Is Odd Christian Eiking an Odd, Christian Viking?

[johnymax]

Is Odd keeping the jersey till the Lagos de Covadonga stage?

 

[Roku]

The only possible choice is Oskar Svendsen. In my PCM 14 game he has turned into a Top Sprinter with TT pedigree.

This is the same universe where Alexey Tsatevich won twice / thrice MSR with my Gazprom team.

 

[laarsland]

Not to sound boring or ... odd, but if it is of any interest: The real meaning of the Norwegian word "Odd" is something like the pointy and sharp end. Such as the tip of an arrow or a pointy end of a landmass towards the sea. You could maybe even use it as the front of a peloton. In other words, for a Norwegian it is a very suiting name for a red jersey wearer at the Vuelta.

Given he hails from the isles outside of Bergen, the etymology of his given name is most likely "Cape" in this instance.

I'll also let you know the twin curse of it being Eiking's stomping grounds and having hosted the WC, most segments around here are put on the shelf as far as taking Strava-KOMs.

 

[Mayomaniac]

I am not sure to what extent the cooperation between Klæbo and Uno-X has anything to do with cycling. Other than Klæbo doing roller ski competition in the summer in Uno-X kit and an orange helmet. I guess they just see a good investment in him as a sponsoring object. I know that he likes cycling, but a lot of skiers do and some of them does some of their training on bikes. But the best skiers usually are built differently from cyclists. They have much more upper body strength. There are similarities, but cycling in the summer alone wouldn't be enough to become a good xc-skier.

The lighter skiers (the kind of guys who often have the best time on the Alpe Cermis) like Krüger or Roethe could be good cyclists. Roland Clara, who is from the same village as my mother, had the Alpe Cermis record for a few years and despite the extra upper body mass he was only 65kg and by all accounts a monster on the roadbike once the road went uphill. He raced the Maratona dles Dolomites a few times and I've heard stories about him keeping up with wt pros when they were training in the Dolomites.

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

Well. I said, most likely, but it still might be stretching it. Sometimes it is hard to say. I am no linguist and the Norwegian language has moved away from old norse. I have no idea how many % of words to do with farming are norse, but I am guessing a whole lot.

At least the farm animals are obvious norse: cow - ku, sheep - sau, chicken - kylling and so on. Once you start cooking them, they get french, beef - beuf and such. I guess the brits liked their cooking better and I don't blame them

After the Norman Conquest (the historic event, not the Australian goalkeeper), the French (or some dialect thereof)-speaking landowners and rulers had the meat they enjoyed known by the names they were familiar with, but had little interest in the means of production: animal handling was left to the Anglo-Saxon speaking peasantry.

 

[Norbea]

The lighter skiers (the kind of guys who often have the best time on the Alpe Cermis) like Krüger or Roethe could be good cyclists. Roland Clara, who is from the same village as my mother, had the Alpe Cermis record for a few years and despite the extra upper body mass he was only 65kg and by all accounts a monster on the roadbike once the road went uphill. He raced the Maratona dles Dolomites a few times and I've heard stories about him keeping up with wt pros when they were training in the Dolomites.

Many of the Norwegian cyclists were xc-skiers in their youth and often it has been the first sport they competed in. Kurt Asle Arvesen, Edvald Boasson Hagen, Carl Fredrik Hagen, Andreas Leknessund and many others have been skiers. But it is the national sport so naturally it is often the first thing kids are joining in on in Norway.

 

[Norbea]

After the Norman Conquest (the historic event, not the Australian goalkeeper),

So, the one by William, of the lineage of Rollo (or more precisely "Gangr Rolf" among his fellow vikings). Again. Norse!

 

[Mayomaniac]

Many of the Norwegian cyclists were xc-skiers in their youth and often it has been the first sport they competed in. Kurt Asle Arvesen, Edvald Boasson Hagen, Carl Fredrik Hagen, Andreas Leknessund and many others have been skiers. But it is the national sport so naturally it is often the first thing kids are joining in on in Norway.

Yeah, that's like saying an athlete from Austria or South Tyrol did Alpine Skiing when he was young.

 

[Red Rick]

Is Odd keeping the jersey till the Lagos de Covadonga stage?

I don't see how.

I expect him to get dropped tomorrow. And if he hangs on by a thread I think there's a large chance Movistar, Ineos or Bahrain will try to create mayhem on Sunday even though the climbs are probably too easy to create seperation between the top GC guys.

 

[RedheadDane]

I don't see how.

I expect him to get dropped tomorrow. And if he hangs on by a thread I think there's a large chance Movistar, Ineos or Bahrain will try to create mayhem on Sunday even though the climbs are probably too easy to create seperation between the top GC guys.

In other words; you wouldn't consider the odds that he could keep the jersey to be very great?

 

[Red Rick]

In other words; you wouldn't consider the odds that he could keep the jersey to be very great?

IMO should just go in break tomorrow for the lulz.

 

[hrotha]

Even for a Norwegian who knows English it is surprising to learn how much of the English language is norse. Some of the words are obvious to us: Such as "husbond" that is easily understood as the man in the household or the house farmer in Norwegian, basically same word or meaning, but it relates much more to marriage in English than it would in Norwegian. But some words are not obvious before you think it over. Somehow it took me some time to see that "window" of course comes from "vindu". Same word, same meaning, just different spelling and pronunciation. Basically any English word that has anything to do with farming, household or mundane life for the commons is most likely norse. And anything to do with lordship, fancy dinners or royal things are most likely French.

In this post you happened to use words that are actually Norse borrowings (window, husband), but for the most part the similarities are due to English and the Norse languages being related, not due to direct borrowings. "Cow" for example is 100% native.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

As things stand I'll be surprised if he finishes in the top 10, unless he gets into another break, but stranger things have happened.
If he doesn't completely bonk tomorrow or on Sunday, I'll probably reconsider it.

 

[Eddy Evenepoel]

I checked him as well. But having retired in 2014 doesn't exactly add up with being world class in 2018...

Keyword was “old PCM”. In PCM 13 and 14 (with the right databases) Oskar Svendsen became a beast in long career saves.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Oskar Svensen was seen as a major talent because he had an extreme VO2max, but I believe that also put more pressure on him than he was able to mentally cope with, which was (one of the reasons) why he retired while he was still only 20 years old.
I don't think anyone expected him to become a world class sprinter though, and I can't recall him ever becoming one in my PCM saves either, but my memory might be a bit fuzzy. He usually became a fine TTer at least. We might not have been using the same DBs, of course.

In PCM 2006, Boasson(-)Hagen could become the only rider (sometimes Gilbert would achieve it, too) to reach more than 70 in every category, and sprinting was actually the hardest one to achieve it in. He would usually reach 80 in both TT and climbing.

 

[gunara]

Other than pressure, I remember reading Svendsen also wasn't too keen in tactical aspect of cycling, riding in the peloton, and in descending. It almost seemed to me that he's dragged into and kept in competitive cycling for awhile by his extreme numbers, not mainly by his passion.
He appeared and disappeared quickly, we didn't even have time to hype him enough, for other than his VO2max.

 

[RedheadDane]

Keyword was “old PCM”. In PCM 13 and 14 (with the right databases) Oskar Svendsen became a beast in long career saves.

I was looking at real-life cycling.

 

[Mayomaniac]

Other than pressure, I remember reading Svendsen also wasn't too keen in tactical aspect of cycling, riding in the peloton, and in descending. It almost seemed to me that he's dragged into and kept in competitive cycling for awhile by his extreme numbers, not mainly by his passion.
He appeared and disappeared quickly, we didn't even have time to hype him enough, for other than his VO2max.

If I remember correctly he was only great at riding uphill TTs.
Edit: nope, he was also a junior Itt wc and 5th on the gc in the Tour de l'avenir in 2013, when the field was rather strong.

 

[Norbea]

Svendsen had all the physical talent in the world, but it doesn't matter, his mind wasn't in it and he had other priorities.

 

[Armchaircyclist]

Another great performance by Eiking today ! Maybe an indication that he can get a top 10 all the way to the end ? Great fun for me to see a local guy performing like this Hoping that the top guys will just run a steady safe pace omorrow as well, and that he can hang on again Showing great fighting spirit !!!

 

[Armchaircyclist]

Not much faith from the Norwegian commentators before todays stage, but Eiking did it again Now the Norwegian rider with most days in red in la Vuelta, congratulations

 

[Ilmaestro99]

Keeping an important red Jersey into the Final week for wanty. Great job

 

[Tricycle Rider]

Keeping an important red Jersey into the Final week for wanty. Great job

He may not be able to hold on to the red jersey in the final week, but the way I think of it is at least this gives the usual winter sport talent/fans in Norway some exposure to cycling, plus the team itself may appreciate the exposure because no sponsorship or contract in cycling should ever be taken for granted.

So, it's all good whichever way you look at it. I think.

 

[SHAD0W93]

Honestly I’m down for him to win, especially if it’s by like 1” and he kept the jersey the whole last week. It would be even crazier if it was Rein instead of him in my opinion.

 

[Sciatic]

I'm sure it's a great boon for Wanty (corporate), and a nice boost for teammates who have held up well defending the jersey and assuming their responsibility at the front of the bunch. It's tiring sure, but I bet the team dinners are so much more fun!