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And uphill sprint and a reduced sprint? Not any different from Gerro.StryderHells said:
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Surely, if it's the second stage - and in this case also the last - it can't be a prologue. Isn't prologue the term for when the opening stage of a race is a short (less than 7 Ks?) ITT?
Dunno, would the term for this be an epilogue? If we're sticking to the literary terms...
yaco said:RedheadDane said:
I am fully aware of stage 1 of the Women's Herald Sun Tour - Actually stage one showed you don't have bonus seconds in a two stage race when the second stage is a 1.6km prologue.
Surely, if it's the second stage - and in this case also the last - it can't be a prologue. Isn't prologue the term for when the opening stage of a race is a short (less than 7 Ks?) ITT?
Dunno, would the term for this be an epilogue? If we're sticking to the literary terms...
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And what about the stages he didn't win? Just sitting in the bunch sucking wheels? Funny cause I remember him attacking any chance he could to put Kittel under pressure.
WheelofGear said:
And what about the stages he didn't win? Just sitting in the bunch sucking wheels? Funny cause I remember him attacking any chance he could to put Kittel under pressure.
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That's 95% of the riders in the peloton who know they can't win unless the save energy. What Gerrans did was nothing new, he was just better at it than most people. Teams pay riders to win and Gerrans over achieved as far as that goes. Gerrans went from a breakaway rider when he first started and then realized compared to others on the right course he could also sprint and climb with the better classics riders. He just rode to his strength. Sprint wins are never popular unless it's Sagan winning or a bunch sprinter on a flat stage that climbers never had a hope in anyway. Evans was also called a wheelsucker by many fans just because he couldn't climb like Contador and needed to hold something in reserve to have any chance of winning a stage race. Tactics and a good TT plus his ability to minimize his losses in the mountains was just Evan's style, once again nothing new for a grand tour rider. If he had tried to ride like a pure climber he would have been done before the third week started. What some people saw as Evans sandbagging was more or less Evans trying to stay in contention against better climbers. The only way to beat natural talents like Contador and Sagan is to ride smarter which is why Kwia has a few wins against Sagan now. Sagan fans might not like it but the smartest rider won not necessarily the strongest.
WheelofGear said:
That's 95% of the riders in the peloton who know they can't win unless the save energy. What Gerrans did was nothing new, he was just better at it than most people. Teams pay riders to win and Gerrans over achieved as far as that goes. Gerrans went from a breakaway rider when he first started and then realized compared to others on the right course he could also sprint and climb with the better classics riders. He just rode to his strength. Sprint wins are never popular unless it's Sagan winning or a bunch sprinter on a flat stage that climbers never had a hope in anyway. Evans was also called a wheelsucker by many fans just because he couldn't climb like Contador and needed to hold something in reserve to have any chance of winning a stage race. Tactics and a good TT plus his ability to minimize his losses in the mountains was just Evan's style, once again nothing new for a grand tour rider. If he had tried to ride like a pure climber he would have been done before the third week started. What some people saw as Evans sandbagging was more or less Evans trying to stay in contention against better climbers. The only way to beat natural talents like Contador and Sagan is to ride smarter which is why Kwia has a few wins against Sagan now. Sagan fans might not like it but the smartest rider won not necessarily the strongest.
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Good call by you Swuzzlebubble. Chapman was also 15th in the Cadel Evans RR so she has good form. Will be interesting to see what the future holds for Chapman. And AVV wins the prologue today.
Will stick my neck out and predict Lucy Kennedy will end up a better rider than Amanda Spratt.
Will stick my neck out and predict Lucy Kennedy will end up a better rider than Amanda Spratt.
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Obviously he has been primarily a track rider, and an exceptionally successful one, but first pro road win at age 32 for Ed Clancy.
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Very good cross wind action in today's Herald stage. Under 20 riders in the lead group to finish
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Scarponi said:
It was a lovely day out but was thinking when getting smashed around by the wind commuting that it would be a hectic day in the Sun Tour. Looking at the results the only GC guys in with a shot now would be Howson, Chaves, Harper, Guerreiro and possibly Bayly.
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Well deserved win for Lasse Norman Hansen. He has clearly started the season in excellent early form. He’s had three race days so far: he was the strongest in the break in the Cadel race, then narrowly missed out on winning the Herald Sun prologue, then won the next stage.
A welcome boost for Aquablue too, given that they seem to be struggling for race invites this year despite last years good results.
A welcome boost for Aquablue too, given that they seem to be struggling for race invites this year despite last years good results.
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It was a great win. Apparently Norman himself caused the selection that cut the leading group to 9 riders after crosswinds had split the peloton earlier.
Hopefully he can carry his shape through to the spring where I believe he has lots of unfulfilled potential.
Zinoviev Letter said:
It was a great win. Apparently Norman himself caused the selection that cut the leading group to 9 riders after crosswinds had split the peloton earlier.
Hopefully he can carry his shape through to the spring where I believe he has lots of unfulfilled potential.
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Geraint Too Fast said:
Very true! He's been developing nicely racing in Asia, could do very well on Lake Mountain.
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http://www.cyclingnews.com/races/jayco-herald-sun-tour-2018/stage-2/results/
The Danes are on fire!
I'd actually been sorta joking with myself; "Haha... could be rather funny if (M) Pedersen takes the second stage. Never gonna happen though..."
The Danes are on fire!
I'd actually been sorta joking with myself; "Haha... could be rather funny if (M) Pedersen takes the second stage. Never gonna happen though..."
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Is Lasse-Norman related to Louise Lasse-Norman in the women's SunTour?RedheadDane said:http://www.cyclingnews.com/races/jayco-herald-sun-tour-2018/stage-2/results/
The Danes are on fire!
I'd actually been sorta joking with myself; "Haha... could be rather funny if (M) Pedersen takes the second stage. Never gonna happen though..."
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They're brother and sister.
(You mean Louise Norman Hansen, not Louise Lasse-Norman. Lasse is, well, Lasse's first name )
swuzzlebubble said:Is Lasse-Norman related to Louise Lasse-Norman in the women's SunTour?RedheadDane said:http://www.cyclingnews.com/races/jayco-herald-sun-tour-2018/stage-2/results/
The Danes are on fire!
I'd actually been sorta joking with myself; "Haha... could be rather funny if (M) Pedersen takes the second stage. Never gonna happen though..."
They're brother and sister.
(You mean Louise Norman Hansen, not Louise Lasse-Norman. Lasse is, well, Lasse's first name
)
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Lasse Norman? Well... he won gold in omnium at the 2012 London Olympics (bronze in Rio), so I'd say he does.
The Hegelian said:
Lasse Norman? Well... he won gold in omnium at the 2012 London Olympics (bronze in Rio), so I'd say he does.
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