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Is Walsh on the Sky bandwagon?

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thehog said:
Ballester did all the research, Walsh was really only at the Tour and managed to interview Armstrong way back in 1995 (or close to).
2001ish, methinks. There was also, you know, the Emma O'Reilly interview. I'd say that was a fairly important bit. As always, YMMV.
 
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djpbaltimore said:
The Program wasn't released here in theaters, but it is now playing on Direct TV pay per view in the USA. I saw an advertisement for it the other day. That'll rake in a little bit more cash.


Might pay off some of the debt, lol! :rolleyes:
I'm going to give $2.99 to watch it! lol

Noooooooooo! Surely Naked Gun 2 3/4 is a better show? Or Sister Act 2 - Back in the Habit? ;)
 
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Is Walsh on the Sky bandwagon? Of course he's on the Sky bandwagon. Asked and answered. The question is, whose bandwagon was he on before?
 
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ebandit said:
thehog said:
ebandit said:
enjoy jealous haterz

You mean you just admitted to illegally downloading pirated movies

ebandit......not ehonest.....but it's not about me

next members will be calling the cast 'ugly' ...............what a shallow world

Mark L

Illegally downloading a pirated movie is the doping of the movie industry. I'm glad you're comfortable with your actions depriving Walsh of his rightful income.

Good job.
 
The Program has been released on cable TV in the US, skipping cinema release.

Some good reviews coming in:

If there's anything Hollywood loves, it's a rags to riches story. The only thing it likes better is the polar opposite: a fall from grace. The story of cycling champion Lance Armstrong's descent from hero to top heel due to a doping scandal has all of the ingredients to make an incredibly incisive, razor sharp story about athletics, celebrity, media, and more. It had everything. And yet Stephen Frears' "The Program" offers absolutely zero insight into Armstrong, who he was, or why he did what he did. It doesn't even offer up a compelling look at his cycling career, which begs the question: Why does this movie even exist?

http://www.examiner.com/review/review-lance-armstrong-biopic-the-program-is-a-major-let-down

It suggests Frears and Hodge had no earthly idea what kind of story they wanted to tell about Armstrong, just that they wanted to make a movie about him while the time was right. Well, the time wasn't right and "The Program" definitely isn't the right film. Perhaps it's time to just close the book on Armstrong and let him fade into infamy where he belongs.

Sounds like a hit! :rolleyes:
 
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"Perhaps it's time to just close the book on Armstrong and let him fade into infamy where he belongs."

That gets to the core of things, imo.
It was time for that long ago already, in fact it was time for that immediately after Lance had been exposed by USADA and had his titles taken away from him.
If Walsh would've had any kind of common sense of 'doing the right thing', it would've been to let this story go after the usada report.
Instead, what does Walsh do? He not only jumps on the Sky bandwagon (fair enough), he also decides to milk every last penny out of the Lance story, ensuring that Lance continues to make headlines.
What an epic double sell out.
 
thehog said:
The Program has been released on cable TV in the US, skipping cinema release.

Some good reviews coming in:

If there's anything Hollywood loves, it's a rags to riches story. The only thing it likes better is the polar opposite: a fall from grace. The story of cycling champion Lance Armstrong's descent from hero to top heel due to a doping scandal has all of the ingredients to make an incredibly incisive, razor sharp story about athletics, celebrity, media, and more. It had everything. And yet Stephen Frears' "The Program" offers absolutely zero insight into Armstrong, who he was, or why he did what he did. It doesn't even offer up a compelling look at his cycling career, which begs the question: Why does this movie even exist?

http://www.examiner.com/review/review-lance-armstrong-biopic-the-program-is-a-major-let-down

It suggests Frears and Hodge had no earthly idea what kind of story they wanted to tell about Armstrong, just that they wanted to make a movie about him while the time was right. Well, the time wasn't right and "The Program" definitely isn't the right film. Perhaps it's time to just close the book on Armstrong and let him fade into infamy where he belongs.

Sounds like a hit! :rolleyes:

Beautiful.

The failure of walshs fraudulent attempt to take all the glory for Armstrong's fall is truly delicious.

Thanks for the updates.
 
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ebandit said:
funny to see failure gauged purely in $ terms...does walsh talk of disappointment? i bet he's still stoked film was made ..i would be...Mark L
Regardless of why it failed, it's just good to see it fail.

But no, not just in terms of dough. It was a failure in terms of both quality and dough. Those two are still proportional to each other, even in Hollywood. Would Walsh talk of disappointment? No. He's been doing a fair share of propaganda and marketing for the film.
 
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ebandit said:
funny to see failure gauged purely in $ terms...does walsh talk of disappointment? i bet he's still stoked film was made ..i would be...Mark L

Walsh doesn't talk about it because he is too embarrassed what a bomb the film became. He talked it up for months prior to release. I bet Walsh even thought his Sky books would make it into movies, LOL! :rolleyes:

The only person I know who liked the movie is some guy on an internet forum who had to illegally download it! :)
 
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thehog said:
ebandit said:
funny to see failure gauged purely in $ terms...does walsh talk of disappointment? i bet he's still stoked film was made ..i would be...Mark L

Walsh doesn't talk about it because he is too embarrassed what a bomb the film became. He talked it up for months prior to release. I bet Walsh even thought his Sky books would make it into movies, LOL! :rolleyes:

The only person I know who liked the movie is some guy on an internet forum who had to illegally download it! :)
That is very true.

Anywho------remember that story that the FishHack likes to tell ....you know the one where he was watching in the press area on the tv while LA climbed up the mountain won that stage in 99? He had that feeling that what he was watching was a fraud.

I wonder did he watch when his bro's over Sky have done the same thing. If so did he get that same feeling? LMAO at that hypocritical FishHack.
 
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Glenn_Wilson said:
thehog said:
ebandit said:
funny to see failure gauged purely in $ terms...does walsh talk of disappointment? i bet he's still stoked film was made ..i would be...Mark L

Walsh doesn't talk about it because he is too embarrassed what a bomb the film became. He talked it up for months prior to release. I bet Walsh even thought his Sky books would make it into movies, LOL! :rolleyes:

The only person I know who liked the movie is some guy on an internet forum who had to illegally download it! :)
That is very true.

Anywho------remember that story that the FishHack likes to tell ....you know the one where he was watching in the press area on the tv while LA climbed up the mountain won that stage in 99? He had that feeling that what he was watching was a fraud.

I wonder did he watch when his bro's over Sky have done the same thing. If so did he get that same feeling? LMAO at that hypocritical FishHack.

I think Walsh thought in his head that he would be making a Lord of Rings trilogy of movies about Sky from his books. That clearly won't happen.

Walsh appears to be an easy target now for Anglo athletes who want a user friendly books written pretending they are fully cleans (ref: Paula Radcliffe).
 
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Glenn_Wilson said:
remember that story that the FishHack likes to tell ....you know the one where he was watching in the press area on the tv while LA climbed up the mountain won that stage in 99? He had that feeling that what he was watching was a fraud.

I wonder did he watch when his bro's over Sky have done the same thing. If so did he get that same feeling? LMAO at that hypocritical FishHack.

If he was in the newsroom when this happened, it must have at least crossed his mind.

PONT-SAINT-ESPRIT, France (VN) — There was a collective groan among the press corps Sunday when Chris Froome (Sky) turned the screws with about 7km to go on France’s hardest climb to drop Alberto Contador (Saxo-Tinkoff).

No, the freebie buffet hadn’t run out. Team Sky just dropped a Froome bomb. And it pissed people off.

“That attack is not the smartest PR move,” grumbled one scandal-weary scribe, “not if he doesn’t want to raise eyebrows.”

Froome made Contador look like an espoir. The Sky captain spun his legs as if they were well-lubed pistons, churning out huge power, grinding his way toward the Ventoux summit and victory, only to leave a swath of doubt in his wake.

http://velonews.competitor.com/2013/07/news/commentary-is-chris-froome-just-too-good-to-be-true_295224
 
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Robert21 said:
Glenn_Wilson said:
remember that story that the FishHack likes to tell ....you know the one where he was watching in the press area on the tv while LA climbed up the mountain won that stage in 99? He had that feeling that what he was watching was a fraud.

I wonder did he watch when his bro's over Sky have done the same thing. If so did he get that same feeling? LMAO at that hypocritical FishHack.

If he was in the newsroom when this happened, it must have at least crossed his mind.

PONT-SAINT-ESPRIT, France (VN) — There was a collective groan among the press corps Sunday when Chris Froome (Sky) turned the screws with about 7km to go on France’s hardest climb to drop Alberto Contador (Saxo-Tinkoff).

No, the freebie buffet hadn’t run out. Team Sky just dropped a Froome bomb. And it pissed people off.

“That attack is not the smartest PR move,” grumbled one scandal-weary scribe, “not if he doesn’t want to raise eyebrows.”

Froome made Contador look like an espoir. The Sky captain spun his legs as if they were well-lubed pistons, churning out huge power, grinding his way toward the Ventoux summit and victory, only to leave a swath of doubt in his wake.

http://velonews.competitor.com/2013/07/news/commentary-is-chris-froome-just-too-good-to-be-true_295224

Like history repeating itself, I guess Walsh doesn’t see the irony in what he has become.
 
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thehog said:
Like history repeating itself, I guess Walsh doesn’t see the irony in what he has become.

Walsh doesn't get paid for seeing irony, he gets paid for being irony.
 
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Maxiton said:
thehog said:
Like history repeating itself, I guess Walsh doesn’t see the irony in what he has become.

Walsh doesn't get paid for seeing irony, he gets paid for being irony.

"I think it's unfair to say that The Times has become the mouth-piece for Team Sky," he told listeners.
http://www.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/david-walsh-the-times-is-not-a-team-sky-mouthpiece-but-article-in-question-was-daft-31397211.html
 
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sniper said:
Maxiton said:
thehog said:
Like history repeating itself, I guess Walsh doesn’t see the irony in what he has become.

Walsh doesn't get paid for seeing irony, he gets paid for being irony.

"I think it's unfair to say that The Times has become the mouth-piece for Team Sky," he told listeners.
http://www.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/david-walsh-the-times-is-not-a-team-sky-mouthpiece-but-article-in-question-was-daft-31397211.html


Only just saw this, hilarious! Walsh has gone full bot! :eek:
 
I dont like that things abourt SKY, and I dont like team with big money, and I dont like newspapers so close to teams, but things always worrk that way. In spain with contador or Valverdeis the same, is normal, and before was the same with Banesto and Indurain.

I dont like that of walsh, but I understand it is normal that a journalist who has fight againt doping support the team most have do againts doping in cycling history.

Some people could now dont see that, I unerstand his reasons, people could dont like the way SKY do things, but in the future people will admit that. it is a question of time. I dont like a lot of things of SKY, but it is amazing what he can do in a lot of aspect that have been revolutionaries in cycling, so I must recognize that and gratefull to show other people how to improve performance without doping.
 
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Taxus4a said:
I dont like that things abourt SKY, and I dont like team with big money, and I dont like newspapers so close to teams, but things always worrk that way. In spain with contador or Valverdeis the same, is normal, and before was the same with Banesto and Indurain.

I dont like that of walsh, but I understand it is normal that a journalist who has fight againt doping support the team most have do againts doping in cycling history.

Some people could now dont see that, I unerstand his reasons, people could dont like the way SKY do things, but in the future people will admit that. it is a question of time. I dont like a lot of things of SKY, but it is amazing what he can do in a lot of aspect that have been revolutionaries in cycling, so I must recognize that and gratefull to show other people how to improve performance without doping.

I really have missed you in the Clinic... please.. just one 'cleans' for old times sake? :)

A Valverdeis just won't do.
 
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Taxus4a said:
I dont like that things abourt SKY, and I dont like team with big money, and I dont like newspapers so close to teams, but things always worrk that way. In spain with contador or Valverdeis the same, is normal, and before was the same with Banesto and Indurain.

I dont like that of walsh, but I understand it is normal that a journalist who has fight againt doping support the team most have do againts doping in cycling history.

Some people could now dont see that, I unerstand his reasons, people could dont like the way SKY do things, but in the future people will admit that. it is a question of time. I dont like a lot of things of SKY, but it is amazing what he can do in a lot of aspect that have been revolutionaries in cycling, so I must recognize that and gratefull to show other people how to improve performance without doping.

What "revolutionaires in cycling" has Sky come up with?