Jan Ullrich's latest Facebook update: "Lance, I am coming!"

[Anonymous]

Yep, me too.

And me. "Representing" for tall men everywhere. Or something. Showed that it's not just malnourished munchkins who can climb well.

Although I hated that ridiculous ear ring.

 

[ravens]

Possibly. I got the impression that Ullrich was respectful of all of his opponents. I can't recall any bad mouthing of his opponents coming from Jan. He seemed to be understated and modest for the most part. I personally hated the fat jokes and lack of fitness/dedication to training statements made about Jan, primarily because he rarely responded in anger. I'm a bit biased because I was always rooting for Jan and to this day wish he had fessed up, served his time and came back to the sport. To me he was rather refreshing when compared to Armstrong's constant attention chasing.

Perhaps the 2 paths reveals the benefits of narcissism. Lack of it doomed Jan, but there is no limit to it for he who may not be named, and look at how he benefits.

 

[franciep10]

Possibly. I got the impression that Ullrich was respectful of all of his opponents. I can't recall any bad mouthing of his opponents coming from Jan. He seemed to be understated and modest for the most part. I personally hated the fat jokes and lack of fitness/dedication to training statements made about Jan, primarily because he rarely responded in anger. I'm a bit biased because I was always rooting for Jan and to this day wish he had fessed up, served his time and came back to the sport. To me he was rather refreshing when compared to Armstrong's constant attention chasing.

I have a ton of respect for ullrich, I cheered for him and basso to beat lance. But maybe he lacks that killer instinct like armstrong had.

 

[Angliru]

Perhaps the 2 paths reveals the benefits of narcissism. Lack of it doomed Jan, but there is no limit to it for he who may not be named, and look at how he benefits.

As long as Jan doesn't end up in that list of tragic figures that includes Pantani, Vandenbroucke, Jose Maria Jimenez and others, and is happy with his decision to not return to the sport, then I wouldn't consider his choice as one that "doomed" him. I see the point of your first sentence though.

 

[DAOTEC]

Love to you Jan ..give it all your best ..please come back and Rock with us

Good for Rudy Rock ..

 

[palmerq]

isnt jan like banned for life because op would be his 2nd doping offence... he was banned before wasnt he for amphetimines.. I cant remember now but I´m sure he´ll never be allowed back.

 

[Angliru]

isnt jan like banned for life because op would be his 2nd doping offence... he was banned before wasnt he for amphetimines.. I cant remember now but I´m sure he´ll never be allowed back.

I don't think so. I recall him being rumoured to be joining Rock Racing after Rudy signed up but he denied any interest in coming back to the sport at that time.

 

[Faserr]

Jan is happy with his family. He's happier than these headline-obsessed riders.
He's just human and a normal guy and not that arrogant cool guy you want him to be.
So, show some respect for this great sportsman.

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

^ agreed
long live jan the man

 

[Bala Verde]

I don't think so. I recall him being rumoured to be joining Rock Racing after Rudy signed up but he denied any interest in coming back to the sport at that time.

I thought I read that - if I have the same rumour you are referring to - he would be added to team mgmt/sponsor/pr issues, not as a rider.

 

[Highlander]

I don't think so. I recall him being rumoured to be joining Rock Racing after Rudy signed up but he denied any interest in coming back to the sport at that time.

To the best of my knowledge, Jan wasn't suspended despite being implicated for Puerto. Occasionally stories have gone out about charges against him, but nothing appears to ever have taken place. Of course, his decision to retire may have factored into that.

 

[Hugh Januss]

I thought I read that - if I have the same rumour you are referring to - he would be added to team mgmt/sponsor/pr issues, not as a rider.

Oh crap! I won't see Jan racing the Ontario Crit series?

 

[Ripper]

Perhaps he is simply paying homage to Pharma's old infactuation with him?

Or perhaps he just had some fun

 

[DAOTEC]

or - Just testing the waters ? on popularity before stepping in for which FB is ...

Jan Ulrich stages a comeback for the 2010 le Tour de France Vid.

 

[auscyclefan94]

or - Just testing the waters ? on popularity before stepping in for which FB is ...

Jan Ulrich stages a comeback for the 2010 le Tour de France Vid.

Already had a link on that on this thread...

 

[Steel4Ever]

Jan was a champion who had respect for the man who beat him:

What an awesome Tour de Dope that was!
Dope took the top 3!!!

Is there anything dope CAN'T do?!?

 

[Neworld]

Possibly. I got the impression that Ullrich was respectful of all of his opponents. I can't recall any bad mouthing of his opponents coming from Jan. He seemed to be understated and modest for the most part. I personally hated the fat jokes and lack of fitness/dedication to training statements made about Jan, primarily because he rarely responded in anger. I'm a bit biased because I was always rooting for Jan and to this day wish he had fessed up, served his time and came back to the sport. To me he was rather refreshing when compared to Armstrong's constant attention chasing.

I agree and I'm sure that there will be some criticism to the following but that is what these threads are for... to generate some discussion right?

Personally, I feel that Jan was the complete professional athlete. He rarely complained, made excuses, or belittled his competitors even when they were so far beneath him.

Training: What really astounds me is how people continue to believe Johan and Lance, the verbal webs they spin and the mass media of dysinformation and self-serving lies. Do people really believe that Lance trains more than any other athlete, the Jan was 'always' out of shape, that Jan was a poor tactician. He might have been some of those things but not regularly. Jan actually raced far more than Lance, for longer in each year, and was clearly not out of shape. But Johan et al tried, successfully, to change the optics of what spectators thought. JB and LA are still doing it today with AC.

Doping: The first doping infraction of Jans was 'E'. He served his time and came back. Can someone tell me how E can assist you when cycling? Boonen has been busted twice for Coccaine (clearly a pain killer and accellerant that has been used to prolong and enhance training rides). Autologous blood doping, well I'm sure Jan used it, what top 10 GT rider doesn't?

Teams in the TdF: Jan was mostly on teams that supported a sprinter(EZ) and arguably were never as good and the Postal/Disco teams. JB/LA routinely took riders off Telecom. And, JB/LA made TTTs their focus as they knew that if after the TTT they put a few minutes of time(and bonus time) into Jan all they had to do was tempo ride in the mountains, burn off Jan's weaker teammates and the TdF was over. Watch the movies.

Never Quitting: I think the most enviable attribute of Jans was that he never quit. Remember when Jan crashed through the back of his team car, cutting his neck wide open and bleeding all over the place, the day before the opening prologue on his most recent TdF? That shows his tenacity. He attacked whenever he could and would power up mountain over and over hammering in pain. What cyclist cannot relate to the struggle of cycling and Jan's courage?

That's a start anyway. I would love to see Jan return but frankly he's too smart, and too comfortable with himself to interrupt the next important phase in his life. While another cyclist has yet to figure out what is important. Let the feedback ensue.

Neworld

 

[palmerq]

Never Quitting: I think the most enviable attribute of Jans was that he never quit. Remember when Jan crashed through the back of his team car, cutting his neck wide open and bleeding all over the place, the day before the opening prologue on his most recent TdF? That shows his tenacity. He attacked whenever he could and would power up mountain over and over hammering in pain. What cyclist cannot relate to the struggle of cycling and Jan's courage?

Jan is my hero... and I think he was great for this... even though he kept losing he did keep coming back for more and he was always in pain in every mountain it seemed hats off to him for continuing to fight these losing battles.. He is a very respectable fellow..

Looking at the way he was riding compared to the other guys he was racing I think he might have been doping less than a lot of the guys(except 2003).. Just my suspicion it would be great to know the truth for sure..

I think jan made a better photograph than most riders though.. so well done to him.

Did he not say the only way he would be back at the tour de france would be if his son was riding there. i think he doesnt like pro cycling at all.

 

[El Imbatido]

Teams in the TdF: Jan was mostly on teams that supported a sprinter(EZ) and arguably were never as good and the Postal/Disco teams. JB/LA routinely took riders off Telecom. And, JB/LA made TTTs their focus as they knew that if after the TTT they put a few minutes of time(and bonus time) into Jan all they had to do was tempo ride in the mountains, burn off Jan's weaker teammates and the TdF was over. Watch the movies.

On this point the main one that sticks out for me is Manuel Beltran in 2003. He was signed for Team Coast (who eventually became Team Bianchi) but after they folded he was snapped up by JB and LA to ride tempo up the highest and hardest mountains and unsurprisingly he was able to do that all day and be right up there near the end. Nothing sort of like he was in the last couple of years.

I think if Jan had had just a bit better support that year he would have had a real good chance at beating Armstrong

 

[auscyclefan94]

On this point the main one that sticks out for me is Manuel Beltran in 2003. He was signed for Team Coast (who eventually became Team Bianchi) but after they folded he was snapped up by JB and LA to ride tempo up the highest and hardest mountains and unsurprisingly he was able to do that all day and be right up there near the end. Nothing sort of like he was in the last couple of years.

I think if Jan had had just a bit better support that year he would have had a real good chance at beating Armstrong

Take away the TTT he would of been very close to winning

1 US Postal presented by Berry Floor 1.18.27 (52.77 km/h)
2 O.N.C.E.-Eroski 0.30
3 Team Bianchi 0.43

Also that day to Luz Ardiden he made a stupid attack on the tourmalet when really he could of saved that attack to respond to armstrong's move.

 

[El Imbatido]

Take away the TTT he would of been very close to winning

1 US Postal presented by Berry Floor 1.18.27 (52.77 km/h)
2 O.N.C.E.-Eroski 0.30
3 Team Bianchi 0.43

Also that day to Luz Ardiden he made a stupid attack on the tourmalet when really he could of saved that attack to respond to armstrong's move.

And then there was the crash in the final TT. Not sure how many seconds were lost but it would have been a few......

 

[SirLes]

The crucial day in that tour was when Jan lost 2.13mins on the Alp d'Huez stage. He was ill.

I've got a nice photo of him that he posed for in Paris after the 2004 tour. He had already got into the T mobile minivan but moved seats so I could take a photo. which was pretty nice as I was wearing a US postal shirt at the time!

Also got photos of Ivan Basso, Tyler Hamilton and Oscar Sevillia.

Can anyone spot a link between all those riders!!

Never saw Armstrong funnily enough!

 

[DAOTEC]

The return of another cycling hero

More proof that a reunion with Rudy Rock is imminent

Let's guess Ullrich will return to cycling speedy, that will be the transfer of the year !

18.02.2010 - (sid/rsn) - Jan Ullrich könnte nach der Einstellung des Dopingverfahrens in der Schweiz in den Radsport zurückkehren. "Wenn er nicht bestraft wird, stehen ihm alle Wege offen. Soweit ich weiß, ist kein Verfahren anhängig. Er hätte die Möglichkeit, wieder eine Lizenz zu erwerben", sagte BDR-Vizepräsident Udo Sprenger dem SID.

Der 36-jährige Ullrich, der im Februar 2007 abgetreten war, könnte nach der jüngsten Entscheidung seine Laufbahn rein theoretisch wieder aufnehmen oder aber in anderer Form, beispielsweise als Sportlicher Leiter oder Teamchef, im Radsport tätig werden. Bei einer Verurteilung hätte ihm als Wiederholungstäter eine lebenslange Sperre gedroht. Für eine BDR-Lizenz müsste der in der Schweiz lebende Ullrich aber den Wohnsitz wechseln.
Source: http://www.radsport-news.com/sport/sportnews_61416.htm

What a born loser this UCI guy Carpani.

Cycling LOVES you JAN

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[Anonymous]

More proof that a reunion with Rudy Rock is imminent

Let's guess Ullrich will return to cycling speedy, that will be the transfer of the year !

What on earth are you talking about.. its just a badly worded article on the court case..

Calm down...

and theres really no need to replicate entire articles in german on a predominantly english language forum..

And no, I dont care

 

[luckyboy]

English please?