Isaac Del Toro thread

[Sciatic]

Del Toro vs Seixas vs Ayuso should be an entertaining fight.

A lot to look forward to!

 

[jmdirt]

Shwoogh, calm control. Nice ride IdT.

 

[AlfaLum]

I don’t think that was the point—I assumed the discussion was “which rider does he remind you of” not who was/will be the better rider.

Yeah I am not debating who is the better rider here, makes no sense as Del Toro is just in the early days of his career.

But I just do not understand the comparison, because they have only a relatively small overlap in their skillset, being that they are both good on higher gradients and have superb explosiveness. And maybe you can say that they both have a weakness in the high mountains, but I would argue that is way too early to tell for Del Toro, as he also performed well in >2000 altitude stages in Avenir for example.

But besides that:

- Rodriguez was always on the backfoot in one week races when there was a TT involved and hardly won a GC as a result of it. Del Toro is rather good at TTs and gains time on most competitors already

- Del Toro has already shown he can also power away on shallow gradients and has done it multiple times. Rodriguez really never had that.

- Del Toro is more than capable of pulling a good solo because he is good at pacing himself on the flat. Rodriguez never had that.

 

[Valv.Piti]

Riders don't develop at the same rate.

Like by the same logic I can claim Rodriguez only had 2 years of peak climbing and Del Toro will thus be washed by 2027.

Terrible argument. What he's saying is its completely disingenious, flat out wrong or even just plain dumb to say that Del Toro is terrible at +200 km and then at the same time say Rodirguez excelled at it. It took Purito until late 00's to be a relevant player in these kind of races in his late 20's while Del Toro already top-10 mulitple increidbly hard one day races.

 

[Sciatic]

Yeah I am not debating who is the better rider here, makes no sense as Del Toro is just in the early days of his career.

But I just do not understand the comparison, because they have only a relatively small overlap in their skillset, being that they are both good on higher gradients and have superb explosiveness. And maybe you can say that they both have a weakness in the high mountains, but I would argue that is way too early to tell for Del Toro, as he also performed well in >2000 altitude stages in Avenir for example.

But besides that:

- Rodriguez was always on the backfoot in one week races when there was a TT involved and hardly won a GC as a result of it. Del Toro is rather good at TTs and gains time on most competitors already

- Del Toro has already shown he can also power away on shallow gradients and has done it multiple times. Rodriguez really never had that.

- Del Toro is more than capable of pulling a good solo because he is good at pacing himself on the flat. Rodriguez never had that.

I wasn’t making the comparison—I was just suggesting that it wasn’t serious analysis of rider’s capabilities.