Is Team Sky just part of a bigger plan?

[Spencer the Half Wit]

Quick Google search. In the Guardian and Independant he specifically denied doping, but the Telegraph suggests he admitted it to Brailsford. IMO the latter is closer to the truth.

 

[thehog]

Good times.

 

[del1962]

If you came to see the evidence, well what has been put before you you have treated as nonsense and dismissed, yet very similar evidence was what made Paul Kimmage, David Walsh, Pierre Ballestre and others question Armstrong.

Sky have worked very hard to distance themselves from doping, by getting rid of their proven doping Doctor Leinders and others who have a know doping past.

But we got no explanation why they were hired in the 1st place.

We got no explanation as to why fire them and not others?

We got no explanation about Mick Barry.

We got no explanation how Froome went from losing his contract to podium of a GT in weeks.

There are threads full of stuff that needs explanations, yet all you do is dismiss it all as hatred, yet the same was applied to Armstrong and Landis to a smaller degree.

So please in the 9 months you have been posting you have not sought information but trolled the sky threads dismissing anyone and anything that questions Sky.

It is not similar evidence, or Walsh would not be saying what he is saying now, either he would be vocal against Sky or if he was unsure keeping his own counsel

 

[Benotti69]

Agreed. However, technically not proven, though, as I said, highly suspicious.

But when you add to that what is known about Yates, then it becomes obvious he was a doper. To get proof is extremely hard in pro sport.

 

[Benotti69]

It is not similar evidence, or Walsh would not be saying what he is saying now, either he would be vocal against Sky or if he was unsure keeping his own counsel

I think it is worse, because Wiggins was fully aware (os should've been) about Armstrong's doping and bullying of other riders, so for Wiggins to slam Landis for Landis slamming Armstrong is in my opinion far far worse than Bassons who named no one in his condemnation of the doping.

Walsh should have thrown the book at Wiggins for that!

 

[ianfra]

It was stated very clearly by Sky and by Yates that he left the team (a) to be with his family and (b) because of his ill health. His ill health is well documented. During the Postal/LA era only some riders were invited into the inner doping sanctum. So far I have seen no evidence that Yates was one of the chosen few. Yet although I fully understand the suspicions about this rider - I would ask people not to accuse without evidence. This is just plain wrong. You can voice your suspicions, as I do, but those suspicions are only personal opinion. They are not facts as no facts have emerged. So please don't call him 'a doper'. However, you can carefully phrase your thoughts - perhaps by saying "I think he may have been a doper" or words to that effect. You would certainly earn some respect by doing so. Try it.

 

[Zam_Olyas]

It was stated very clearly by Sky and by Yates that he left the team (a) to be with his family and (b) because of his ill health. His ill health is well documented. During the Postal/LA era only some riders were invited into the inner doping sanctum. So far I have seen no evidence that Yates was one of the chosen few. Yet although I fully understand the suspicions about this rider - I would ask people not to accuse without evidence. This is just plain wrong. You can voice your suspicions, as I do, but those suspicions are only personal opinion. They are not facts as no facts have emerged. So please don't call him 'a doper'. However, you can carefully phrase your thoughts - perhaps by saying "I think he may have been a doper" or words to that effect. You would certainly earn some respect by doing so. Try it.

Reminds me of freddy's gem.

Stop trying to stir !

Sean Yates retired because he was "ill".

Shane moved because he had to concentrate on the track and anyway he had a bump on the head and cannot remember anything about his days at ANC Halfords with Malcolm Elliott. He knows nothing about that nice Rob Hayles.

St David runs absolution classes for anyone being tempted by the dark side, with his tales of "one single moment of madness can ruin your life for ever - let me tell you what happened at 4.35 pm on a single afternoon in my life in 2003. There I was, I had nearly won the 2001 World TT champs but I had never even heard of the phrase EPO let alone thought about using it when all of a sudden.....".

And Super-Dave tells us everyone is so clean that they make white sheets, that have never been slept on and are still in the packet, look dirty, so there is nobody to arrest. Fran confirms these stories for us.

It is just that simple. We are not like your dirty cheating johnny foreigner.

 

[DirtyWorks]

It was stated very clearly by Sky and by Yates that he left the team (a) to be with his family and (b) because of his ill health. His ill health is well documented.

Do you believe that family excuse every time you hear it? I'm not saying it's never true, I'm saying the vast majority of the time, it's an excuse used to step away from political, business, sport scandal.

So far I have seen no evidence that Yates was one of the chosen few.

Whatever you do, don't look at the time Yates rode for Motorola to act as Armstrong's teacher. You know that Motorola team was run by Mr. Clean himself, Och, right? You should probably read Yates' wikipedia page too.