Is Roglic past his prime?

[Cookster15]

Sadly I think yes.

I thought the same of Froome, then 2018 Giro Finestre happened.

I thought the same of Roglic, then Monte Lussari happened in the 2023 Giro.

But I suspect those performances were outliers which concealed an underlying drop in true level.

Then yesterday on San Luca climb, I couldn’t help but think Roglic of old would have bridged to Pidcock along with Del Toro?

 

[CyclistAbi]

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I don't believe Rogla is past his prime and i unfortunately can't vote for any option in the poll as there isn't an option available for Rogla is still No.1.

 

[VayaVayaVaya]

I don't believe Rogla is past his prime and i unfortunately can't vote for any option in the poll as there isn't an option available for Rogla is still No.1.

Surely that’s option 1, unless you think he put up the best results this year?

 

[CyclistAbi]

Surely that’s option 1, unless you think he put up the best results this year?

Well, Tour and Worlds RR did end up being rather successful in terms of comparing to some of the previous seasons. Form seems to be there for most of the races done this year. Team as a whole still IMHO isn't as consistent it would need to be to take on a team such as Visma. UAE on the other hand likely peaking this season and i assume they won't reach this level next season. RBH on the other hand should start to be represented with more numbers, toward the end of the races, going into season 2026. That IMHO will benefit Rogla in terms of winning races.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Márquez had to be patient on when it comes to win drought and Šeško didn't start scoring straight away either.

Rogla will be fine.

 

[Oldman]

I don't believe Rogla is past his prime and i unfortunately can't vote for any option in the poll as there isn't an option available for Rogla is still No.1.

This thread does seem like an opportunity to just over critique a currently enigmatic rider. He does what he wants and seems pretty good with himself. He'll be deified by rabid fans if he wins some Fall races or written off by those that never thought he would be the King.
Unfortunately, this unproductive category of analysis, separate of each rider's own thread will become the bait click thread for those that need combativeness rather than appreciation of good athletes. It serves the thread creator more than the topic in some strange universe.

 

[CyclistAbi]

@Oldman

That and as an opportunity, for the peanut gallery, to come in and claim Rogla is old. No pun intended.

 

[AlpRaid]

He’s done.

Only way he could win the Vuelta is if his competition is the same as Pog’s at 2024 Giro. Probably the weakest field ever assembled.

But I don’t hold out much hope for Remco either, even at Giro. Only way he could beat del Toro is if there is 100kms of flat ITT.

The next generation is not “next” any more. It’s here.

Del Toro, Seixas, Finn. Their full ascendancy depends on Pog, but they will soon be picking off everyone else, at least in terms of GTs.

 

[VayaVayaVaya]

This thread does seem like an opportunity to just over critique a currently enigmatic rider. He does what he wants and seems pretty good with himself. He'll be deified by rabid fans if he wins some Fall races or written off by those that never thought he would be the King.
Unfortunately, this unproductive category of analysis, separate of each rider's own thread will become the bait click thread for those that need combativeness rather than appreciation of good athletes. It serves the thread creator more than the topic in some strange universe.

Your lack of self awareness is shocking. Surely you know this form serves us, not the riders.

 

[hrotha]

Unfortunately, this unproductive category of analysis, separate of each rider's own thread will become the bait click thread for those that need combativeness rather than appreciation of good athletes

Back in the day we had no rider threads, we only had individual threads for individual topics. It encouraged holistic discussion and discouraged cliques. There was relatively little fanboyism. One day people started making rider threads and it's all been downhill since then

Weirdest thing is, you were around to see that too

 

[CyclistAbi]

He’s done.

Only way he could win the Vuelta is if his competition is the same as Pog’s at 2024 Giro. Probably the weakest field ever assembled.

But I don’t hold out much hope for Remco either, even at Giro. Only way he could beat del Toro is if there is 100kms of flat ITT.

The next generation is not “next” any more. It’s here.

Del Toro, Seixas, Finn. Their full ascendancy depends on Pog, but they will soon be picking off everyone else, at least in terms of GTs.

I doubt any of them, the riders you listed, can beat Rogla at a GT anytime soon.

 

[aphronesis]

Back in the day we had no rider threads, we only had individual threads for individual topics. It encouraged holistic discussion and discouraged cliques. There was relatively little fanboyism. One day people started making rider threads and it's all been downhill since then

Weirdest thing is, you were around to see that too

So you’re saying race analysis has declined with that cult tendency? (Not that I doubt you.)

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

This thread does seem like an opportunity to just over critique a currently enigmatic rider. He does what he wants and seems pretty good with himself. He'll be deified by rabid fans if he wins some Fall races or written off by those that never thought he would be the King.
Unfortunately, this unproductive category of analysis, separate of each rider's own thread will become the bait click thread for those that need combativeness rather than appreciation of good athletes. It serves the thread creator more than the topic in some strange universe.

Thread creator is one of the forum's a-tier Roglic fanboys though.