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Jeroen Swart said:
TeflonDub said:
thehog said:
TeflonDub said:
Only new thing is how Freeman clammed up in response to DW's attempts to get a comment, DW seemed surprised by that as they go back a ways. Also quotes a former USPS rider who confirms Kenalog is powerful PED, along with Millar experience of the injection which is already out there.
Overall, signs of illness in early 2011 could make a case, but winning 2012 Dauphine and his book talking about his great form going into that year's TdF with no mention of illness makes case for a preventative injection very suspect.
Concludes with a swipe at Team Sky, saying they want to be seen as white have been less so. "What they did was legal but it was not right."
Thanks for that. I sense Walsh is pissed that they've been lying to him during his embedding at Sky. Which leads to the next question, what other BS did they tell Walsh, most likely a lot.
Good on Walsh if the article reads as you suggest.
Yeah, just like Swart, Froome comes out clean, everybody running from Wiggins, and Walsh a bit nose out of joint with Freeman stiff-arming him and all not being what he thought it was at Sky. But I would say he's casting Wiggo off as a lone wolf as most of the team didn't know about the injections. I don't think DW will be happy if he finds out that Team Sky's medical staff enabled Wiggo's TUEs. I think he knows they did and it was Freeman, but I don't think he has fully processed the implications of that. Namely, that they brough in Leinders to brain-rape his intellectual property, but kept his name well clear of any official paperwork.
There's an alternative possibility that Leinders might have joined the Team as a shot at redemption and to simply provide quality medical care (where he did have a lot of experience). He might not have been involved in anything untoward at all and all of this going on now is simply co-incidental.
This is hinted at when you read about how he complained to Peters that seeking a TUE in competition was against the team's internal policy.
Things to think about...
The thing with Leinders is that he didn't strike me as a "crazy" doping doctor, good at designing a program that would get you to peform well while flying under the radar, good at using is connections to put "butter on the head" if need be, but not someone who was going to endanger the safety of his riders short term... Although i seem to remember that the chicken 2007 doping programme was a bit scary (I seem to recall that he used insuline, i might be mistaken, but if not that's one that can be super dangerous if not used with care)
I mean he wasn't a kelme doctor using veterinary medicine, or a Fuentes using a senile helper to tend to his clients blood bags and botching transfusions in the process... So you never know, he might have gone to sky to do "proper" care...
Still, the results speaks for themselves, he was a "bloody good" doping doctor.
Curious that he didn't break omerta if he really wanted to end his career in a ethical way, i mean a lifetime suspension when you have guys like Ibarguren still doing their "job" might be a little frustrating...
And if it ain't him, then who? (Yes i think that there's far more to sky than dubious TUE and cortisone use OOC, but i don't think it will surprise many here)