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lostintime said:
Fanboy? ... You wish . It's just the way it happens all to often in the US .

What do you really think is going to come of these charges? Will the time and money spent do even come close to the meager punishment he may receive? It sounds more to me like guys buttin' heads. Who's gonna be the man the beats the man? LOL ...... grow a set.

Do you actually think LA and his crew will get to keep all the ill-gotten gains?

The Floyd Fairness Fund 2.0 will take care of that!
 

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lostintime said:
How all this will play out is the US Attorney will charge Armstrong with something, he'll beat the charge. The US taxpayers pay a huge attorney bill, and the prosecutor ends up looking like a bigger dope than Armstrong.

Actually the only way a huge bill accrues is if Armstrong contests the charges, with his expensive legal and media team.
Are you suggesting that Armstrong should escape the justice system because he is rich?

lostintime said:
Fanboy? ... You wish . It's just the way it happens all to often in the US .

What do you really think is going to come of these charges? Will the time and money spent do even come close to the meager punishment he may receive? It sounds more to me like guys buttin' heads. Who's gonna be the man the beats the man? LOL ...... grow a set.

For a narcissist like Armstrong being viewed by the general pubic as a fraud that would be a crushing punishment and a deterrent to future 'stars' that their celebrity or money counts for little. So the answer is yes.
 
Nov 24, 2010
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lostintime said:
How all this will play out is the US Attorney will charge Armstrong with something, he'll beat the charge. The US taxpayers pay a huge attorney bill, and the prosecutor ends up looking like a bigger dope than Armstrong.


I am not on the same wave length as you lostintime. The something could well be multiples. I think Novitzky & co learned a lot from the Balco case. This time round, their investigative techniques are now fine tuned. No charge will be beaten. Admittedly miracle boy will spend mega dollars on the defense. In the final wash up, the taxpayers wont be paying his attorney bill. With Novitzky supplying "the real truth", the prosecutor is dealt a win win pack of cards.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oyM3bTkCEQ
Fact is Greg LeMond won 3 tdf titles clean. Question: Who is the only jealous cyclist to allege GL rode doped?

cheers dallas
 
Dallas_ said:
... Admittedly miracle boy will spend mega dollars on the defense...

And, rather than any sort of jail time, I am hoping for treble damages and having to cover the Governments costs. That way taxpayers should be happy and everyone will come out a winner! :rolleyes:

BTW - Where is that Fabiani guy hiding now that the howitzers are firing?

Dave.
 
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Dallas_ said:
I am not on the same wave length as you lostintime. The something could well be multiples. I think Novitzky & co learned a lot from the Balco case. This time round, their investigative techniques are now fine tuned. No charge will be beaten.

Huh? They haven't even learned enough from the Balco case to actually finish that case. It took four years to investigate before they charged Bonds and that was over three years ago and yet they still can't get their **** together enough to actually enter a courtroom.


Dr. Maserati said:
Are you suggesting that Armstrong should escape the justice system because he is rich?

This type of statement never makes much sense to me. After all, there has yet to be a defendant in the history of the united states who is richer than the prosecution! Of course the expense accounts are a bit more even in the case of a rich defendant than they are when the local pot dealer gets charged, but the rich guy's resources still pale in comparison to that of the government.
 
Aug 13, 2009
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stephens said:
Huh? They haven't even learned enough from the Balco case to actually finish that case. It took four years to investigate before they charged Bonds and that was over three years ago and yet they still can't get their **** together enough to actually enter a courtroom.

You make the misguided assumption that Balco was just about Bonds, it was not. 13 people have been sentenced or given pleas. Bonds has done a good job of delaying the inevitable.
 
stephens said:
After all, there has yet to be a defendant in the history of the united states who is richer than the prosecution! Of course the expense accounts are a bit more even in the case of a rich defendant than they are when the local pot dealer gets charged, but the rich guy's resources still pale in comparison to that of the government.

Michael Milken, OJ Simpson, Bernie Madoff...

You seem to think the entire financial resources of the federal gov (let alone the state or local government) are available, which of course is not the case. For the OJ case, e.g., the gov. spent about 9 million. OJ may or may not have outspent the government, but his resources definitely did not "pale in comparison". There have been plenty of defendants with that kind of cash available. Certainly LA has it.
 
Jun 21, 2010
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Berzin said:
It will keep the fraud from morphing into the gross and unrealistic spectacle it's been for the seven years Armstrong won the Tour.

It will tone down the expectation that only superhuman performances matter.

It will keep all those disappointed fanboys from believing in miracles when miracles are physiologically beyond a rider's grasp, and bring some sanity to what is possible and not possible in athletics.

You are SOOO blind if you think Armstrong is BAD and Contador is GOOD. It's hilarious to see you defend, defend, defend Contador and attack, attack, attack Armstrong. They probably followed the same doping regime! Take off the Conti-Underoos, it might improve the circulation to body parts critical to rational thought.
 

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Dallas_ said:
I am not on the same wave length as you lostintime. The something could well be multiples. I think Novitzky & co learned a lot from the Balco case. This time round, their investigative techniques are now fine tuned. No charge will be beaten. Admittedly miracle boy will spend mega dollars on the defense. In the final wash up, the taxpayers wont be paying his attorney bill. With Novitzky supplying "the real truth", the prosecutor is dealt a win win pack of cards.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oyM3bTkCEQ
Fact is Greg LeMond won 3 tdf titles clean. Question: Who is the only jealous cyclist to allege GL rode doped?

cheers dallas

Please do not be a conspiracy terist and insinuate that my Lance is Jealous. Only haters are jealous, Lance and his fans are classy, educated, intelligent and informed. We have no reason to be jealous.

Haters are jealous and bitter. GL is a great and cleanomerta, rider. He is jealous and bitter though. Just wanted to share that with you. signed, a friend.PS go cowgirls
 
warmfuzzies said:
You are SOOO blind if you think Armstrong is BAD and Contador is GOOD. It's hilarious to see you defend, defend, defend Contador and attack, attack, attack Armstrong. They probably followed the same doping regime! Take off the Conti-Underoos, it might improve the circulation to body parts critical to rational thought.

Absolutely. I've said it before and I'll say it again-the only doper that's ever gotten under my skin is Armstrong.

And I'm a Contador fan.

Fairness has nothing to do with it. It's about liking a particular rider and disliking another. Nothing fair or unbiased about it, it's a preference.

If you think this makes me a hypocrite, I must say that is some mighty good detective work you've done there, exposing me in such a manner.

Especially since I'm not the least bit concerned with what you or anyone else thinks about it.
 
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I stand by the belief this is just guys buttin' heads. The Feds vs. Armstrong.

You know .... I don't care if riders dope. If someone is so shocked and hurt that Armstrong doped . . . it's your pain. So you feel slighted. Deal with it. Get a pair of balls, take it like a man and move on. But don't give me this after the fact vindictive crap that he's a liar so we should string him up for taking drugs and hang him. Grow up.

How many times do we as people repeat the same behavior over and over and over and over, but don't learn a fracking thing.
 
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Race Radio said:
You make the misguided assumption that Balco was just about Bonds, it was not. 13 people have been sentenced or given pleas. Bonds has done a good job of delaying the inevitable.

For the record, it was the prosecution, not Bonds, who delayed the trial start date from march '09 to march '11 (scheduled).

And what is the inevitable? Probation? Bonds (allegedly) cheated in a sport that Americans care about a million times more than cycling and he'll do no jail time. Considering that, the predictions of what will happen to Armstrong are way over the top.
 
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lostintime said:
I stand by the belief this is just guys buttin' heads. The Feds vs. Armstrong.

You know .... I don't care if riders dope. If someone is so shocked and hurt that Armstrong doped . . . it's your pain. So you feel slighted. Deal with it. Get a pair of balls, take it like a man and move on. But don't give me this after the fact vindictive crap that he's a liar so we should string him up for taking drugs and hang him. Grow up.

How many times do we as people repeat the same behavior over and over and over and over, but don't learn a fracking thing.

Another cycling purist, I see. From LA being a freak of nature to "I don't care if riders dope"....

Someone should write a book. "The fall of the Fanboy."
 
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lostintime said:
I stand by the belief this is just guys buttin' heads. The Feds vs. Armstrong.

You know .... I don't care if riders dope. If someone is so shocked and hurt that Armstrong doped . . . it's your pain. So you feel slighted. Deal with it. Get a pair of balls, take it like a man and move on. But don't give me this after the fact vindictive crap that he's a liar so we should string him up for taking drugs and hang him. Grow up.

How many times do we as people repeat the same behavior over and over and over and over, but don't learn a fracking thing.

I've thought the guy was a douchebag narcissist since he did his whole pointing to the sky thing after Casartelli's death. Anyone with a brain could see that he was trying to look like a man who cared, and was merely approximating the emotions of a real person instead of actually feeling it himself.

Past that, it isn't about the doping, it is about the manner he chose in covering it up. I mean, he used images of cancer patients to berate people who pointed out the fact that he was doping. Hell, I've known the guy was a doping liar for the past 10 years. Deluded fanboys like you are the only ones who didn't grasp that reality until the last year or so.

As for growing a set, your hero needs to grow a full set, I already have one.
 
Mar 19, 2009
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C'mon . . . . you guys are like jilted lovers. Your beloved peloton takes drugs just to fool your arbitrary sense of fair play. You think you got burned ..... now you want revenge.
 
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lostintime said:
C'mon . . . . you guys are like jilted lovers. Your beloved peloton takes drugs just to fool your arbitrary sense of fair play. You think you got burned ..... now you want revenge.

Poor analogy.

Your hero is up to his neck in corruption and you see no problem.
 
Aug 13, 2009
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lostintime said:
I stand by the belief this is just guys buttin' heads. The Feds vs. Armstrong.

You know .... I don't care if riders dope. If someone is so shocked and hurt that Armstrong doped . . . it's your pain. So you feel slighted. Deal with it. Get a pair of balls, take it like a man and move on. But don't give me this after the fact vindictive crap that he's a liar so we should string him up for taking drugs and hang him. Grow up.

How many times do we as people repeat the same behavior over and over and over and over, but don't learn a fracking thing.

Do you care if they cheat on their taxes and bribe foreign agencies?
 
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lostintime said:
C'mon . . . . you guys are like jilted lovers. Your beloved peloton takes drugs just to fool your arbitrary sense of fair play. You think you got burned ..... now you want revenge.

Troll much?
 
Nov 24, 2010
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guilder said:
Speaking of taxes, what a waste of taxpayer money this witch hunt is.

guilder, where have I heard that statement before? Sounds like you live next door to the spin doctor fabiani. Deflection, always deflection. One common trait of fanboys -> "please dont reveal the truth. It will tarnish our hero's image". It is quite obvious you cannot handle the truth being revealed. ....taxpayers money, witch hunt....sounds just like a broken record.
Question for you guilder > what is your definition of a witch hunt? the answer will definitely provide entertainment

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmR9k8UAohs

cheers dallas
 
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guilder said:
Speaking of taxes, what a waste of taxpayer money this witch hunt is.

Don't worry, the government gets to collect triple damages if they win the whistleblower suit. Who knows, maybe they will actually end up making money when all is said and done. :)
 
guilder said:
Speaking of taxes, what a waste of taxpayer money this witch hunt is.

I have to agree. It is an absolute waste of tax payers money. This money is better spent on much more important things. But if Armstrong just did as he had been telling everyone he was doing by training and racing clean then we wouldn't need to waste our money. Don't blame Floyd. Don't blame the investigators. Blame Armstrong who thought a great idea to not only use himself but traffic, distribute and force others to use drugs whilst denying everything. If you need to take out your anger on someone look no further than the Big Tex.
 

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