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Logic-is-your-friend

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lol, i swear Evenepoel has to win these races with 10 minutes for certain people to consider he has the potential. Guy finishes 4th in GC merely seconds behind the podium in one of the most brutal stageraces and 'he 's a 1 day racer', should not aim at 'anything more difficult than Liège', and whatnot. I guess all the guys finishing behind him should just retire.

Massive (unexpected) improvement since last month. The plan is to drop a significant amount of weight before La Vuelta, so let's hope he struggles less on the climbs and doesn't have to waste energy as often closing gaps there.
 
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Salvarani said:
We know he is a great rider and capable of days like this.

But he still dropped on the climbs today. It will be harder and longer stages in a GT.
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He could have used a capable teammate. Alaf is many things but he is not a climbing domestique.

i was really impressed by DFM. That’s my main takeaway.
 
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GuntherL1 said:
I don't agree. He climbed very well this week and was only occasionally dropped on extremely steep stretches and they are not frequent in WT races. There's some more work to be done, but he's very close to the top riders. Just look at the names he left behind every day.
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Roglic is the one and everyone is wondering wtf is up with him. Mas crashed again. Evenepoel has shown often enough that he can deal with repeated hills, but when top climbers go full gas on 15 minute climbs Evenepoel gets dropped and that's no bueno.
 
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Logic-is-your-friend said:
lol, i swear Evenepoel has to win these races with 10 minutes for certain people to consider he has the potential. Guy finishes 4th in GC merely seconds behind the podium in one of the most brutal stageraces and 'he 's a 1 day racer', should not aim at 'anything more difficult than Liège', and whatnot. I guess all the guys finishing behind him should just retire.

Massive (unexpected) improvement since last month. The plan is to drop a significant amount of weight before La Vuelta, so let's hope he struggles less on the climbs and doesn't have to waste energy as often closing gaps there.
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Some have this delusion that if you are not the best at climbing the 15+% gradients, you are not a GT contender. There would be triple coronaries if we had a real GT course again with 100+ km of flat TT and finishing climbs averaging between 6 and 7%
 
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Logic-is-your-friend said:
lol, i swear Evenepoel has to win these races with 10 minutes for certain people to consider he has the potential. Guy finishes 4th in GC merely seconds behind the podium in one of the most brutal stageraces and 'he 's a 1 day racer', should not aim at 'anything more difficult than Liège', and whatnot. I guess all the guys finishing behind him should just retire.

Massive (unexpected) improvement since last month. The plan is to drop a significant amount of weight before La Vuelta, so let's hope he struggles less on the climbs and doesn't have to waste energy as often closing gaps there.
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Yeah, he is looking massive. Should be easier on those steep climbs when he drops kgs. Still a respectable performance by him.
 
Logic-is-your-friend

Logic-is-your-friend

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Red Rick said:
Roglic is the one and everyone is wondering wtf is up with him. Mas crashed again. Evenepoel has shown often enough that he can deal with repeated hills, but when top climbers go full gas on 15 minute climbs Evenepoel gets dropped and that's no bueno.
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He gets dropped. Yet on no climb was he dropped for more than 24 seconds and in spite of weak team support and a ridiculously short TT, he loses GC in a brutal stage at 5k from the finish by a mere 21 seconds of which over half were down to boni seconds.
 
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The way some people are talking about Evenepoel's weight right now would have you believe he looks like this...
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Logic-is-your-friend said:
He gets dropped. Yet on no climb was he dropped for more than 24 seconds and in spite of weak team support and a ridiculously short TT, he loses GC in a brutal stage at 5k from the finish by a mere 21 seconds of which over half were down to boni seconds.
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Gets dropped on a 14 minute climb and only makes it back to the front because of crashes in front of him and getting draft from the motor. Until today the steep climbs were softpaced. Today they weren't.

Today shows that Carpegna was an outlier. But it shows that getting dropped in Andalucia was not.
 
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Pretty epic what sprinter Evenepoel showed today and this week. 2kg lighter and he would have had this one in the bag.
 
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Congratulations to Ion Izagirre Insausti for winning stage 6 and Daniel Felipe Martínez for winning overall.

The way Martínez raced at Giro. It was only a matter of time he will achieve something great like this. Fully deserved.

As for Remco Evenepoel. He proved he already is and will be a force to reckon with in the future. With some steady progress he will be able to win races like this and will win some.

As for the race itself. It didn't disappoint. It was a beautiful race as a whole and especially the last stage, queen stage, delivered.

Regarding JV. To bad Vingegaard didn't secure a podium position. Was hoping for Rogla (and Kuss) to save something more in the tank for the last stage. Unfortunately that was not the case. Kuss was nowhere to be seen and Rogla was not his usual self. Did a good job on Krabelin.

P.S. As for some trivia that needs to be said. The spell is broken. Ineos train is back. We the Slovenians held the line as long as we could. LS got to SK. I wished Rogla to break a leg in that other thread. That one's on me.
 
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Red Rick said:
Gets dropped on a 14 minute climb and only makes it back to the front because of crashes in front of him and getting draft from the motor. Until today the steep climbs were softpaced. Today they weren't.

Today shows that Carpegna was an outlier. But it shows that getting dropped in Andalucia was not.
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He didn't do Andalucia, i assume you mean Valencia. And even then i don't agree. That was 1 steep short section where he lost more time than all steep climbs here combined. Most long climbs aren't as steep as they are here either.
 
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If it truly is 5 kilos more, were he to maintain these watts, he should be crushing it when he hits his ideal weight.
 
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Rackham said:
I think Roglic is on a slow program building form for the summer. I know it's a bit unusual for him, but after today I'm more convinced of that than I was yesterday.

He did his work for Jonas & then rode a tempo all the way until the end.
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He won Paris Nice which was his stated performance benchmark. I totally agree with you that he is following a more gradual progression to Tour form and hope it pays off. He's also been very much the helpful teammate to Wout and Jonas. The suggestion that Jonas would be the designated JV leader aren't completely far-fetched but discounting Roglic when he can win is pure emotional analysis.
Remco's hardcore supporters are quick to qualify his rivals' abilities as weakening and then deny the obvious when Remco hits a limit. Remco will be a GT contender but not a winner for a couple of years.
 
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Logic-is-your-friend said:
lol, i swear Evenepoel has to win these races with 10 minutes for certain people to consider he has the potential. Guy finishes 4th in GC merely seconds behind the podium in one of the most brutal stageraces and 'he 's a 1 day racer', should not aim at 'anything more difficult than Liège', and whatnot. I guess all the guys finishing behind him should just retire.

Massive (unexpected) improvement since last month. The plan is to drop a significant amount of weight before La Vuelta, so let's hope he struggles less on the climbs and doesn't have to waste energy as often closing gaps there.
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Well, it's not so much potential at this point but results. Part of winning a race is protecting a lead. Plus, he is his team's marquee stage racer so it's fair to expect him to, you know, win stage races...

All that said, I was just thinking to myself how good Remco looked and thought he had at least second place in the bag when he blew up and lost 30 seconds in about half a km. I wonder what that was all about? He didn't drop any more time, and to his credit, took some back as he kept pushing to the end and just finished off the podium. I think this isn't the first time that's happened. He'll lose a chunk of time, do a re-set and keep fighting.

Really chapeau to him.

And he deserves a teammate who can either be a decoy or a domestique at the end of a stage like today's.
 
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CyclistAbi

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There you have it. Mas injured Rogla and has done it in much more subtle way than Vingegaard would.

On a more serious note. It does look like as some pain was involved. Sad to hear Rogla was struggling in such way during this race.
 
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