel with the tacks on the road, good waiting, Hamilton/Ullrich for Armstrong with the plastic bag, good waiting. Contador and Froome falling at the Tour, I'd have waited for Froome not for Contador. If your tactic is to take risks and you fall bad luck, if you are taken out by someone it'd be nice if folks waited. Valverde's puncture, teams going for the stage shouldn't wait and can contribute to the pace, GC teams can sit in, but not work. Do folk agree or disagree? Any situations that are contentios?

Wiggins for cadel, Pr move not gc waiting. When you are minutes ahead of the opponent, clearly miles better than them in every department and you are tting like indurain with a 50k tf stage to go, then waiting is meaningless really.

Anyway what I most don't like is a rider telling everyone else to wait. E.g. cancellara 2010, Contador later in that race, Wiggins 2012. If you want to wait do it yourself. Other people have their own races to ride.

 

[Netserk]

Never wait. Always race. _O_

 

[Red Rick]

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/valverde-accepts-defeat-at-lombardia

He might ride the Giro next year. Nothing in cycling (or life) is certain anymore

 

[The Hitch]

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/valverde-accepts-defeat-at-lombardia

He might ride the Giro next year. Nothing in cycling (or life) is certain anymore

To stop Rodriguez from winning, duh

 

[Rollthedice]

If Quintana rides for TdF it's obvious Valverde can try a Giro.

 

[trevim]

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/valverde-accepts-defeat-at-lombardia

He might ride the Giro next year. Nothing in cycling (or life) is certain anymore

I was shocked too! What's next, Andy Schleck riding races too?!
Seriously though, there's no point in having Valverde on the TdF team as a helper. Movistar has plenty of guys that can do a better job.

 

[Parrulo]

2nd in amstell
3rd in liege
2nd in san sebastian
3rd in the worlds
2nd in lombardy

This pretty much sums up his classics season: