Race Radio said:When the charges are filed I promise to accept your apology with grace and not rub your nose in it
Perhaps. Even a broken clock is right twice a day. And you're quoting a forum poster's GUESS????
Race Radio said:When the charges are filed I promise to accept your apology with grace and not rub your nose in it
MarkvW said:Perhaps. Even a broken clock is right twice a day. And you're quoting a forum poster's GUESS????
JA.Tri said:I was just putting forward one possible justification for RR stance.
Underlying this was the thought that I (and others) do/may not know of what RR is privy to.
Perhaps RR if asked may provide some insight... and that may be a better way of resolving your query (rather than indicating that RR has no knowledge of the state of play).
MarkvW said:The news that RR implies that he is privy to would be extremely valuable as news. RR's veiled implications of superior knowledge are not credible. If there was a leak (or a superior guess based upon carefully gathered intelligence, as you hypothesize), it would be showing up in a news story before it would be revealed by a series of elliptical Clinic posts.
Really? Seems to me peoples' buddies learn about rumours and happenings faster than journalists. If a journalist did learn about it, is the source going to want to be quoted? Doubtful at this stage of the game. So the journalist/editor has to decide whether to print an unsubstantiated rumour that might not be validated by events for several months if not years. And the publisher has to deal with mouthpieces like Fabricatani in the interim. I'm sure most credible news outlets wait for something concrete before they go to print. Unlike message boards. There is a lot of crap here but an occasional gold nugget too. I think that in many cases the buddy system is still a fast and accurate source of information.MarkvW said:The news that RR implies that he is privy to would be extremely valuable as news. RR's veiled implications of superior knowledge are not credible. If there was a leak (or a superior guess based upon carefully gathered intelligence, as you hypothesize), it would be showing up in a news story before it would be revealed by a series of elliptical Clinic posts.
MarkvW said:The news that RR implies that he is privy to would be extremely valuable as news. RR's veiled implications of superior knowledge are not credible. If there was a leak (or a superior guess based upon carefully gathered intelligence, as you hypothesize), it would be showing up in a news story before it would be revealed by a series of elliptical Clinic posts.
Race Radio said:Look, it is not my fault your friends do not share stuff with you.
People talk. The news gets around. Are they going to call up Tim Herman or Fabiani? No. They are also not going to talk with a reporter on the record.
Don't worry, we will all find out who is right soon enough.
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How do you "resolve the charges'?
Plead guilty to a lesser charge?
Plead guilty to a white lie instead of perjury?
Pay a fine? Would seem unfair to buy your way out of a charge.
Not everyone wealthy enough for that.
What is the procedure....
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-bonds-steroids
ps....gotta love the 1000+ comments at the end of the article...
Sounds familiar
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Polish said:How do you "resolve the charges'?
Plead guilty to a lesser charge?
Plead guilty to a white lie instead of perjury?
Pay a fine? Would seem unfair to buy your way out of a charge.
Not everyone wealthy enough for that.
What is the procedure....
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-bonds-steroids
ps....gotta love the 1000+ comments at the end of the article...
Sounds familiar
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D-Queued said:Uhm... Start by asking your attorney?
The reason for your post is... trolling?
Dave.
Polish said:How do you "resolve the charges'?
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Polish said:Relax Dave.
This is a thread about the upcoming Barry Bonds trial.
Due to start in 3 weeks...
My post highlights a recent statement by the Federal Judge in the case.
Judge wants the parties to "resolve the charges" instead of going to Trial.
Wanting to discuss this in the Clinic is not trolling Dave.
Its topical.
Relevent.
Interesting to some.
The Federal Judge and the Federal Prosecutors seem to want to resolve out of court. After 8+ years of chasing Barry. "Resolve" at the last possible moment out of court.
Should Barry take them up on the offer, or fight it out in court?
The comments at the end of the article are fun also.
"WitchHunt" "Waste of Gov Money" "Level Playing Field"
Wonder if Barry employs interns and Public Stratigies.
Of course, there are plenty of Barry Haterz too.
Polish said:How do you "resolve the charges'?
Plead guilty to a lesser charge?
Plead guilty to a white lie instead of perjury?
Pay a fine? Would seem unfair to buy your way out of a charge.
Not everyone wealthy enough for that.
What is the procedure....
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-bonds-steroids
ps....gotta love the 1000+ comments at the end of the article...
Sounds familiar
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Polish said:Interesting new piece about Jury Nullification
It appears a Jury can Acquit a Defendant if they feel the Trial is a Witch Hunt or "believe the law is unjust or because they believe it is being used in an unjust way'.
However, the Defense is not allowed to tell the Jury about Nullification.
Boy, if Lance ever goes to trial - "Jury Nulification" will be a big concern for the Prosecution I would think.
Much bigger than the Bond's Trial lol.
If Lance ever goes to trial, will the Defense be able to wear LiveStrong Bracelets?
How about the Judge?
Read more at the San Francisco Examiner: http://www.sfexaminer.com/local/201...jury-nullification-bonds-trial##ixzz1FHnt1Tmr
Juliet Macur
Jeff Novitzky, the lead federal investigator in the Balco case, is sitting at the prosecution's table at today's Barry Bonds hearing. #balco
3 hours ago
Prosecutors say the recordings and transcripts are evidence of Bonds' steroid use because the drugs supposedly induce rage in some users.
This is telling about Novitzky and his boss. Mostly legal experts say that the government team knew that this would not make it to the jury but instead was done just to make Bonds look worse than he does to the public . Bonds is being described as crabbyD-Queued said:For those looking for clues from the Barry Bonds trial, there was this update today:
Bonds' messages to ex-mistress released
Apparently this is part of a characterization of the accused:
Will tweets be next?
Dave.
That can't be serious, right? right? It looks like it might be time for the prosecution to, paraphrasing tricky ****, "settle, declare victory and get the &*% out".D-Queued said:For those looking for clues from the Barry Bonds trial, there was this update today:
Bonds' messages to ex-mistress released
Apparently this is part of a characterization of the accused:
Will tweets be next?
Dave.
kurtinsc said:As a US taxpayer... I think they should drop the case personally.
How many millions are we paying in an attempt to put a guy in jail who screwed his body up with drugs?
I mean... I'm okay with it if we're talking about a cheap and easy slam dunk... and I'm okay with it in a case where going after drug suppliers.
But I fail to see how putting Barry Bonds in jail does anything to actually help the US taxpayer in any way.
I guess I understand there's a need to protect our court systems from people willfully lying under oath. I undertand how you need to punish people who do that to discourage others from doing the same. But if it takes this much work to actually prove that the guy lied... it doesn't seem worth the money.
kurtinsc said:As a US taxpayer... I think they should drop the case personally.
How many millions are we paying in an attempt to put a guy in jail who screwed his body up with drugs?
I mean... I'm okay with it if we're talking about a cheap and easy slam dunk... and I'm okay with it in a case where going after drug suppliers.
But I fail to see how putting Barry Bonds in jail does anything to actually help the US taxpayer in any way.
I guess I understand there's a need to protect our court systems from people willfully lying under oath. I undertand how you need to punish people who do that to discourage others from doing the same. But if it takes this much work to actually prove that the guy lied... it doesn't seem worth the money.
kurtinsc said:As a US taxpayer... I think they should drop the case personally.
How many millions are we paying in an attempt to put a guy in jail who screwed his body up with drugs?
I mean... I'm okay with it if we're talking about a cheap and easy slam dunk... and I'm okay with it in a case where going after drug suppliers.
But I fail to see how putting Barry Bonds in jail does anything to actually help the US taxpayer in any way.
I guess I understand there's a need to protect our court systems from people willfully lying under oath. I undertand how you need to punish people who do that to discourage others from doing the same. But if it takes this much work to actually prove that the guy lied... it doesn't seem worth the money.