Is it time for minimum weights?

[Alpechraxler]

And i forget to mention think about the company producing it they have an interest in selling Telmisartan over other Sartans. So they will do some fancy experiments with diabetic/obese rats. It's just about money.

 

[DirtyWorks]

To further prove my point i am way ahead of my dad performance wise who is taking it together with a masking agent...

I'm not an authority on the topic at all, so perhaps there is no benefit. Comparing your performance to your father's is just one anecdote.

Maybe I'm missing the implied humor of your Dad using masking agents?

 

[workingclasshero]

I agree with the OP. And to prevent cheating by changing bikes the extra weight should be added to their helmets

yes good idea, changing helmets IS impossible after all

 

[Microchip]

What is this!?!?! What could possibly be wrong with sporting a pound or two extra!?!

About 10-20 seconds slower on Alpe d'Huez

Dawggie Dawg looks like a real animal whilst flexing those massive tendons

Well … perhaps they can remove their appendix, and maybe portions of other organs. You know, the intestines don’t have to be that long!

 

[Fatclimber]

Well … perhaps they can remove their appendix, and maybe portions of other organs. You know, the intestines don’t have to be that long!

I heard of one fella who even had a nad lopped off. . I thought about that too when chicken's obsession was the hot topic. Don't need: ring fingers or pinkies, ears can go, are toes really necessary? And yeah, there must be an abundance of extra guts, could fill the void with a helium-filled bladder.

 

[Bavarianrider]

Yes , yes and yes. It's more than time for minimum weight. Bring in BMI rules for god's sake!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Bavarianrider]

Anyone who doesn't see that cycling has crossed a very dangerous line in terms of riders weights in blind or simply ignorant, sorry.

 

[Maaaaaaaarten]

I would think it's a good idea to have some sort of norm for the weight of riders, but it shouldn't be something simplistic like an absolute minimum weight or bmi. But I'm sure medics should be able to come up with some good measure for determining whether it's getting dangerous or not.

 

[Bavarianrider]

I would think it's a good idea to have some sort of norm for the weight of riders, but it shouldn't be something simplistic like an absolute minimum weight or bmi. But I'm sure medics should be able to come up with some good measure for determining whether it's getting dangerous or not.

No rocket science.
Just like doping tests, there could be random tests in the morning before races. If a rider doesn't have a certain body fat/body muscle value, he is taken out of the race.

 

[horsinabout]

No rocket science.
Just like doping tests, there could be random tests in the morning before races. If a rider doesn't have a certain body fat/body muscle value, he is taken out of the race.

I have a better idea, why not ban the unethical doping programs they clearly are engaged in. Just a thought....

 

[Microchip]

I would think it's a good idea to have some sort of norm for the weight of riders, but it shouldn't be something simplistic like an absolute minimum weight or bmi. But I'm sure medics should be able to come up with some good measure for determining whether it's getting dangerous or not.

Tyler related in his book, that he got so thin all his veins were visible. Something like that he said.

 

[biopass]

Weight classes in pro cycling, thats sounds boring.

 

[datalore]

Given that some of the performance enhancing drugs in use today are targeted at weight loss, and in the face of remarkable changes in the physiology of several recently successful riders, is it time to introduce minimum rider weights?

No, it isn't. It isn't reasonable to assume that weight loss indicates that someone is doping, or that dropping weight is even an advantage for all riders. Furthermore, the smallest riders aren't winning everything, so I don't see how imposing a minimum weight would have any meaningful effect on results.

 

[horsinabout]

No, it isn't. It isn't reasonable to assume that weight loss indicates that someone is doping, or that dropping weight is even an advantage for all riders. Furthermore, the smallest riders aren't winning everything, so I don't see how imposing a minimum weight would have any meaningful effect on results.

I think you are getting yourself all mixed up. When you look like froome, which is an unprecedented emaciated appearance of the like the sport has not seen before, is absolutely and in every way reasonable to assume doping.

 

[Maaaaaaaarten]

Look at Wiggins arms when he was still riding for cofidis

and look at it in the TDF he won

that's just not healthy

 

[Microchip]

I think you are getting yourself all mixed up. When you look like froome, which is an unprecedented emaciated appearance of the like the sport has not seen before, is absolutely and in every way reasonable to assume doping.

And you can include Rasmussen in ‘unprecedented’ appearance. Is it healthy to have the bare minimum of covering over your bones? That’s a rhetoric question.

 

[Cycle Chic]

I think this is a great idea and would stop the sport's obsession and necessity with weight loss. Having a minimum body fat percentage for riders would eliminate the advantage of leanness.

 

[hfer07]

damn- every time I look at that Rasmussen photo I get the chills-its just so wrong man....ewww

 

[Netserk]

damn- every time I look at that Rasmussen photo I get the chills-its just so wrong man....ewww

He takes the tan line to a previous unseen level

 

[datalore]

I think you are getting yourself all mixed up. When you look like froome, which is an unprecedented emaciated appearance of the like the sport has not seen before, is absolutely and in every way reasonable to assume doping.

Plenty of people have been that skinny in the sport. This may come as a huge shock to almost everyone in the clinic, but correlation does not imply causation.

 

[alitogata]

And you can include Rasmussen in ‘unprecedented’ appearance. Is it healthy to have the bare minimum of covering over your bones? That’s a rhetoric question.

With this low weight and all these moles on his body he looks like an AIDS patient.. Brrrrr...

 

[BroDeal]

Plenty of people have been that skinny in the sport. This may come as a huge shock to almost everyone in the clinic, but correlation does not imply causation.

Correlation does not prove causation but it is a damn big clue.

 

[blackcat]

Plenty of people have been that skinny in the sport. This may come as a huge shock to almost everyone in the clinic, but correlation does not imply causation.

it may indeed imply symptom or inverted cause.

you meant to say, correlation DOES NOT axiomatically equal causation.

in this case, it does.

have a good look at bodybuilders now. in the previous era, they needed to get about 10-15% heavier than competition weight, then refine in the last weeks with cardio.

now they only have to drop about 2-3%. Also, these cyclists, unlike the riders in the 80s who looked about 40 when they got to age 30 and retirement, and their skin sagging, and jowlie, now the athletes/cyclists after 10, and sometimes 20 seasons like jens and stuey, with 20k mile catabolic seasons, all have shiney skin, not fat, male model jawlines.

they only exception is lief hoste! \o/

 

[jw1979]

a bit of a tangent, but Rasmussen isn't as skinny as i previously thought, he's just exceptionally white! if his torso were the same color as his forearms people wouldn't find him nearly as shocking. he looks like a world-class runner.

 

[DirtyWorks]

Plenty of people have been that skinny in the sport. This may come as a huge shock to almost everyone in the clinic, but correlation does not imply causation.

This is a failed argument in many different ways. Tobacco companies claim their products don't cause cancer. Because, you know, correlation is not causation. Yet somehow, more often than not those tobacco problems contribute to a wide range of health problems. No causation though. Nice, right?

And then there's the reality that we'll all be long dead trying to establish causation in some time that's long lost most detail.

There is nothing scientific about what we're doing either. As it is, we've been given all manner of ridiculous excuses including ephemeral twins and giant arteries that never existed. So few are honest it remains a puzzle.

Some of these guys are setting new extremes in skinny and extraordinary power over weeks and weeks in a manner simply not seen before. You can probably thank an AICAR cocktail. Given there's not sufficient proof for causation, maybe it's super-magic cadence? Anatomical anomalies? Maybe they should check for ephemeral twins?