Is it Systemic?

[TubularBills]

Are... opportunistic doping (the individual), mechanical doping, political doping and systemic doping the same thing?

 

[observer]

no.

 

[Ramon Koran]

Yes, there are no different kinds of doping either you do or you don't.

 

[gillan1969]

the system doesn't care why you dope only that you dope (or at a minimum be 'comfortable' with those that do)......

 

[del1962]

I wish people wouldn't use terms like mechanical doping, a motor powered bike would not be doping but another form of cheating, doping should just be used to describe putting drugs and blood into your body

 

[Alex Simmons/RST]

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I wish people wouldn't use terms like mechanical doping, a motor powered bike would not be doping but another form of cheating, doping should just be used to describe putting drugs and blood into your body

WADA defines doping quite clearly, and it includes more than putting drugs and blood into your system (but not other forms of cheating such as illegal use of mechanical aids, except of course if such aids were used to break an anti doping rule).

From the WADA code:

Doping is defined as the occurrence of one or more of the anti-doping rule violations set forth in Article 2.1 through Article 2.10 of the Code.

While doping is clearly defined, there is a difference in the manner in which doping is deemed to have occurred and the sanctions that apply.

 

[TourOfTexas]

It is in Spain. Top country with the top team, and a country that widely celebrates Valverde, a proven doper. Coincidence? I think not.

 

[DirtyWorks]

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Yes, there are no different kinds of doping either you do or you don't.

Doping is not black and white. For some, the choice is very simple. For others....

Meanwhile, is never testing positive doping or not doping? The doper would say it is not doping.

99% of athletes could improve their normal T:E ratio from about 1:1 to a juiced 3:1 and never come close to testing positive. Great recovery too. Do they dope?

Too many stakeholders disinterested in running a clean-ish sport, so doping is okay to the UCI, national federations and the IOC.

 

[Alex Simmons/RST]

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Meanwhile, is never testing positive doping or not doping? The doper would say it is not doping.

If they breach the anti doping code, then yes it is doping. Whether or not they get caught and/or sanctioned is a separate matter.

 

[HSNHSN]

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I wish people wouldn't use terms like mechanical doping, a motor powered bike would not be doping but another form of cheating, doping should just be used to describe putting drugs and blood into your body

I don't think I ever realised that eating black pudding would be an illegal activity for sportsmen.