How will the Global Economic Collapse Effect the world of cycling?

[Susan Westemeyer]

You don't miss much

I was, shall I say, a Teenager on a Schwinn Varsity

Ok, so maybe I was a little older than a wee tot......

Susan

 

[Robert Merivel]

Oh, Jeebus! This is why people should not listen to Alex Jones.

Alex Jones is one of, if not the, leading beacon for conspiracy nutters in the U.S. He is a kook's kook. His ranting is so hysterical that other conspiracy theorists often accuse him of being a member of a false flag operation to discredit their "movement."

He produces content that is the McDonald's of conspiracy theories. It is a wide menu of craziness that has been santized so that it will appeal to the widest possible audience. It is essentially conspiracy theory for the masses. The theories that he promotes are contradictory from year to year, week to week, and day to day. There is no internal logic because it is designed to partially buttress the pet theories of each member of his audience.

The really funny thing about Alex Jones that he is a cynical self promoter who exploits his believers for money. Unlike David Icke, a man who is likely mentally ill, who believes that the world is controlled by a global elite of alien reptiles, Alex Jones does not believe anything that he says. He is playing his audience for a buck, and that audience is too stupid to figure it out. His act is the perfect scam. If you are going to con people then why not choose the most gullible.

You like to portray yourself as one who seems to know something that we don't. Okay, BigDeal, tell us something about these fellows. Forget Icke and Jones. They are just one of the many and obviously they seem to control you on some level by the way you "react" to their names.


Marc Faber
Gerald Celente
Jim Sinclair
Peter Schiff
Jim Rogers

Don't take this personally, but you're typical of the dumbed down Americans, Left or Right, who believe exactly what they are programed to believe. It's a sad commentary on how profoundly deep Their control is over you and the masses, and how rampant the Denial is. I don't blame you for it. I know if you knew any better you'd break out of your bondage and experience real "Freedom." But that's a scary avenue to take because it means you'll have to take responsibility for thinking outside the box. No easy task in this day and age. They've got their fingers of Fear wrapped around you and I suspect that might be terrifying for you (and everyone else) It is the Fear that motivates one to deny the reality of what is taking place. Your "fear based" standard operating procedure is You Deny the message and attack the messenger. Rather than address the obvious catastrophic issues that we are so intimately surrounded with on a daily basis, it's so much easier to attack the one who turns on the Light, exposing what is Real. If you really think you are "open" then listen to all of these speakers and then let's here something intelligent and constructive come out of your brain.

When the great awakening finally manifests on the planet and denial crumbles on the rocks of Knowledge and Knowingness, you'll come around. Until then, try and contain yourself. Eat organic, non gmo food. Stay off of all prescribed drugs. Get exercise. Get out of debt. Treat others as you want to be treated. Stay away from alcohol and non-prescribed drugs. Get rest. Spend less time on the internet. Don't let Fear motivate you. Follow those simple suggestions and you'll get though it.

Now, with that being said, let's get back to topic. How the Global Financial Collapse will Effect Cycling. The moderators here are probably eager to hear the many opinions that clear and intelligent posters here have to add.

 

[Susan Westemeyer]

Robert Mervel:

If we are so dumb, why do you bother with us?

Stop insulting others, please.

Susan

 

[RDV4ROUBAIX]

Now, with that being said, let's get back to topic. How the Global Financial Collapse will Effect Cycling. The moderators here are probably eager to hear the many opinions that clear and intelligent posters here have to add.

Something that directly effects the pocket book is that dirty word "oil". As gas prices go up and up, and more people are realizing that we've been fighting over oil for a lifetime, and a lifetime to come, my job in the bike industry gets better and better. I can't even begin to tell you how many new full-time cycling commuters I've met in the last few years. And they're doing it everyday on wheels I've built for them. If you want to fund terrorism, keep driving the petrol guzzling car everyday.

 

[Robert Merivel]

Robert Mervel:

If we are so dumb, why do you bother with us?

Stop insulting others, please.

Susan

Why that's a loaded question, Susan, but I'm glad you addressed this topic. Do you really want an answer or am I just being set up?

Personally, I would prefer to stick to the topic. However, the "Dumbing down of Americans" is not some topic I came up with. It is now a main stream term that many intelligent people discuss openly and honestly. If you care to expand your horizons, here is Charlotte Iserbyt who was the Senior Policy Advisor in the Office of Educational Research and Improvement.

Charlotte Iserbyt - Deliberate Dumbing Down of the World

Enjoy!

 

[Robert Merivel]

Something that directly effects the pocket book is that dirty word "oil". As gas prices go up and up, and more people are realizing that we've been fighting over oil for a lifetime, and a lifetime to come, my job in the bike industry gets better and better. I can't even begin to tell you how many new full-time cycling commuters I've met in the last few years. And they're doing it everyday on wheels I've built for them. If you want to fund terrorism, keep driving the petrol guzzling car everyday.

I think that those of you who work in the bike industry are going to be quite "in demand" and successful in the years to come. It's a great occupation and even though the next couple of years might be a bit rocky, in terms of "product availability", at least "service" will be a sure avenue for generating income. We might see more locally and regionally produced products making availability more reliable.

 

[flicker]

Robert, I take it you live in Washington. The construction business in California is pitiful.

Hey maybe you could share some heirloom seeds with us. We need to plant our victory garden.

Also send us a couple nice laying hens and a couple of breeding goats. We could really use the help. Signed Federico the illeagal alien. Not to be confused with the Coneheads from Romulak, err France.

 

[Robert Merivel]

Robert, I take it you live in Washington. The construction business in California is pitiful.

Hey maybe you could share some heirloom seeds with us. We need to plant our victory garden.

Also send us a couple nice laying hens and a couple of breeding goats. We could really use the help. Signed Federico the illeagal alien. Not to be confused with the Coneheads from Romulak, err France.

Actually, I lived in California (off and on for many years, so and nor) and as much as I loved it down there, just too many people. Construction is on the ropes up here too, but if one has the skills, one can get the work. If you come up, I can make some suggestions, if that will help. You decision to plant a Victory Garden proves you are in the know and one step (or maybe many) ahead of most. Here is where I get my seeds:

Seeds of Change
Hume Organic Seeds
Burpee

I have some extra seeds too if you need some.

 

[Susan Westemeyer]

Why that's a loaded question, Susan, but I'm glad you addressed this topic. Do you really want an answer or am I just being set up?

You were being set up, as you are in most of the answers in this thread.

Let me put it more bluntly, and I am writing as a user and not a mod: stop insulting everyone, if you expect them to listen to you. I will not read sermons by a condescending self-proclaimed know-it-all.

Susan

 

[BroDeal]

Forget Icke and Jones. They are just one of the many and obviously they seem to control you on some level by the way you "react" to their names.

People react to the cult-like morons who listen to Alex Jones and David Icke, buy their books, and promote their laughable theories by posting to the Internet because it is immediately clear that they are not dealing with someone who is rational. Reasonable people do not believe Jones when he tells them that 9/11 was an inside job by the New World Order and is a stepping stone to FEMA setting up death camps to depopulate the country. They laugh at the idea that there are people who are actually stupid enough to spend their hard earned money on Icke's books so they can learn about the race of alien reptiles disguised as humans who control the world. They laugh even harder at the thought of Icke spending part of his life only wearing turquoise colored clothing because that color promotes positive energy.

You are judged by the people you associate with and the crackpots you listen to. Do not be surprised when people think you are a nut when you inform them that you listen to Alex Jones.

Get out of debt.

Why?? If the world will end soon then the smart thing to do would be to take on as much debts as possible. Live it up. When the financial system collapses and everyone is bartering with chickens and goats, your creditors won't be able to collect their debts anyway.

If you truly were as smart as you think you are and knew that the economic disaster was just around the corner then instead of stocking up on double-ply toilet paper, hiding your gold coins in bottles of peanut butter, and building an outhouse in your backyard, you would be figuring out how to profit from the coming collapse. Since the masses are blissfully unaware of their impending doom, there are huge investment possibilities. Instead of surviving in the wilderness like a 19th century mountain man, you could become one the dastardly wealthy and live like a king relative to the starving masses.

Borrow all the money you can, make some big bets on the collapse, and reap giant rewards. Put your money where your mouth is.

 

[flicker]

Actually, I lived in California (off and on for many years, so and nor) and as much as I loved it down there, just too many people. Construction is on the ropes up here too, but if one has the skills, one can get the work. If you come up, I can make some suggestions, if that will help. You decision to plant a Victory Garden proves you are in the know and one step (or maybe many) ahead of most. Here is where I get my seeds:

Seeds of Change
Hume Organic Seeds
Burpee

I have some extra seeds too if you need some.

Right on Bob,
Back in the day down around Silver City I visited seeds of change. Excellent company. I will PM you. Good one, home grown food is where its at.

You are indeed wise Obi-Juan.

 

[Robert Merivel]

You were being set up, as you are in most of the answers in this thread.

Let me put it more bluntly, and I am writing as a user and not a mod: stop insulting everyone, if you expect them to listen to you. I will not read sermons by a condescending self-proclaimed know-it-all.

Susan

Well, if you truly are responding as a user then might I be so bold as to suggest that you are not obligated to read my posts. And, while on that topic, before you point the finger, you might care to examine the other posters who use "questionable" language to express their opinions of others. If you start deleting, you may end up with very few posters at cycling news.

Lastly,

"I will not read sermons by a condescending self-proclaimed know-it-all."

Should I take that as an insult? I don't. I just happen to know what I'm talking about in regards to the health of the economy and that seems to bother you, personally, because it's a "sensitive" issue with most people. I don't hold it against you, Susan. The truth can create discomfort sometimes, but if you follow my suggestions that I made to another poster above, i.e. rest, eating well, taking care of the body, etc., etc., you too should get through this "special period" just fine. Just remember though, all of our life-styles will be changing rather dramatically, for better or for worse, very soon. The comfort level will depend on being open and flexible to the change.

Wow, no insults there. How am I doing?

 

[Robert Merivel]

People react to the cult-like morons who listen to Alex Jones and David Icke, buy their books, and promote their laughable theories by posting to the Internet because it is immediately clear that they are not dealing with someone who is rational. Reasonable people do not believe Jones when he tells them that 9/11 was an inside job by the New World Order and is a stepping stone to FEMA setting up death camps to depopulate the country. They laugh at the idea that there are people who are actually stupid enough to spend their hard earned money on Icke's books so they can learn about the race of alien reptiles disguised as humans who control the world. They laugh even harder at the thought of Icke spending part of his life only wearing turquoise colored clothing because that color promotes positive energy.

You are judged by the people you associate with and the crackpots you listen to. Do not be surprised when people think you are a nut when you inform them that you listen to Alex Jones.



Why?? If the world will end soon then the smart thing to do would be to take on as much debts as possible. Live it up. When the financial system collapses and everyone is bartering with chickens and goats, your creditors won't be able to collect their debts anyway.

If you truly were as smart as you think you are and knew that the economic disaster was just around the corner then instead of stocking up on double-ply toilet paper, hiding your gold coins in bottles of peanut butter, and building an outhouse in your backyard, you would be figuring out how to profit from the coming collapse. Since the masses are blissfully unaware of their impending doom, there are huge investment possibilities. Instead of surviving in the wilderness like a 19th century mountain man, you could become one the dastardly wealthy and live like a king relative to the starving masses.

Borrow all the money you can, make some big bets on the collapse, and reap giant rewards. Put your money where your mouth is.

Thank you, BroDeal.

Finally...I rest my case.

 

[Indurain]

I agree, David Icke is mentally ill but amongst his illness, does speak some truth (reptiles not being one of them).

I don't believe all Alex Jones says, but if you do the research as he suggests, it all appears legit. He backs up most of what he says with documentation.

If he is full of crap then why aren't all of these big guns he is slandering bringing him down at least legally. Some of the things he says about them would be hugely offensive and even criminal if they weren't true.

In the most part, I believe him, even though socially and personality wise, I can't stand him.

 

[BroDeal]

If he is full of crap then why aren't all of these big guns he is slandering bringing him down at least legally. Some of the things he says about them would be hugely offensive and even criminal if they weren't true.

First, in the U.S. for most cases of slander and libel you have to prove damages. It is hard to prove that the rantings of a fringe crackpot like Jones have actually caused you damage.

Second, the politically astute thing to do is to ignore the accusations. If you sue then the mainstream media will pick up the story. Most of those publications would never normally print the trash that Jones espouses, so there is no reason to give them a reason to disseminate Jones' stories.

Third, sueing someone like Jones plays into his attention seeking modus operandi. He would use the suit to claim that the "elite" were trying to silence him. He would probably also take delight in showing up at political rallies with a megaphone and drawing more attention to himself (and his ridiculous accusations against you). In short, it is not wise to give a nut with a mike a reason to hold a grudge.

 

[Oncearunner8]

Primary transportation, finally?

As the whole fraudulent economic system “finally” comes unraveled and collapses before our very own eyes this year, e.g., Greece, followed by Spain, followed by Portugal, followed by Italy, throw in the UK somewhere in there, all of Europe, China, (soverign defaults around the world) etc., etc., etc., followed up by that country where the “Titans of Industry” (as the corrupt president of that country called the wall street criminal syndicate "super bookies", just the other day), with their insatiable appetite for stealing and hoarding every last penny from the pockets of the many while seemingly enjoying their collateral damage, what’s going to happen to our cycling world?

It’s become absolutely clear, for anybody with a smidgen of awareness, that our life-styles are in the process of transitioning from an era of “plenty” to one of “austerity,” as our picture postcard worlds are being methodically and dramatically dismantled in a very harsh manner (while the contagious dis-ease of DENIAL continues to run rampant). One who is not overshadowed by the multitude of mental disorders, e.g., the obsessive preoccupation with eating and entertainment while the collection agent is banging on the door, can not help but wonder “ What will happen to the many facets of cycling? Will my local bike shop tank or prosper while petrol hits record highs? How will I be able to afford those DT Swiss XRC 100 World Champion Race forks when I can’t even pay my rent? How can I milk more out of that credit card? How am I going to watch the Grand tours since my DirecTV hookup has been cut off? Will there even be a Grand Tour? What about local and regional racing? Will I be able to ride my bike to work while pockets of rioting are taking place through out my neighborhood? Will it be safe to even ride a bike when the (obese) masses are going through hyper withdrawals as they no longer have access to: “meds,” TV, fast-food, toys, internet, i-phones, texting, junk food, non-prescribed drugs, alcohol, and on and on and on. Lot’s of potential for bicycle carnage on the roads.

This “transition” period has the potential to become pretty bleak (and we're only talking about the global economy, not the catastrophic environment issues we face), and, in general, I’m an optimistic and fortunate kind’a guy. No debt. House paid for. Some pretty nice bikes. Off the Grid. Organic gardens. Some gold and silver, oops, digressing. Regardless, this is one massive mess that can’t be “bailed out.” Mathmatically impossible. IT’s the BIG ONE. Karma. Our whole relationship with cycling will be changing on every level. Even “Cycling News” won’t be immune.

Time to stock up on a case of tubes and tires?

I suggest you buy much duct tape and canned goods. Then just wait it out! LMAO

 

[buckwheat]

I've been listening to this guy Zack de la Rocha a lot.

One of his interesting quotes is:

"Fcuk you I won't do what you told me,

Motherfcuker!"

I think he's on to something.

 

[Robert Merivel]

Meltdown?

Or

Meltup?

 

[shawnrohrbach]

Meltdown?

Or

Meltup?

Reading the ramblings of anti NWO conspiracy theorists makes me hungry for a melted cheese sandwich. James, serve it in the bunker after my bike ride, would you please? By the way, what time is my appointment with my therapist?

 

[shawnrohrbach]

James, have you seen the tin foil hat I wear underneath my helmet?

 

[BroDeal]

Reading the ramblings of anti NWO conspiracy theorists makes me hungry for a melted cheese sandwich. James, serve it in the bunker after my bike ride, would you please? By the way, what time is my appointment with my therapist?

Sorry, cheese is out. Word on the street is that the nation's cheese stocks have been contaminated with mind control chemicals developed by the CIA and Da Joos. It's all part of the NWO master plan to turn the lower classes into mindless work droids.

 

[shawnrohrbach]

Sorry, cheese is out. Word on the street is that the nation's cheese stocks have been contaminated with mind control chemicals developed by the CIA and Da Joos. It's all part of the NWO master plan to turn the lower classes into mindless work droids.

I am protected by my tin foil hat from all enemies foreign and domestic and I foresaw this whole collapse coming in 1981 when I worked for a government food program and ai stock piled fifty tons of government issued cheese bricks and they are still in a secure corner of my bunker.

 

[BroDeal]

I am protected by my tin foil hat from all enemies foreign and domestic and I foresaw this whole collapse coming in 1981 when I worked for a government food program and ai stock piled fifty tons of government issued cheese bricks and they are still in a secure corner of my bunker.

In a world of contaminated cheese, the man with clean cheese blocks is king.

 

[Anonymous]

In a world of contaminated cheese, the man with clean cheese blocks is king.

Yea, king of the "Never take a Sh!t Again Kingdom."

 

[shawnrohrbach]

Yea, king of the "Never take a Sh!t Again Kingdom."

Thank you for helping name the country I will start when I come out of the bunker and face the hell of starving people and the chaos of streets with no lights being over run by hipsters on fixies running through intersections. I will shoot on sight anyone not wearing a tin foil hat and there will be free cheese for the people I like and I will revive the world economy one piece of mold at a time.