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How dodgy is San Millán?

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In the "JV talks, sort of" thread, we've been discussing the degree of dodgyness of Garmin's former (2010) doctor Inigo San Millán, who joined Garmin in January 2010, replacing Allen Lim, but left Garmin presumably towards the end of the same year.

Fearless Greg Lemond said:
Update on our friend Inigo San Millan:
http://nyvelocity.com/content/coachingfitness/2005/coaching-profile-iñigo-san-millán

So, Vitalicio, ONCE, Vini Caldirola, Saunier Duval, Astana, Garmin?
Is that the sequence?

Well JV, can you find a dodgier doc than that? Why not just hire Pepe Marti.
(...)

The discussion was then briefly taken to the Kimmage-interview thread, where it developed as follows:

Benotti69 said:
Garmin are allegedly involved with a doctor called Dr San Millan who has a dodgy CV.

Dr. Maserati said:
Not this again.
There is no allegedly, Garmin are indeed involved with San Millan, however there is nothing dodgy at all about the guy.

So, to arbitrate and settle the matter once and for all, the I don't know how many million dollar question is this:
Do you think San Millán is dodgy?
(and if so, how friggin dodgy?)

To help you make your decision, here's more background info on the guy:

His former teams and some of the riders he proudly worked with are listed below:
“His cycling experience includes work with 6 professional cycling teams, 1 Tour de France winner and 16 Grand Tour (Tour de France, Giro d’Italia, and Vuelta a España) podium finishers, including teams such as Vitalicio Seguros, ONCE, Saunier Duval, and Astana. He has worked with riders such as Joseba Beloki, Abraham Olano, Chris Horner, Fred Rodriguez, Jorge Jackshe, Leonardo Piepoli, David Millar, and Alexander Vinokourov.”
http://cafescicolorado.org/SanMillan.htm

In addition, he worked with e.g. Kashechskin at Astana, shortly before he got caugh, though to be fair San Millán had just left Astana when our Kazachan friend got busted.

Here's a long interview with San Millán in 2009 on doping in cycling, Bernard Kohl, blood passport, etc. (i.e. from before he joined Garmin):
http://www.fact-canada.com/discus/messages/10/2912.html?1247363778

San Millán trivializing doping in cycling:
The statistics for doping in cycling are probably the lowest in sports. They do about 10,000 tests per year and we only see only 4 or 5 cases per year. So we're talking .04-.05%.

San Millán praising UCI and blood passport:
ISM: The UCI has done cases as well. As a matter of fact, if you go to a race right now and talk to the riders, the teams in general, the whole doping scene has been decreased dramatically because of the passport. You can see the profiles, the UCI has been showing profiles of the average hematocrit, Hemoglobin, the average testosterone levels, and other hormonal, and for the most part everything's very normal right now. You wouldn't see any cases of high hematocrits any more, that's very well controlled right now.

The degree of doping has decreased so much, the UCI's doing much more than any other federation, way more advanced than other sports. The UCI conducts far more tests than any other international federation, it's the only federation in the world that applies all the battery of tests available right now. The more tests you do, the more people you're going to catch.

So, to be sure, no hard facts on this guy, no explicit (= direct) links to doping cases, yet alot of indirect links to doping cases, through the teams and riders he worked with, and, IMO, a couple of dodgy statements in that interview.

So I've made up my mind: yes this bloke is dodgy.
 
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Mods, this was supposed to become a poll.

Could you please remove it until i've fixed it?

Or could you pleaazzze help me transform it into a poll?

These are the four options:

1. he's dodgy
2. he's not dodgy
3. he's dodgier than Del Moral
4. he's as dodgy as Allen Lim
 
“His cycling experience includes work with 6 professional cycling teams, 1 Tour de France winner and 16 Grand Tour (Tour de France, Giro d’Italia, and Vuelta a España) podium finishers, including teams such as Vitalicio Seguros, ONCE, Saunier Duval, and Astana. He has worked with riders such as Joseba Beloki, Abraham Olano, Chris Horner, Fred Rodriguez, Jorge Jackshe, Leonardo Piepoli, David Millar, and Alexander Vinokourov.”

Did they forget Alberto :D Or did he not work with him :rolleyes: