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We all want a clean sport I hope, but what I dislike the most of super Obvious and Team wide doping programs and that really ****s up the fun of watching the tour...
So I can understand the OP abit, this year has the potential to kill some of my love for the tour... it reminds me to much of the USP era and that was no fun to watch..
But lets give it a chance, who knows maybe Wiggins can't keep up in the next two stages or something dramatic will happen.
So I can understand the OP abit, this year has the potential to kill some of my love for the tour... it reminds me to much of the USP era and that was no fun to watch..
But lets give it a chance, who knows maybe Wiggins can't keep up in the next two stages or something dramatic will happen.
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Hugh Januss said:
We've seen before teams getting sick or subject to police raids. They were never the dominant team
Sorry
Libertine Seguros said:
This most poignant and crucial life changing, catalystic moment could have occurred after any number of moments from cycling's past (choose from any number, really.. Cobo in the vuelta etc) But it happens to come after 'Wigans' has a) Shoved the likes of BroDeals words down his throat during an interview and b) Proved that he is the top dog right now, barring a miracle.
I can see why BroDeal wouldn't want to watch the Tour anymore when someone he really doesn't want to win, from a team he doesn't like is on course to make him look stupid. Remember all those donkey pictures etc? Hilarious!
Familiar with the phrase 'Throwing his toys out of the pram'?
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hrotha said:
I recall PDM 1991. They had Breukink, who was 3rd in 1990, but noone expected LeMond to lose. I stopped watching in 1993 after the boredom of Indurain, so I missed ONCE at the 1996 Vuelta. Festina might have been expected dominant in 1998 but it looked like it was Ulrich to lose too.
There's very, very little hope.
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gingerwallaceafro said:
No worries. Lance ***** slapped us around in words and actions for years, and we hung in there.
Libertine Seguros said:
I think it is for me. I'm at the point where a few of my older cycling friends are. They're no longer really following pro cycling closely, they're immersed in their own cycling activities.
Although, the French gendarmes could make the sun come out with a Festina style bit of news.
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gingerwallaceafro said:
It's funny how people interpret things differently I'd say his petulant outburst was a win for the haters certainly didn't do him any favours imo. Also worth remembering that before he turned into superman he was an outspoken cynic .. how things change
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Wiggins on Moreni in 2007:
We're w*nkers for not waiting for a positive test to ask questions.
That was the year that the peloton waited at the line to protest drug cheats, but not Bradley the anti-doping crusader, he rode on.
We're w*nkers for not waiting for a positive test to ask questions.
That was the year that the peloton waited at the line to protest drug cheats, but not Bradley the anti-doping crusader, he rode on.
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gingerwallaceafro said:
Oh, you're lapping it up all right. That's not a milk mustache you're sporting either.
Brad feels sorry for us because we don't believe in miracles.
Oh, wait, that was the other guy.
Brad is mad at us because we don't believe in miracles.
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pedaling squares said:
As I recall, the protest was politicized by nationality, where French riders decided to make a protest to make others look bad. I don't know what Wiggins did or didn't do, but your quote would suggest his position was clear.
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christ almighty! you guys actually want dopers!
i thought i was cynical but you guys are cynical in a psychotic way
i thought i was cynical but you guys are cynical in a psychotic way
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gingerwallaceafro said:
While this is true, he has been happy to praise Armstrong and draw comparisons to US Postal in the past. When people draw those same comparisons, but from a more negative standpoint (i.e. suggesting that as well as the good side of those comparisons he also shares the bad) he throws a fit. Don't invite the comparisons if you don't want people to make them.
Also, I would find it unbelievable if Sky hadn't prepared for the eventuality of being questioned, simply because they aren't total morons. Froome reminded us that we ought to just get used to that the péloton has changed and clean cyclists can dominate. He was roundly told that the péloton ought to just get used to that fans have been being lied to for a quarter of a century and so we aren't capable of showing the blind faith he's expecting of us anymore.
Five years ago, Wiggins said that he knew there was the perception amongst the media of cycling being full of doping, and there were always questions raised about those that won big, and he understood and accepted that. Well, now he's winning big, and those questions are still there. But he's no longer understanding or accepting now that, rather than somebody else, it's HIM the questions are being asked of. His integrity is being impeached, perhaps he expected us to stand and applaud when the lights tell us to and continue to lap up the promotional material like we need to be told how to react. One, two, three, jump. One, two, three, jump.
A lot of fans grew sick of the USPS domination era and were glad to be rid of it. The race was more open, more people could win, and there wasn't the groan of annoyance as a dominant train put man after man out the back whilst still having several domestiques in attendance, crushing unpredictability and competition under its iron grip. And at least the USPS train only rocked up like that once a year. The rest of the year we were free of it. The Sky train has been strangling the life out of races all year long. If fans believed what Sky was doing, many of them would still be bored by it. But many of us aren't buying what Sky are selling, so not only are we bored by it, we are repulsed by it, as it takes us back to those bad old days we'd rather forget. We endured those, and we thought cycling was getting through the worst of it. We sat like gormless idiots and took it. We defended the sport against the attacks of those who knew nothing of it - those who praise the likes of Barcelona and Real Madrid yet attack cycling for being dope-addled. We defended our interest in the sport, we parroted the lines about no sport doing more to clean up its act, we sat by and gave the promotional spiel about how the old days were slowly dying off. We fans, just like Óscar Pereiro said of the péloton he was part of, well, "somos tontos". And just when we thought things were looking up, we get this.
Why continue to tell people about loving the sport when you no longer believe what you're saying?
We afflicted, tortured few, castigated by our heroes, we, upstanding human beings, tired and dutiful, shrouded and protected by gods mantle of truth wear our shirts of hair in the name of cycling. We, we beacons of light in a murky world will not jump 1, 2, 3 when we are being accused of being bone idle and of being ****ing ****s by the yellow jersey (everyone's allowed to have an opinion, right?) , because we are who we are and that is enough. Is it not enough just to be? We? 1,2,3? For it is that which we are. We. We the very, very misunderstood lovers of cycling, we that love cycling more than anyone else, we the Guardians that understand the deeepest meanings and esoteric secrets (that ordinary forum members will never fully understand) will not be moved, no. No. We will....(etc, and so forth).
Moose McKnuckles said:
Nice thoughts you have going on there, interesting what goes on in some peoples minds isn't it? Perhaps that should be called a Moosetache?
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